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breaks and different drugs

off my pickle

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hey guys,
i have recently realised that i may be loosing the magic that X gives. (a dark day for me). :| and am now starting a break of about a 1-1.5 months.
now i am sorry if this has been done b4 but here goes

i am thinking about using the breaktime to experiment with new drugs.
the most probable being 2-cb and ketamine.
can the substitution of other drugs to extacy affect how quickly the majic will return (longer)??
or will i have to show some gumption and not substitute to have the shortest break possible??

cheers.

a dark dark day :| :|
 
the magic ain't coming back pal.

as i've said before, the happy dragon has turned nasty, and his teeth are sharper than ever.

why not take up a sport instead of another drug?
 
i'd say it depends, man...

if you're feeling generally pretty crusty, and that huge e binge every weekend isn't really doing it for you anymore, chances are it'd prolly be better just to have a complete chemical break... try hitting the piss for a couple of months on the weekends then go back to pilling and see how it goes... you might even find you get back into drinking and the long absence you've had from it in favour of biccies just serves as a means of rediscovering the joys of being blotto ... i find i do :)

but if apart from the fact that pills aren't doing it for you anymore u generally feel pretty good, and in control of your shit (see: your life) i'd say... yeah go for it man...

and fuck you for having a 2cb source!! :p
 
Have a read of most of the losing the magic threads. Usually they start with a question like "I'm losing the magic, do I have to have a long break from drugs, or can I just use speed/k/ghb/etc. and stay off pills for awhile?".....

BigTrancer :)
 
keep your chin up and think positively bro.

Like look forward to that next big E night.........how good will it be.........
 
BigTrancer said:
Have a read of most of the losing the magic threads. Usually they start with a question like "I'm losing the magic, do I have to have a long break from drugs, or can I just use speed/k/ghb/etc. and stay off pills for awhile?"



Yeh, and they all end with 'the happy dragon has turned nasty, and this time he's playing for keeps' ;)
 
I just had a two month break. I was planning for 3 but it was still pretty good from the old habbit. Anyway it brang back the magic it was the most amazing and beautiful MDMA experience i've ever had (well it was bloody good anyway)

Now the plans are to only drop every 1-2 months and I don't see that as being a problem.

The other good thing about the breaks you get to choose the best pill thats been around since the last time you dropped. I came back from 2 months to a yellow 3. You just get a pill when you hear great things about it and if something better comes along you trade it in.

What will be my next currently it's a coca cola
 
hey doofhard, thanks for sharing that. needless to say i am dieing of envy.
tommorow night will be my last roll till NYE (hopefully).
yeh i am going to hunt around for the best pills aswell!
my mate is getting MDMA crystals and we are going to make our own caps.
and probobly try grab some threes.
its good to see some positive advice
thanks mate
 
^^^^^
I disagree, if you want to have a big last binge 1 more time before you have a break good on you do it safely.
I did that had 1 last huge night day night and then stopped cold for 2 months.

Whateva way works for you but if your thinking of having a break then it is overdue thats my opinion.
 
Dr. Whatwhat
I thought you were crazy after your Leary Bash.
But you speak the truth.

Off My Pickle,
Hit that Lucy.
Get into those challengin' entheogens.
There's a world to learn.

UnS
 
ok guys. because i dont wanna lose the magic. if i do some speed for a few weeks is that kinda like having a break from e. i know it would be better to go cold turkey. because they dont do the same thing. wouldnt be kinda ok.

sorry im stupid. ;)
 
Using any substance too regulary becomes monotonous. Thats why I try to incorporate as many drugs as possible into my schedule.
 
my experience

I think having a break is a good thing. let me eloborate. I'm nearly 30, and have been into / out of drugs and parties since back in the very early 90's (like 1992 onwards). I have two little sisters (mid 20's) who after my parents broke up, hit drugs very, very hard until a couple of years ago.

