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Yes, it was from Gale and 'W.W.' is the same as Hank found in Gale's writings in his apartment. Hank asked Walt what he thought W.W. could stand for and Hank suggested 'Walter White' as a joke but now knows he was right.
 
I felt like this episode was a little rushed. Suddenly Walt is now supplying Europe? His whole "empire" seemed to be created in one episode.

The interesting parts for me were Hank reminiscing about his college job, the gun in Jesse's bag of money (Which Walt must have placed in there), and the result of Walt's latest CAT scan. Is the cancer back? Maybe that's why Walt got out of the biz so suddenly and willingly. Also I have to wonder why Walt would hold on to that copy of Gale's Leaves of Grass, it's such an obvious piece of incriminating evidence. Did he want Hank to find it? Walt was so emotionally distant in this episode it's difficult to discern his true intentions.
 
Lots of random thoughts:

I agree, it seems like an obvious, uncharacteristic oversight that Walt kept Leaves of Grass, who knows what Walt was thinking...

The last time Walt got a CAT scan he found out he was in remission and punched the towel dispenser. This time he did nothing. I think the cancer is back.

Did anybody notice the Tarantino homage? The shot from the trunk up to Walt & Todd.

There's a theory that the series may end or at least make references in the ending to Reservoir Dogs due Gilligan's consistent Tarantino references, the connections to the colors & the fact that these are the last 3 men standing:
- Mr. Pink = Pinkman - gets away at least temporarily with the loot
- Mr. White = uh, Mr. White as the take-charge brain of the operation and the one who keeps his cool
- Mr. Orange = Hank: the cop, he wears orange a lot & mentioned the orange spray can marking trees this episode

Another Godfather homage as well - all the killings and Walt being completely removed and simply watching his pool. It's like the baptism scene or, maybe more appropriately, after the 3 deaths in II when the next time we see Pacino (other than the flashback) he is sitting in front of Lake Tahoe in contemplation.

Pre-natal vitamins (I know she said it's for her hair but whatever)? Trying to get the kids out of the house? Is Marie trying to get pregnant?

p.s. Is it just me or did the Marie actress get a shit ton of botox?
 
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We should have been able to figure out Gale would factor into this episode. It was titled 'Gliding Over All', the same as a Walt Whitman poem:

Gliding o'er all, through all,
Through Nature, Time, and Space,
As a ship on the waters advancing,
The voyage of the soul--not life alone,
Death, many deaths I'll sing.
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I felt like this episode was a little rushed. Suddenly Walt is now supplying Europe? His whole "empire" seemed to be created in one episode.
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Well, I mean, there was a montage covering ~3 months.

Also I have to wonder why Walt would hold on to that copy of Gale's Leaves of Grass, it's such an obvious piece of incriminating evidence.
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I'm not so sure about this. The only two people of significance in Walter's life to whom the poetry collection would/could mean anything in particular are Gale (dead) and Hank. Although I will confess that, upon reflection, I found the, "Whoops! Left it in the bathroom with the magazines," schtick sort of hammy. Why couldn't Gilligan have had Hank looking for something in the kitchen and stumbling across it there (discreetly hidden near the glassware, perhaps?).
 
P A said:
Well, I mean, there was a montage covering ~3 months.



I'm not so sure about this. The only two people of significance in Walter's life to whom the poetry collection would/could mean anything in particular are Gale (dead) and Hank. Although I will confess that, upon reflection, I found the, "Whoops! Left it in the bathroom with the magazines," schtick sort of hammy. Why couldn't Gilligan have had Hank looking for something in the kitchen and stumbling across it there (discreetly hidden near the glassware, perhaps?).
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This king was reading a book one of his former loyal subjects gave him on his throne. It's the place a man feels most secure, so it'd make sense a bit of evidence of a murder is left over there leading to his whole empire's collapse. Though I wonder if Walt tries denying knowing Boetticher know, or what. Also I wonder what Walt does with that massive pile of cash. Obviously he ends up on the run with another name.
 
AmorRoark said:
We should have been able to figure out Gale would factor into this episode. It was titled 'Gliding Over All', the same as a Walt Whitman poem:
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Actually, I did figure it out. I just refrain from posting anything serious in this thread. Maybe I should start, there's a ton of things that have come to mind that I've never posted.
 
Did anyone else think before Jesse opened the bag of money that he was going to see Mike cut up into pieces?

I was wondering if Walt was always a sociopath or just became a harden criminal from his recent experiences. The fact that he keep Gale's book might mean he still has some empathy for others, or it could be some kind of sick trophy. Funny thing was at first I expected Jesse to be the crazy psychopathic criminal, yet he feels guilt. Walt does not.

Those Madrigal people don't seem like harden gangsters who would intimidate a Mexican drug cartel. More like white-collar criminals who just wanted in on the action. I mean that one guy just offed himself when it was apparent that he'd go to prison. Or was it out of fear of what the others at the company would do to him. Is there another dark side of these executives?

