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blue dmt hcl?

It means you have ended up with impurities in your product. Probably due to using unsafe solvents in the extraction.
 
That is not normal. Usually the extract is yellowish if impure.

Could you quickly outline the procedure you used?
 
Yes, please, tell us how you did this.

Blue, to me, would indicate an abnormal impurity, something not normally found in the extraction.
 
Before you edited you included the plants you used. One was p. viridis and the other was one far less common. Must extracts are made from mimosa hostilis. The blueness may come from impurities in the plants. Perhaps it would be more widely reported if those plants were used to make smokable extracts.

Also, before editing you said you acidified to make it DMT HCl. I believe DMT HCl is a yellow oil at room temperature so unless your blue extract is really oily you either didn't get DMT or there's a lot of plant matter in your extract soaking it up.

I recommend using m. hostilis and extracting the freebase in the future.
 
Might I add that some compounds that are normally more reddish may turn blue at other acidity, whatever the impurity is that makes it blue you should follow an acid-base extraction procedure on what you have now to get rid of it.
 
p.viridis and d.cabrera were used, both ground, boiled in distilled, lemon-squirted water. 3x strained water saved, reusing mulch. combined liquids were filtered the boiled down. resin was evaporated to a gooey nightmare.
(i had already heaved my fcuking gonads out from the rue, same method, boiled down into a shot glass worth. i actually am led to believe that it was the lemon that made me start calling ralph, not rue)
resin was then basified with naoh and and extracted into xylene, using new xylene and same water layer. diluted hcl was used to acidify. product was left to dry over wow like 2 weeks prob. within the last few days a blue tinge emerged around the outline of the puddle. now its like 99% dry and its all blue and glimmering.
i read something about tryptamines acetylating into a different compound via strong acid. also psilocybe blue the same way. idk. thanks
 
I have no idea what you have thats shimmering. I'm not really sure what you were trying to do either. You can't smoke DMT HCl. I guess you could use it for Pharma.

Also I've heard DMT HCl doesn't crystallize.

I'm not going to be of much help here...
 
Indeed, this is too much of a shortcut - you cannot simmer down plant material of two sorts into an aqueous extract, straight-to-base is a proposed necessity but continuing with acid-base yields a much more workable product.

Psilocybe blue what? You mention acetylation yet HCL is the acid you use... xylene pulls a lot of compounds with it (its used for jungle spice). Still the blue stuff is a mystery.

Do the acid-base wash like I said. It means add water and solvent, make it basic so that the alkaloids are pulled into the nonpolar solvent, separate, then acidify again and pull into a watery layer, then go into non-polar again and extract.

Its a bit of work but what else do you expect to do with such a mess you describe?
As is said end with a non-polar layer like xylene / coleman fuel / naphtha / etc, so that the DMT is in freebase. You can evaporate that liquid to end up with a vaporizable product.
 
Diplopterys cabrerana has quite a few alkaloids besides dmt as opposed to psychotria viridis.
So who knows what is turning it blue.

Both of these plants are much more expensive per gram than mimosa hostilis for far less DMT per gram.
Which brings me to ask; why didn't you use m. hostilis rootbark like 95% (number pulled out of my ass) of the other people extracting DMT?
 
shishigami said:
That is not normal. Usually the extract is yellowish if impure.
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actually i ended up with a clear liquid. it wasnt until the final stages of drying that the outer edges began to turn blue, and now that its dried its like indigo(purple/blue) color.
i googled 'tryptamines' and 'blue color' and pulled up some cases with reported indigo colored tryptamines. do you think its related to the indigo colored pins on a cake?

Sampi said:
Diplopterys cabrerana has quite a few alkaloids besides dmt as opposed to psychotria viridis.
So who knows what is turning it blue.

Both of these plants are much more expensive per gram than mimosa hostilis for far less DMT per gram.
Which brings me to ask; why didn't you use m. hostilis rootbark like 95% (number pulled out of my ass) of the other people extracting DMT?
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actually, p.viridis, d.cabrera and m.hostilis were handy. mhrb was stb'd a while ago, but never turned indigo.
 
It's possible that the blue color is from oxidized indole / tryptamine compounds, that is where the blue staining with mushrooms comes from. If you have not used any chemicals that would otherwise explain it, then that is obviously an even better fit.

I am not sure if it's because Mimosa Hostilis, what is probably used the most, has a pretty solid and semipure N,N-DMT content compared to P. Viridis alkaloids or if it's because you messed something up this time. Basic oxidation of DMT to DMT N-oxide should yield a yellow color, not blue IIRC.
 
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