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best weight loss drug?

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shmeglyn

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I tried phentermine once and lost a pound a day for like 2 weeks then it just stopped working - i couldn't sleep either. I wouldn't mind doing it again but is there anythign else that has worked for you?
Good and bad experiences welcomed.
 
ps - i want to lose like 15 to 20 pounds so not a huge amount but i really need an appetite suppresor that works and a good energy boost
 
Adderall, or Dex? They worked for me (It was just a side effect, wasn't trying to lose weight). But then again, you are going to have the same problems with sleep, also the comedown is a bastid.
 
From my experience with many stimulants in the past that included prescription amphetamines, crystal Methamphetamine and MDMA (and its related analogues), Methamphetamine by far had me lose the most weight and kept it off for the longest duration of time than all of the other stimulants. Losing weight wasn't my original intention of using these drugs but you know what happened after I stopped using these drugs? I gained all the weight back plus I packed on a few extra pounds.
 
i should add that i have no connections. Anything I get has to be available online basically as I don't think a Dr will prescribe someone my weight any weightloss Rx's. So MDMA and meth, etc...are not options for me
 
Relative quick fixes aren't likely to keep the weight off you if you don't change your eating/exercising habits permanently.
Suck it up and go on a calorie controlled diet and do hard exercise regularly if you haven't tried that already.
 
man, the same thing that happened last time will happen again -- you'll lose x amount of weight whilst you take the phentermine, then put that same amount of weight back on in a short amount of time, and possibly even more.

I've lost 15kg (33lb) using meth years ago, and it took 6 months to come back.
Then I also dropped 20kg years later by exercise, good food, and gym. And ya know what? It stayed off.

Any stimulant you take will only supress appetite. And when this happens, your body goes into 'starvation mode'; it isnt getting enough calories for food so your metabolism slows down, making burning off calories harder, and muscle is broken down in preference to fat. So when you come off the meds and start eating like normal, your body is still in starvation mode. And when its in this mode, an excess of calories after so long of not enough calories, makes it so you stack on fat really quick, because your body thinks it's best to store energy (as fat) now while it can.
Any drug that acts on appetite will only work in conjunction with exercise, and a proper diet. A diet which provides enough to keep you losing waight, but doesnt trigger the starvation mode.
The absolute best thing I have ever used is called DNP. The body building community uses it, but it is an extremely dangerous compound to use, as an OD will definitely cause death due to overheating. But look it up, 2,4-dinitrophenol. Bodybuilders can lose up to 1lb of fat per day . The DNP uncouples the production of energy (ATP) in the mitochondria in cells; hence, energy is wasted as heat, and the loss of heat must be matched with energy production from breakdown of fat, and only fat. DNP is just too dangerous for newbies though. Luckily, there are other less toxic drugs which work in a similar manner (though less effective) and I would suggest these over DNP since you dont know what youre doing. Usnic acid is one such compound which works to make you lose fat without putting you in starvation mode. You should find usnic acid online, as like DNP, it's not a sceduled drug or anything like that.
 
if you can't get adderall, ephedrine works. i used ephedrine for years when i was a teenager & it was the only thing that helped me actually control my appetite- almost nothing does that for me, i can always eat...


i've been on adderall for over 3 years now, dual purpose- for ADHD AND believe it or not, bulimia. It's the only thing that has allowed me to completely get rid of any binge/purge urges, but I know a lot of doctors wouldn't scribe it to eating disorder patients unless they're confident that you're not at risk for restrictive eating behaviors, obviously (my doc had seen me thru ~8 years of my eating disorder before putting me on it, but I did ask for it).


i'm not advocating drugs in place of diet/exercise, but for the sake of a straight up answer to the question...
 
Eating nothing but jello and pudding for two weeks caused me to lose 10lbs. But I wouldn't recommend it. Amphetamines and methylphenidate cause me to eat less and crap out everything I do eat.
 
I've been looking into losing weight myself, and don't get me wrong because I will supplement eating habits with drugs myself, but I came across this blog article and it really spoke a lot of sense that I haven't heard for a while. It's about how dieting leads to unhealthy eating (and thinking) and how instead you should make lifestyle changes to lose weight and keep it off. I figure I should share it with you guys because it spoke to me so it could help you too. And I would try to make one change at a time when looking at these, trying to do them all at one would be very difficult, but they are all easily done when taken one step at a time.

What do you think of when you hear the word “diet“?

If you have a few pounds to shed and are contemplating going on a diet, do you rejoice with glee, or dread it with all your might?

When I think of the word “diet”, two definitions come to mind:

1. It is something you do to get the weight off as quickly as possible, while all along thinking about how soon it will be until you will be able to eat all of the food that you are missing now.

2. A diet is whatever you eat consistently each day. Therefore, you may “be on” or have a diet of fast foods or frozen foods, convenience foods, vegetarian, home-cooked, or organic foods. You could have a diet that combines any of these, or others that I haven’t listed.

When adopting definition number two, we are all on a diet. We may be overeating and eating foods that aren’t giving our body much energy or nutrients, but it is still a diet. When I use the term diet on this site, this is more often the definition that I am referring to.

Definition number one though, is the one that I think most people use to define a “diet”. It is restrictive, painful, no one really wants to do it, or at least speaking for myself, I didn’t want to. A diet tends to consist of foods that you probably don’t like to eat, but that you will eat in order to lose weight.

I had to give up dieting because whenever I dieted it made me crazy. I constantly felt like I was depriving myself and I became obsessed with food. I would lose a little weight and then end up gaining it all back. I remember one of the first diets that I was fascinated with was a book that my mom had called (something like) “The Oriental Diet”. I remember reading this book and thinking that this diet was magical, that it would solve all of my problems if I could just do it.

