Bluelight, Quicksilver, et al in the news (related to front page WashPost article)

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SAN DIEGO -- Quiksilver was dead. Word raced through the Internet chat room within hours after his mother found him in the bedroom where his clock radio played on, summoning him for the day he would never see.

Out in the Internet ether, Quiksilver was a guru, a master at mixing the drugs he bought online, a deft chronicler of his own trips.

At home in La Mesa, Calif., Ryan T. Haight had been a teenager smitten with Quiksilver sports clothes, baseball cards and downloading music. He was an honor student, a tennis player, a clerk at a discount store and just barely 18.

After Ryan died on Feb. 12, 2001, his parents found a bottle of the painkiller Vicodin in his room with a label from an out-of-state pharmacy. They called federal drug agents.

The agents resurrected Ryan's double life from the family computer: The teenager ordering addictive drugs online and paying with a debit card his parents gave him to buy baseball cards on eBay.

"Ryan ran and got the mail every day -- and I'm thinking he's all excited getting his baseball cards," said his mother, Francine Haight. "He was getting drugs mailed right to the house. It was so easy."

Without a physical exam or his parents' consent, Ryan had obtained controlled substances. Some came from overseas. Others arrived from an Internet site in Oklahoma. Ryan's slide into drugs took only a few months before it ended in an overdose on a cocktail of painkillers, including hydrocodone (generic Vicodin), an autopsy revealed. He had become a regular on bluelight.ru -- a foreign bulletin board where users share recipes for heady mixes of prescription drugs. Ryan's mother, a nurse, and his father, Bruce Haight, an eye surgeon, knew the dangers of prescription drugs. But "the idea you can buy these on an Internet site and that someone in the medical profession would send them to you without ever seeing you is beyond imagining, beyond horrible," his father said. "How could doctors sell out like that?"

Since Ryan's death, "I've gone on to some of these sites, and once you do that and they have your address, your [Internet] mailbox is full with offers," his mother said.

Ryan's parents thought they had taken precautions. They had insisted that the family computer stay in the den. They did not know Ryan was sneaking from his bed at 1 a.m., ordering drugs and getting high. The clink of ice falling into a glass from the refrigerator door sometimes woke his mother. She thought he simply shared her restlessness. When he slept until noon, "it was like any teenager," his father said. "We weren't lucky enough to get a warning sign, like a trip to the emergency room."

When his parents separated in late 2000, they shared weekends with him.

On the weekend he died, Ryan worked on a cold, rainy Sunday. His mother made him chicken soup in a crockpot. When she talked with him, around midnight, he was listening to music. He hugged her goodnight.

On Monday, the 12th, he slept in. It was not a school day. His mother went out to do errands.

When she returned home about 3 p.m., she saw Ryan's car in the driveway. She had a bad feeling. She went to his room, heard his radio, opened the door and found him. Her attempt at CPR was useless. He had been dead since 2 a.m.

His parents filed a wrongful-death lawsuit against the Oklahoma Web site Main Street Pharmacy. The site's owner, Clayton Fuchs, denies the family's claims, saying they "failed to exercise ordinary care."

Online, Ryan's death was met with disbelief. "I considered Ryan to be the most experienced and wise person I know when it came to drugs . . . I was so incredibly shocked," wrote ZeroHawk. And from beyond the grave came Ryan's own account of one of his last trips, sent in an e-mail started at 10:28 p.m. on Feb. 10, 2001. He had taken drugs he had received "in the mail that day," grabbed a Sprite and ice and wrote of "the little whirlpools of color moving all over. Not TOO much to handle. They were PERFECT."

NOTE:
Sorry mods, I wasn't sure exactly how to prepare this thread and I didn't want to post each and every article. I am, however going to post the entire link that mentions Bluelight and Quicksilver since I think most people will be interested in that.

Please edit, delete or reformat this as most appropriate, but I thought these articles, especially this one was deserving of attention.

This first link is to the series page regarding internet pharmcies. A series of 5 I believe and they are on article 3 as of Tues, Oct 21.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/health/specials/pharmaceuticals/

This next link is the one that makes specific mention of Bluelight, though it's focus is on the death of one Bluelighter who OD'd a few years back, Quicksilver. Some of you may remember him, I only know him by name of references and quotes of his.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55701-2003Oct20.html


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Experimentation Turns Deadly for One Teenager


By Mary Pat Flaherty and Gilbert M. Gaul
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, October 21, 2003; Page A15
 
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i feel terrible for pointing this out, as it really seems as though I am making light of the situation, but WHY does this ALWAYS happen when someone's child dies from drugs:

His parents filed a wrongful-death lawsuit against the Oklahoma Web site Main Street Pharmacy. The site's owner, Clayton Fuchs, denies the family's claims, saying they "failed to exercise ordinary care."

