Social Justice Black Lives Matter Discussion Thread

[Noodle]

The system has been around since at least the 1780s.

Bro.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Ghettos where hard drugs were sold, and freebase coke were around long before the 1980s.

Thank you.

Those of us that know better have to keep correcting him.

 

[JGrimez]

Pelosi Shrugs Off Mob Destruction in Baltimore: ‘People Will Do What They Do’

 

[Noodle]

Pelosi Shrugs Off Mob Destruction in Baltimore: ‘People Will Do What They Do’

 

[JGrimez]

Democrats are fucking themselves royally by allowing (and even bizarrely encouraging) their cities to descend into chaos.

Not sure what game they're trying to play but it will not end well for them.

 

[Noodle]

And where do you hail from?

 

[DopeM]

I don't understand the Thread-Title. Is it really necessary to discuss something? Black lifes matters as well as white and yellow and green lifes matters.

But WTF happened there is unbelievable, that's for sure.

JJ

That's like saying,
"I don't understand the Thread-Title. Is it really necessary to discuss something? Heroin is cool as well as Cocaine and Psychedelic and Entheogens and Cannabis."


Why even come to a message board if not to discuss things?


The actual movement is an actual thing which actually impacts many things. Most of which I have no knowledge or understanding of, so I come here to discuss and learn. Maybe the topic got corralled into a specific event or issue.

Maybe I'm mis reading your post though

 

[alasdairm]

I'd be willing to bet on that but I would never expect you to tell the truth.

name the source dude. let's see if you're right? i'll put $100 on it.

I'd be willing to bet on that but I would never expect you to tell the truth.

well fancy that. something told me you'd say that so, at 4:33pm yesterday, i sent another bluelighter a private message specifying the source i use most commonly for news. so it's recorded in black and white and time-stamped.

put your money where your mouth is and post the source. you made a claim. let's see if you're willing to back it up.

alasdair

 

[What 23]

 

[yepyepwoah]

Ghettos where hard drugs were sold, and freebase coke were around long before the 1980s.

Venice circa 1500 would like a word.

Did you know the term ghetto originated when Jews were decreed by law to live in a certain area of venice. They were also supposedly decreed by law to be the moneylenders.

Just let your mind wander here folks. You can never understand the victimhood battle of BLM/ANTIFA until you understand the roots of "ghettos" and who the worlds largest (smallest) victim subset is

*Plays tiny violin and watches the world burn*

To truly understand the victimhood plight of the black community, it seems obvious we must understand the origins of the ghetto

With the decree of 29 March 1516, it established such obligations and restrictions for the entire Jewish population. It was also decided that everyone should live in this area of the city, without being able to get out or at night or during the Christian holidays.

In Venice this activity was initially carried out by Christians in the “Monti di Pietà” old pawnshops, however were soon considered contrary to the dictates of the Christian religion and then closed. The closure of the Monti di Pieta was a major problem in the lagoon city, as were many people who were using, so this work was required by law to the Jewish community.

5 THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT VENICE JEWISH GHETTO

A journey into one of the world's oldest Jewish ghetto through curiosities anecdotes and new point of views from 2 venetian girls. Enjoy your read!

www.beescover.com

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Black Africans and black Carribeans really do not like black North Americans, or the racist black supremacist black lives matter at all.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

BLM=Black KKK.

 

[yepyepwoah]

Black Africans and black Carribeans really do not like black North Americans, or the racist black supremacist black lives matter at all.

Which is why communist terrorist antifa/blm types call tuese blacka white supremacist.

Dont sorry blacks, a bunch of insane liberal/keftist whites know whats best for the black colored people.

 

[yepyepwoah]

BLM=Black KKK.

Hrm, what could be the connection here.

Freemasons?

*Chosen* freemasons?

Simon Wolf (1835-1923), longtime chief of the B'nai B'rith's Washington, D.C. office, was specifically an operative of Confederate General and Scottish Rite Masonic Commander Albert Pike, who founded the Ku Klux Klan after the Civil War. Wolf was arrested early in the war by the U.S. Secret Service as one of the coordinators of Confederate espionage in the national capital. Much later, in 1901, Wolf, who had risen to the presidency of interational B'nai B'rith, was a featured speaker at the gala dedication ceremony of the statue of Pike which had just been erected in Washington...

B'nai B'rith, The Confederacy & The Assassination of Abraham Lincoln, a Jewish Wet Job.

