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Blue Lily (Lotus) flower tea, very pleasant and recommended

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DoseYouAll

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I became interested in the blue lotus flowers after learning how important they were in egyptian culture. They were pretty revered plants and used widely then and also in other cultures. Ordered two ounces of dried flowers from ethnobotanicals and received the order within two days.

The tea made from approximately 2-3 grams of dried flowers steeped in a tea ball for 10 minutes resulted in something similar to green tea, but with more body. It is not bad to drink and brings an instant head change. Soon afterwards a slight giddiness occurs, and drinking the tea while smoking cannabis synergizes with the cannabis very well to produce a more pronounced, but smoother effect.

I would compare the effects of a strong cup of tea to something like a valium. . . With a sensual twist, an erotic feeling that I feel would definitely qualify this flower as a moderately strong aphrodisiac. This seems just as pronounced as the physical sensations and it is very nice.


Very relaxing and smooth and pleasant. I could drink this cup after cup for a while, as the ancients did because it is something very nice for sure. Not too expensive @ 13 dollars per ounce.


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Glad to hear a report on this, I haven't tried it yet and was interested. I've heard it's also good left to sit in wine, then drinking the wine... aparently it's rather synergistic (sp?) with alcohol.
 
Hey!
I watched 4 of the Sacred Weeds Docos that investigated different old and obscure (possibly) psychoactive substances. In the Doco the blue water lily was investigated supposedly for the 1st time in thousands of years. It was very interesting and supposedly the most highly regarded plant in their writings. Supposedly the body of Tutankhamen was covered in blue water lily flowers.

Anyway I am babbling...

In terms of effects do you think the blue water lily has any elements of the magic that MDMA does? ...or would it be more similar to alcohol, GHB, valium, or amphetamine in terms of a mood/social enhancer.
 
Blue lotus works for sure.

It synergizes with cannabis extremely well. You can even smoke the flowers, and they're not at all unpleasant if you smoke them through a bong. Aporphine is apparently dopaminergic. I'm pretty sure the effects aren't placebo. It's a pretty subtle effect though, so a lot of people don't really get much off of it.
 
It's asthetic properties are top-notch. There is a natural foods store nearby that sells closed lotus flowers for use in baths. They open once they touch the water. :)
 
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Lotus flowers are super beautiful. They're some of nature's very best work.

There's a bit of confusion over lotus and blue water lily. Often what gets called blue lotus is actually blue water lily (nymphaea caerulia) and is most commonly the stuff sold as blue lotus. The true lotuses are nelumbo species. Nelumbo nucifera is supposed to have a similar alkaloid content as nymphaea caerulia, oddly. The two are indeed related, just not super, super closely. But a blue water lily is not a lotus. All lotuses are pink.

True lotus petals, when dried are either pink, or sometimes colourless as they tend to fade, and rather thick, where blue water lily petals are thin and blue.
 
I'm talking about the pink ones. The untouched stamens are excellent when smoked, too. Better than any petal extract I have tried.
 
I always found that with the nymphaeas, the (apparently) most active part was the chunky flower part below the petals, rather than the petals themselves. Kind of makes sense as a thin flower petal is only so much tissue. It can't be too chemically rich, I would imagine.
 
Nibiru said:
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Lotus flowers are super beautiful. They're some of nature's very best work.

There's a bit of confusion over lotus and blue water lily. Often what gets called blue lotus is actually blue water lily (nymphaea caerulia) and is most commonly the stuff sold as blue lotus. The true lotuses are nelumbo species. Nelumbo nucifera is supposed to have a similar alkaloid content as nymphaea caerulia, oddly. The two are indeed related, just not super, super closely. But a blue water lily is not a lotus. All lotuses are pink.

True lotus petals, when dried are either pink, or sometimes colourless as they tend to fade, and rather thick, where blue water lily petals are thin and blue.
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sorry if im being stupid... are you saying that nymphaea caerulia is not the right kind? the websites ive seen selling this stuff has labeled blue lotus as nymphaea caerulia, are they wrong about this? so should i be looking for nelumbo nucifera? thanks.
 
Uh, this is in no way shape or form like MDMA. I've been told that documentary was mostly full of crap.

Anyways, I've been doing some reading as I plan on picking up some lotus tommorow (not sure what kind they have), and it seems that blue lotus may contain no psychoactive properties (but does contain the active ingredient in viagra!). This seems debated, but it makes me a little skeptical whether your experience was placebo or (especially since you...you know...were using other drugs at the time). Hopefully I'm wrong, but hopefully they have the pink (sacred) lotus tommorow.
 