I have to agree with Mr. Fuchs on this one. If I were to sell a gallon of kerosene to an 18 year old young man, and he drinks it and dies, I would laugh my ass off at parents trying to sue me. Granted, this is not the exact situation here, but the parents have no right to sue his company.

Alas this was a terrible loss, and NOT something I think bluelight.ru should be seen in the news for.
 
have to agree with Mr. Fuchs on this one. If I were to sell a gallon of kerosene to an 18 year old young man, and he drinks it and dies, I would laugh my ass off at parents trying to sue me. Granted, this is not the exact situation here, but the parents have no right to sue his company.

And I have to agree with you. Not only did Fuchs not feed Quicksilver the pills, but on every single pharm site I've ever seen before you must, before your order is proccessed, check a box which states, 'I will not abuse this medication.' By checking that, and than abusing it, you absolve the issuer from resposibility.

Not only that but you must usually fill out forms describing your medical problems or talk to a doc on the phone to get the script. If a person lies about their problem the issuing body will likely be cleared of any responsibilty for the death.

Truly, truly tragic, but it's a shame noone ever remembers the person who made the decision to use the drugs in the first place. It's always a game to pass the blame.

My thoughts go out to Quicksilver and his family.
 
What the fuck is wrong with people DO NOT mix prescription drugs or any drugs for that matter as its just not safe unless what you are mixing is tried and true even then extreme caution should be used. Quicksilver my heart goes out to you and i hope your last trip(i don't mean a drug trip i'm talking about death) in this world was a pleasant one as that is all one can ask for in this life.
 
^^^ such a limiting comment about what bluelight does and what it is really here for (not to mention what it condones), but we can't deny the truth in this statement

however, the attitude of blame or relation (both?) that they imply is simply ridiculous - as if bluelight had something to do with the death
 
:( About a week before his death, Quiksilver made a post with the title of 'narcombos' or something to the effect.

Sometimes I'll see a Quiksilver hoodie and think about him. Sometimes I wonder how many other lesser-known BLers may have died and it never made it to the boards. I can name a dozen people that use to frequent OD who just seemed to disappear.
 
MattPD said:
And I have to agree with you. Not only did Fuchs not feed Quicksilver the pills, but on every single pharm site I've ever seen before you must, before your order is proccessed, check a box which states, 'I will not abuse this medication.' By checking that, and than abusing it, you absolve the issuer from resposibility.

Of course I agree, as anyone with common sense, that its ridiculous to make these people victims of anything except their own poor judgement. I do not understand why this surprises anyone; you can smoke cigarettes all day long til you get emphysema, then sue Phillip Morris for not making the "this will kill you" label more prominent...
 
Ketamike said:
:( About a week before his death, Quiksilver made a post with the title of 'narcombos' or something to the effect.

Sometimes I'll see a Quiksilver hoodie and think about him. Sometimes I wonder how many other lesser-known BLers may have died and it never made it to the boards. I can name a dozen people that use to frequent OD who just seemed to disappear.

i agree wholeheartedly... quicksilver clothing arent really popular out here, so when i see something, the association is always there :( though i didnt know him well, and only spoke to him a handfull of times, he is still a very sad and tragic memory to me.
 
Thanks Ketamike...hearing that he is remembered makes me smile.
I see him in all things beautiful....because his unconditional love for me was truly amazing. He has made me who i am today.
I came on this site to post word of the article....My post is in the other drugs forum.

Natalie- Quicksilver's sis
 
Ketamike said:
:( About a week before his death, Quiksilver made a post with the title of 'narcombos' or something to the effect.

Sometimes I'll see a Quiksilver hoodie and think about him. Sometimes I wonder how many other lesser-known BLers may have died and it never made it to the boards. I can name a dozen people that use to frequent OD who just seemed to disappear.

Yeah I think about that too, I bet we loose a lot more people than we realize.
 
Yes, there was Josh (SpeedLimit55) and most recently Dan (sputnic) ... I honestly question the posts and replies I make, as without saying too much, I know that had I not replied to an email or a PM, someone would be alive ...

Of course, I wont be leaving... you live on the edge, you might just slip over..
 
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