Compiled by Kevin BrantB'nai B'rith, The Confederacy & The Assassination Abraham Lincoln"These facts concerning the death of President L...

www.minds.com

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Hrm, what could be the connection here.

Freemasons?

*Chosen* freemasons?

B'nai B'rith, The Confederacy & The Assassination of Abraham Lincoln, a Jewish Wet Job.

Compiled by Kevin BrantB'nai B'rith, The Confederacy & The Assassination Abraham Lincoln"These facts concerning the death of President L...

www.minds.com

I did not know about Simon Wolf.

I meant that both the KKK and BLM are racist hate groups, BLM and their supporters claim that if you are a European-American, European, or 'white' you are racist by default or because of your race or ethnicity.

'Microagressions' are people just being dicks and black and Latino people take things too personally which they need to stop doing.

The last article is hilarious as the author claims most European-Americans, Europeans, or 'whites' do not know our heritage and are ignorant to it and our county's history. This is not true and laughable. If any of the European-American students had openly talked about their heritage, ethnicity, ancestry, or nationality she would accuse them of stealing the spotlight from black and Latino students. Notice how she does not mention Asian people at all? There are lots of East and South Asians at Berkeley and in the SF Bay area. Article translation: black and brown people have been unsuccessful, and it is up to Europeans to fix everything or give black and brown people money, as usual.

No other culture, race, or country has willing allowed mass immigration of other cultures/races/ethnicities except white people in the USA, Canada, Europe. We are so non-racist actually white people are fast becoming a minority in their own countries, willingly. East Asian countries do not allow this. Nobody does. And yet we're still seen as the most racist. It's actually a joke how Europeans or whites are blamed and seen as all being racist when everyone knows that black people are incredibly racist towards people of other races and especially towards other black people.

NPR Cookie Consent and Choices

www.npr.org

Black and Brown People Have Been Protesting for Centuries. It's White People Who Are Responsible for What Happens Next.

As protests spread across America, it's time for white people to look and listen and learn how to fight for racial justice.

time.com

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

2018 data from FBI on total murders. Note that White-on-White muder and Black-on-Black muder are more common than White-on-Black or Black-on-White muder. Black-on-White murder more than twice as common as White-on-Black muder. Over 10x more instances of Black-on-Black murder than White-on-Black murder. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. On the most extreme use of force –officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account. We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in which police officers are utility maximizers (deliver the most value for the least cost. In this case value being service and cost being use of force). a fraction of them have a preference for discrimination, and incur relatively high expected costs (consequences) of officer-involved shootings. https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/p...-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force

 

[TheLoveBandit]

I'm not sure about putting these in the Floyd thread or the BLM thread, given that both seem to be pushing the anti-police agenda. I'll put it here, and will understand if the mods feel another thread is more appropriate.

I thought it worth sharing that despite all the #DefundthePolice efforts, and how violent many of the BLM protests are becoming (and how white in attendance....oddly), there is finally a voice coming out in support of Police (stick with me, this isn't where it ends up):

Over 1,000 Attend 'Back The Blue' March In Wantagh: (Long Island, NY)

WANTAGH, NY — More than a thousand people participated in a rally in Wantagh on Sunday to express their support for police officers and other law enforcement agents. The demonstration comes in response to activist calls to reduce funding for — or even abolish — police departments, and nationwide protests against police brutality and systemic racism. Demonstrations were held following the death of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man who died after a police officer held his knee on Floyd's neck for nearly nine minutes.

The Sunday rally began at Wantagh High School and moved to the Wantagh Long Island Rail Road train station. Marchers waved American flags and held signs showing support for police officers. The marchers were escorted by Nassau County police.

Notably, many marchers did not wear masks despite the ongoing threat of the coronavirus pandemic and public health guidance urging people to wear masks while in public.

^^1k marchers is nice for a small town, but I totally get why such a small thing is NOT getting media attention. Yet.



Granted, the following is a link to a law enforcement site, so one expects it to be pumping up the pro-police rallies....but if you read the article, two things raised are not so good for the pro-police aspect.

‘Back the Blue’ rallies spreading nationwide despite ‘Black Lives Matter’ and ‘Defund the Police’ rhetoric

^^ I tried to find out more, from a local source in Idaho rather than some tweeter from the UK. Seems there have been several protests and counter-protests in recent weeks in Idaho. The best I can find for the date this tweet was put out was BLM held a rally outside the gov't building and was hugely outnumbered this time. Of the counter-protesters, several brandished weapons, and many are accused of racial slurs and epithets, essentially threatening and intimidating the BLM protesters. This was condemned by the mayor following the event.

and

Ohio State Representative Jay Edwards (R) attended a “defend the police” rally in Athens, Ohio. Edwards was followed to his car and assaulted with bottles and spit on by counter-protesters.