I don't think Hank will go after Walt right away. Think he'll take his time. But when he does try to get Walt, I can only think of a few ways out.
1.He comes up with a real or fake friend with the same initials
2.He blackmails Hank since he paid his medical bills with drug money
3.He kills Hank
4.He says that he knew him, but didn't know he was a meth chemist. He didn't tell Hank because they were lovers, which is why Walt's marriage is in trouble. Gail was kind of effeminate, but I don't think this is likely.
5.The people at Madrigal use their influence to make Hank's superiors call off the case.
6.Walt goes on the run

I noticed that when Lydia talked about Gus's death she had a tear in her eye. The writer's were considering making Gus gay and his close friend his lover. Could she have had a very close relationship with Gus, maybe even in love?

One problem Walter has is he doesn't have reliable soldiers. He killed Mike, who was kind of pissed he killed his boss but knew the streets more. Jesse and his friends want out of the game;Combo was probably the most gangster of them but got killed. His wife doesn't like Walt's job. His son is disabled and he doesn't want him to know about anything. His brother-in law is a cop. AFAIK he has no contact with his extended family.

That leaves those Arizonians(possibly), Madrigal, Todd's crew and Aryan Brotherhood connects, Saul, and Lydia. All would fuck him over, even Saul.

I don't know why Walt trusts Todd enough to make him a partner. He seemed like a nice stand up guy at first, till he killed that kid. If he'd kill a kid just because of the remote possibility the kid would know what they were up to and snitch, what would stop him from fucking Walt over once he learns Walt's trick of the trade. Perhaps Todd is just a pawn in a plan of Walt's.

I have a feeling that Walt and Lydia will fuck, even if she'd probably fuck him over. Walt probably ain't getting none from his wife. I was hoping that he'd fuck that principle, but she was like fuck no. Maybe Walt's not a sociopath, he just needs some ass:D.
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I took it that phenylacetic acid was being used as a precursor for P2P and that this was then being employed in a standard methylamine/Grignard synthesis.
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P2P is not used in a Grignard, benzyl chloride is. The Grignard is also the way PCP is made. P2P is used in reductive amination. But back when P2P was banned some cooks tried to use the Grignard because it's totally OTC. Someone by the pseudonym Chewbacca Darth released an underground recipe for the Grignard method. AFAIK no lab succeeded in making any meth, and I think it actually made something really toxic that killed some people. Either he/she got it wrong, it was intentional misinformation from the government or him/herself, or the paper and patent it was based on was full of shit or left out crucial details.

Am I the only one who likes Walt more as he drifts more towards the darkside? I think he's a fucking OG! Maybe I'm just too anti-social and ODD to hate him:\.
 
Todd is deff gunna fuck over walt now that he knows the chemical make up of his product. Hes got the connects to make it most of it possible.
 
^Todd is a pawn, he can't do anything to Walt. Even if he does try to steal the recipe Walt will have no problem taking care of that dolt.

I am interested in the Spider to the Fly bit of poetic drama going on here. I finally connected those two images with last night's episode. It seems obvious now though, Walt is weaving this huge web, but his nemeses are still buzzing around. He's also the prey of a larger spider now that Hank's seen the light.
 
I personally just the the fly is a callback to The Fly episode where he painfully tried to kill the fly. He didn't even try this time. He doesn't care anymore, really. It isn't fun. He wants to be out.
 
AmorRoark said:
I personally just the the fly is a callback to The Fly episode where he painfully tried to kill the fly. He didn't even try this time. He doesn't care anymore, really. It isn't fun. He wants to be out.
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If your theory about Walt's cancer being back holds true, then the Fly is a call back to that episode in order to remind us of Walt's dialogue, particularly the quote about how he feels that he has "lived too long." When the cancer comes back at the end (I too subscribe to this theory), Walt is once again content, and he no longer feels the need to "build his empire." He's happy that he doesn't have to live with what his life has become anymore, and now that his family is beyond secure financially he is ready to live out his last couple months with them.
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
^Todd is a pawn, he can't do anything to Walt. Even if he does try to steal the recipe Walt will have no problem taking care of that dolt.

I am interested in the Spider to the Fly bit of poetic drama going on here. I finally connected those two images with last night's episode. It seems obvious now though, Walt is weaving this huge web, but his nemeses are still buzzing around. He's also the prey of a larger spider now that Hank's seen the light.
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i never said walt wouldnt kill em though, lol. But honestly i feel like thats a strong possibility. Todd just doesnt seem right to me for some reason.

Any one know where i could watch the fourth season for free?
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
I am interested in the Spider to the Fly bit of poetic drama going on here. I finally connected those two images with last night's episode. It seems obvious now though, Walt is weaving this huge web, but his nemeses are still buzzing around. He's also the prey of a larger spider now that Hank's seen the light.
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Um, that spider doesn't make webs. I really don't think there's ANY connection. The Fly was a callback, that's it.
 
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Did anyone else think before Jesse opened the bag of money that he was going to see Mike cut up into pieces?
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I actually thought it was going to be Todd like that since Walt knew Jesse hated Todd, and since he no longer had use for him since he was "out."
 
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