^ What?!? Whoever told you lotus has viagra in it? Damn misinformation.

It does not contain the active ingredient in viagra. Sildenafil is a synthetic drug, and I do not beleive the chemical is naturally occurring.

I myself enjoy lotus for its relaxing qualities and it combines well with just about everything.

I've also used lotus by itself smoked and as a tea, and it is not placebo.
 
Hmm, I had a legal high pill with poppy seed extract (!!), blue lotus and some other stuff....um...can't remember, but I certainly felt goofy and rather talkative, but also sort of scattered and confused.
 
I was really disappointed with Blue Lotus, I was really looking forward to trying this as I'd seen a documentary about it where the two subjects testing it certainly felt something (that was with fresh flowers) I ordered 100 grams of dried Blue Lily it looked like really good stuff & there were plenty of stamens which apparently includes more of the active ingredients than the petals.

I soaked 30 grams in some Rose wine for 3 weeks (shaking everyday) I drank about three quarters of the bottle & never felt anything apart from the alcohol, I didn't grind the Blue Lilly up though, so I'm not sure if that would have made much difference (I doubt it), but I'm guessing the stuff I bought may have been lying about for sometime as it probably isn't too popular on the site I bought it from, it was cheap at only £19 but as I said as much as I wanted it to work there was nothing.

Tried it twice now more recently with another more aged bottle & nothing again. Will be trying once more I guess since I have another bottle of wine with 25 grams that has been lying there for a couple of months. Though I did try vaporizing some Blue Lily & certainly felt something at the time & then a real nice feeling an hour or two after which I can't really explain & can't understand how this could be from smoking an hour before strange, with the remaining I will just vaporize & try a higher dose.

Here is the documentary if anyone's interested http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rh8fId33xA
 
Ok so I read everyones opinions. But I have a few questions to ask if you dont mind me askin at all. To an in-expierence person like me when it comes to stuff like this 1st question: about how much do you need for an effect??2nd: and is it illegal in the u.s.a?? Im thinkin about gettin some so I can try it both ways(tea and smoking). 3rd: which one would you recommend best and where could you get the tea balls at?? and last but not least do you have to grind the petals before the tea ball or whole dip them??
 
Many years ago I tried seeping the Nymphaea Caerulia - dried blue flowers - in some wine, shaking a few times a day. I cannot remember how much of the dried flowers.

I slept like a baby. A bit of a bitter taste, but mixed with a sweet (cheap) red wine, as not too bad. When I woke up many hours later however, I felt a strong feeling that was akin to MDMA, much shorter lasting but highly euphoric and not at all speedy. Breathing air was an absolute delight, and movement felt very fluid. Definitely not a placebo, but interesting that the effects came on after the sleep.

Will certainly have to try again.
 
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Many years ago I tried seeping the Nymphaea Caerulia - dried blue flowers - in some wine, shaking a few times a day. I cannot remember how much of the dried flowers.

I slept like a baby. A bit of a bitter taste, but mixed with a sweet (cheap) red wine, as not too bad. When I woke up many hours later however, I felt a strong feeling that was akin to MDMA, much shorter lasting but highly euphoric and not at all speedy. Breathing air was an absolute delight, and movement felt very fluid. Definitely not a placebo, but interesting that the effects came on after the sleep.

Will certainly have to try again.
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in other words alcohol dulled it and once metabolised, the effects you wanted came on
 
pofacedhoe said:
in other words alcohol dulled it and once metabolised, the effects you wanted came on
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The vague consensus is that alcohol synergises with it. I did find it odd though that I only felt the effects after sleeping, and that probably would have been a good six - eight hours.

I did try what was left in the bottle - a bit under half left - a few days later, and noticed the effects coming on rather quickly (albeit not so strong) and lasting for only a much shorter time.

So no, I don't think that alcohol dulls it. I'm quite confused by this, as I've had two distinctly different experiences with only a few days difference between the two.

And as I said before, the effects were certainly not a placebo. I had never felt anything at all like that in my life. From what I have read (and experienced the second time) it doesn't seem to last long enough for me to have felt the effects in the morning in the first place. Very odd.

So, my confusion and inability to even consider any possible reasoning behind both of these experiences makes me extremely interested. I'll have to experiment more.
 
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