I smoked pot once, and hated it - why would you want to slow yourself down? I've loved, used and abused LSD, MDMA, MDEA, Ice, Cocaine, Speed and 2cb. My sisters did all the above and herion - once was enough to turn them off for good (thank goodness!)

For a while there (around 3 years...) until 1997, i was taking maybe 10-14 pills per fortnight (back in day when $50 was the club price, $45 for a 10-pack) and yeah, it fucked me up.

I slowly weened myself off them, taking little breaks of 3-5 weeks, got back into martial arts and then moved to Sydney after roaming the world and Australia (san fran rocks!)

When i moved up here, i met my fiance, and although she was just getting into the scene (had only had two pills ever when i first met her!) we went hard for a while... then... life dawned on us. We'd both just finished uni (i managed, somehow to get straight D's and HD's in uni, she was a credit grade average student) and needed to work, get a house and all that shit.

Anyway, last year (2002) i took a grand total of 23 pills accross the entire year. This year, my total is just 3.5! i'm much better for it, and a much nicer person to boot. My littlest sister went cold turkey back in 2000, and is in her final year of vetinary science, and will be paid to work with a tiger-breeding program in the USA early next year, because of her grades.

I'm invovled in exercise science research, and the funny thing (bit of a side note) is that all three of us did the same basic biochemistry of cells at uni... groovy huh?

anway other sister (older of the two)... who has more expeirence with drugs than the rest of my family put together, is now studying neuropsychology, focusing on chemical causes realted to schiporehina. She spent some time in and out of mental instituations, and although she's been fine for around 3 years now, will allways be agrophobic and have a few other issues as a direct result of her drug experiences.

Having got and lost the magic several times with several different substance, and seen the three most precious people in the world to me (my sisters and my finace) do the same my advice is:

1. Learn to love the real world, real people and real things. Indulge in winery tours through the hunter valley, mountain climbing in Tasmania, sking in remote finland, set financial goals realted to positive expeirences and soak up real life... sports, arts, freinds, wine - have fun.

2. Take a break from drugs whilst working towards these things. Makes the more enjoyable, both real life, and the drugs when you go back too them.

3. Get some non-drug taking buddies (keep life in perspective) for me, that was my youngest sister.

4. Change substances (substitute booze for pills is a good one, just get into wine collecting - lots of fun!!!)

5. When you do go back, be carefull.


I knew the time for me to stop was when i was needing 3-4 GOOD, STRONG pills to get me through a night, rather than 1 or two. Now i get happy of a half, and wrecked off a whole! makes my night cheeper, and heaps fun.

I'd recommend 6 month break from your chosen substance, during which do lots of positive brain and body things, exercise, take up art, take 5-htp once per day, eat organic food and really enjoy life outside of the techno-chem world (what i call it).

Anyway, don't want to sound preachy or anything, i just really related to your post. I'm having shit loads of fun now i've slowed down, and enjoy my less frequent experiences more than the frequent ones put together. Haven't popped since march, but will be this long weekend (can't wait!) so yeah, take a break man, enjoy life and get back into it, if you want too. My fiance hasn't done anything this year, but will in october (her break has been longer than mine)

You don't loose the magic, it just wanders to a different part of your life and waits patiently there for you to find it.

You don't loose the magic, it just wanders to a different part of your life and waits patiently there for you to find it!
 
you need to lay off everything. You may lose you *tolerence* by taking other stuff rather than E. But if your still getting toasted all the time its not going to be an amazing experience next time you roll, you may roll real *hard*, but there'l be no *magic*. You lose the magic for everything, even stuff like soft drink, chocolate etc can have its magic so long as its done in moderation, soon as something is routine you take it for granted and you can forget about any *magic*. Thats why lotsa money doesn't = happyness. When you have none one day then a million dollars the next its an amazing thing, but to be always rich is nothing special, because you don't appreciate the position your in.

!ALL THINGS IN MODERATION!
 
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