^^Without looking further than THIS article, it outlines how there is no video evidence of this, and in fact people came forward calling this Representative's statement as a lie. A bottle of water was thrown, and the person was addressed by other protesters to stop.


Then, you have the Super Happy Fun America organization up in Boston. This is the group that held the straight pride parade, and are now recently held a pro-police rally in opposition of a nearby BLM rally. The BLM event went off peacefully, whereas the SHFA group drew counter protesters chanting BLM and anti-white-supremacy slogans. While the organizers of SHFA stated at the rally they disavow white supremacy in their organization, and have a guy with a swastika tattoo stating only that his friends are of a "white" fraternity. Personally, I get the intent of their message to push back; but I don't think anyone would want to have these guys on their side in anything.

 

[CFC]

The Circle: Masculinity, racism and brotherhood on a Hackney estate

Two brothers living on a council estate in Hackney, east London, express their experiences of masculinity, racism and brotherhood through dance and direct testimony. Revealing interviews are set against dynamic movement sequences, communicating their histories and emotions in a way that words alone could not. This imaginative film explores experiences of anxiety and depression while uncovering love and vulnerability in a close-knit community

Film-maker and choreographer Lanre Malaolu says growing up on a Hackney council estate inspired his new Guardian documentary.

 

[TheLoveBandit]

NYPD Chief Who Knelt With Protesters Ends Up Violently Assaulted By the Mob

NYPD Chief of Department Terence Monahan, the highest ranking uniformed officer on the force, was violently assaulted today during a “protest” on the Brooklyn Bridge. This occurred in conjunction with two other officers suffering injury. One of the attacks was caught on video.
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You may remember Monahan from his previous media coverage. He was notably filmed taking a knee with protestors during the height of the unrest which swept American cities following the killing of George Floyd.
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NYPD chief of department injured during protest on Brooklyn Bridge

Surveillance video shows an unidentified man on the bridge’s walkway leaning over a fence and using a cane to whack cops over their heads as they arrested a counter-demonstrator against a “unity” march on the roadway.

Photos posted on the NYPD’s Twitter account show the wounded cops with blood streaming from their scalps and over their faces.

“The officers sustained serious injuries. This is not peaceful protest, this will not be tolerated,” the department wrote.

Chief of Department Terence Monahan — the NYPD’s highest-ranking uniformed officer — suffered a broken finger during the clashes on the bridge, sources said.
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Video shows Monahan climbing the fence to trade blows with an anti-cop activist during a wild brawl on the walkway between counter-demonstrators and uniformed bicycle cops.

An organizer of the march across the bridge, Tony Herbert, said the group — which included a contingent from the Sergeants Benevolent Association — was heading from Manhattan to Brooklyn when anti-cop activists “jumped off the walk onto the roadway” around 11 a.m.

“They said they did it peacefully. How do you do it peacefully when you have somebody swinging a cane?” Herbert said.

The NYPD said 37 people were arrested, but details weren’t immediately available.

Meanwhile, de Blasio offered an update on his so-far ineffective plan to stem the city’s surge in shootings — without including any NYPD officials in his briefing for at least the third time in recent days.
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De Blasio said the “central Brooklyn violence prevention plan” was developed by Police Commissioner Dermot Shea, but that the city’s top cop was intentionally excluded from the announcement.

“This is a purposeful effort on my part to show the people of New York City there are so many community leaders, so many organizations out there doing this work,” he said.

NYPD statistics show that gun arrests have plunged 67 percent over the past 28 days, following the June 15 disbanding of the department’s undercover anti-crime unit.

There were 10 shootings on Tuesday and another early Wednesday that left a 30-year-old man dead and five others injured in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn.

The borough was also the scene of a shooting that killed a 1-year-old boy in Bedford-Stuyvesant late Sunday.
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Peaceful protesters strike again. Those hugs are vicious. Good thing the Police Chief showed he was on their side.

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

Because de-funding the police is obviously the solution, correct?

Let us all emulate Communist China, it's very fashionable these days ...

Those are the obvious "good police" we will replace our pressent system with.