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Television Breaking Bad

Tomer is just processing his anxiety for the next season through bitchy posts and illogical statements. If he wasn't in on this thread from the beginning I'd think he's just trolling.

It's obviously Gale who gave him the book....there's not even the slightest bit of uncertainty with that.
 
Max Power said:
But Gretchen's last name is Schwartz.

and please don't say it's German for black. Who is reaching then?
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I was referencing the point she made that he gave it to Walt off screen.

I should clarify: I'm in the minority on this. There is a really good chance that it did come from Gale. I'm just going out on a limb and saying its not.

Coffee: What illogical statements am I making? I'm sorry, correct me if I'm wrong, but is every loose end tied up in the series? Hasn't Walt become 'King'? I don't understand why people need every series that they watch to be wrapped up nice and tidy? Those same people bitched and moaned when they weren't sure if Tony Soprano was dead or not.
 
Coffee: I think you are missing my main point. Do you understand how much of an emphasis people put on a Series Finale? If it works, the entire series is validated. If it fails, the entire series goes up in smoke. That's my point. My impending fear is the show has reached the point of no return and has dragged on for too long. I hope I'm wrong. But, I won't say I told you so, if the finale turns out to be a dud and the masses come crying that the show was ultimately a disaster. It happens to the majority of series that last a few years.
 
My impending fear is the show has reached the point of no return and has dragged on for too long. I hope I'm wrong.
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I don't agree, I cant wait for more no matter how they play it out.
 
Saying it came from Gretchen Schwartz when there's clearly "G.B." written in the book is all I meant. Also, you must remember the conversion between Gale and Walt talking about Walt Whitman? The series has pretty unambiguously connected Walt Whitman with the relationship between Gale and Walt. Simply giving him a book one day isn't much of an interaction, but I can see your point of why wouldn't it be shown, but there was a few things throughout the series that wasn't shown such as how Brock exactly got poisoned.
 
i'll still be happy, i doubt it will be a disaster...


Anyway what happened to that spider todd kept? Did i miss something?
 
Tomer said:
Of course you can't. And then what happens if the Finale turns out to be a disaster in your eyes? Then what?
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If that happens then I am prepared to send you a nice bag of the blue meth.
If the finale makes this show "validated", then you send me one.

Deal?
 
shreddedlettuce said:
If that happens then I am prepared to send you a nice bag of the blue meth.
If the finale makes this show "validated", then you send me one.

Deal?
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Haha, I'll take some blue meth. But, in all seriousness, I don't need the finale to validate anything for me. I am already content enough as is. I don't need to see any more of it.
 
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CoffeeDrinker said:
Saying it came from Gretchen Schwartz when there's clearly "G.B." written in the book is all I meant. Also, you must remember the conversion between Gale and Walt talking about Walt Whitman? The series has pretty unambiguously connected Walt Whitman with the relationship between Gale and Walt. Simply giving him a book one day isn't much of an interaction, but I can see your point of why wouldn't it be shown, but there was a few things throughout the series that wasn't shown such as how Brock exactly got poisoned.
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Right, which is why I can believe that he acquired the book from Gale, obviously, but it wasn't necessarily detailed on screen. I'll have to double check though, I finally re-joined Netflix so I can re-watch everything before the finale goes down.

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I have a feeling Walt really is all the way out. For now, at least. I imagine getting out of his contract with those guys wasn't too difficult (they were just some Arizona distributors, not cartel), once the main guy (Declan, i believe?) knew who he was ("Say my name"), he quit being aggressive with him and backed down.
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You're right it definitely wasn't the cartel, I just couldn't think of how to describe these new distributors.
 
I cant wait to see the next (final?) 8 episodes.

Tomer: you gotta be kidding you wanted the series to end up this way. What about the scene in the beginning of the first episode of Season 5?? (where Walt buys an M60 and appears without a wedding ring). You wanna leave that behind?
 
Dre1990 said:
I cant wait to see the next (final?) 8 episodes.

Tomer: you gotta be kidding you wanted the series to end up this way. What about the scene in the beginning of the first episode of Season 5?? (where Walt buys an M60 and appears without a wedding ring). You wanna leave that behind?
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This is obviously a losing argument for me because I'm in the minority (as in I'm the only one who feels this way) but yes I could sacrifice that scene and be content with the show ending with last weeks episode. Color me crazy.
 
This is obviously a losing argument for me because I'm in the minority (as in I'm the only one who feels this way)
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I'm with you, Tomer. This show was on thin ice with me from the beginning of Season 5 as it was. Season 4 was ludicrous - it felt more like Dexter or some other such wildly improbable shit. I'm fully prepared to watch more, but the ridiculous lag between now and the next half is a real buzzkill. Also, if it took Gilligan eight episodes just to get us to the actual narrative crux of the season, how will he pull the whole climactic confrontation off in the same number? Honestly, the whole thing feels contrived ($$$), bittersweet, and mildly disappointing, despite the show's consistently high quality. I guess it's just become far too obvious that what we're watching is yet another hackneyed TV drama, written around advertisements, promotions, shameless product placement, etc., as opposed to an artistically 'pure,' genuinely captivating lure for such things. In other words, the blinders are off, the light is harsh, and I no longer possess the enthusiasm necessary to maintain my tenuous suspension of disbelief.
 
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I'm with you, Tomer. This show was on thin ice with me from the beginning of Season 5 as it was. Season 4 was ludicrous - it felt more like Dexter or some other such wildly improbable shit. I'm fully prepared to watch more, but the ridiculous lag between now and the next half is a real buzzkill. Also, if it took Gilligan eight episodes just to get us to the actual narrative crux of the season, how will he pull the whole climactic confrontation off in the same number? Honestly, the whole thing feels contrived ($$$), bittersweet, and mildly disappointing, despite the show's consistently high quality. I guess it's just become far too obvious that what we're watching is yet another hackneyed TV drama, written around advertisements, promotions, shameless product placement, etc., as opposed to an artistically 'pure,' genuinely captivating lure for such things. In other words, the blinders are off, the light is harsh, and I no longer possess the enthusiasm necessary to maintain my tenuous suspension of disbelief.
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Its as if I was on an island and I never thought I would see another living soul.

I agree completely with everything you said. Season 4 was ludicrous - especially the whole Terminator-esque demolition of Gus where half of his face is falling off. The show became a parody at that point.

But, you know why I still gave it rope? Because Bryan Cranston is so brilliant and Giancarno (sp?) Gus was such a brilliant role player, that I can never overlook a series completely. But, yes, season 4 began the downward spiral. But this happens to all series, no? You can't promote artistic purity without caving eventually. It's the same reason I thought Dexter was brilliant for, oh, I don't know, one season? Michael C. Hall is an unbelievable actor.

Brilliant acting captivates me. As were in agreement, the writing was up to snub, as well - So everything was in full force. But, the acting can no longer save this series and I truly no longer care for it. After season 4, my excitement waned, and I could have cared less about season 5. At the end of season 4, when Walt declares over the phone, "I won". That would have been a fine ending for me, as well.

Cheers

Tomer
 
just started watching but haven't seen all the episodes. missed a lot but am on season 3.

need to watch from the beginning asapppp
 
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