I honestly don’t remember what was involved with it now except that you were to eat a lot of rice (something that I didn’t eat then, but I love now). The sad thing is that I don’t even think I was in my teens yet, and I wasn’t overweight. Already, I was beginning to have an unhealthy relationship with food.

Today, I won’t diet. I do follow a healthy eating plan (a subject of future posts), however I do not consider it to be a diet because I am eating regular, whole foods that I cook myself. I can continue to eat like this forever, and most importantly, I only eat foods that I like. This leads us to the topic of the difference between a diet and a lifestyle.

When you choose to diet, it is a short-term solution, expected to last only until the weight is off. Almost any diet you follow can work and you will lose weight, but where they fall short is when you have accomplished your goal. What do you do now? Unfortunately, most go back to eating as they did before they began the diet. This is one factor that contributes to the yo-yo syndrome of losing weight, only to regain it again, and often more than you lost.

In my opinion, I think that it is better to not even start a diet. Instead, what about beginning to make lifestyle changes now, changes that you can live with for the rest of your life? These changes will not only benefit your health, but can also help take excess pounds off of your frame. You don’t need to commit to changing everything all at once, since even a small change can make a difference. If you continue to add more small changes in, they will add up and create a brand-new, healthy lifestyle for you, step by step.

Here are 9 changes you could make right now instead of dieting (start with just one):

1. Replace all soda with water. - Do this and you will be amazed at how getting rid of that carbonation will help you feel less bloated, not to mention the sugar, high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), and other chemicals that you will be dropping from your daily diet.
2. Eliminate fast food. - Swear off any and all fast food joints. You could still go to restaurants where they cook their food rather than reheating it from a box. You would be stunned to know just what is in fast food, how much sugar, fat, HFCS, and salt that it is loaded with (just to mention the main ingredients).
3. Eliminate frozen, processed food. - Check out the ingredients of those ready made meals. Note how much sodium, sugar, fat, HFCS, and chemicals they contain. Sure, they taste good (I used to eat them every day!), but healthy, “good for you food” can taste wonderful, too.
4. Eliminate any food that contains HFCS. See my previous posts one and two for more details on why this is such an unhealthy ingredient for your body. By the way, you will automatically be completing suggestions 2 and 3 if you do this.
5. One day a week, try a new recipe with whole ingredients. - Find a recipe online that you can cook at home yourself, something that you would have ordered previously from a fast food restaurant. Make your own burger, peel and cut your own potatoes and make french fries, or make your own chicken fried rice. Even though these may not be the healthiest of choices, you are cooking it yourself and are in control of the ingredients you put into your food.
6. Once a week, try a new recipe with whole ingredients (haven’t I heard this before? ;) ) - This time, prepare a healthy version of a dish that you like. Check out the advanced recipe search on Epicurious.com. You can select the type of recipe that you are searching for, i.e.: low sodium, low or no sugar, and what type of dish you are seeking (beef, tomatoes, etc.). You’re bound to find something that you like.
7. Commit to reading labels. - Become conscious of what you are eating by reading all food labels. Read the ingredients, remembering that the top four are what the product mainly consists of. Read the nutrient information. When you find ingredients you haven’t heard of before, look them up online, find out what they are. This one change will help you immensely in educating yourself on what you are eating each day.
8. Go for a 15-30 minute walk each day. - Walking is an excellent form of exercise, it is much easier on the knees than running is, and it’s free! If you have a treadmill (I love mine), walk on that. Listen to a book on tape, music, or watch t.v., just as long as you are walking.
9. Stretch for 10 minutes each day. - Learn how to safely stretch your body to bring flexibility back into your life. Go to HowToStretch.com and start out with their beginning stretches if this is something new for you. By keeping your body flexible, your muscles are less prone to injury. Stretching is also great for relaxation, and in my experience, it is essential if you have a job that requires you to sit all day.

Choose just one of these nine changes, one that you can see yourself implementing and living with for years to come. Do it whole-heartedly for a week, two weeks, or a month before you add in another change.

Find the motivation for making the change so that you are truly committed to it, then follow through and add in another positive change later. You don’t need to change everything all at once, and by going this route instead of that of a short-term diet, you will be creating a healthy lifestyle that you can live with, rather than a diet that you are fighting against.
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http://www.thefitshack.com/2007/03/16/the-difference-between-a-lifestyle-and-a-diet/
 
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doing drugs and not eating because you spent all your money on drugs
 
Nickatina - very true, the ONLY thing that will work in the LONG RUN is committing to a lifestyle of healthy habits. i had an eating disorder for about 10 years, bouncing from 110lbs up to 200 and everything in between, and nothing would keep my weight stable. it was only after i gave up restrictive eating and purging that i was able to lose 60lbs and keep it off by counting calories. i workout if i need to but the biggest part is caloric intake-

INPUT (calories) must be LESS than your OUTPUT (calories burned) to lose any weight.

that's ultimately the only way to lose any weight, and being aware of input vs output is ultimately the only way to "keep it off."

drugs may help to curb your appetite but there's nothing that will magically burn any significant # of calories.
 
Heroins teh best weight lost drug. I lost 30lbs (140-110) my frosh year of highschool. twas spooky, still around 115 & i wuld have just ended senior year.
 
I use to to take this shit called amp energy drops.. Put 5 or 6 drops in your coffee and your off to the races..
You don't have any urge to eat and it gives you a shit load of energy to use for exercise.
That shit worked awesome, but I don't know if they still sell it..
 
i was at my regular weight, with the odd exception, when i was IVing amphetamines near daily - i'd feel like i was going to die of a heart attack if i didn't eat, but i had no stomach capacity so i lived on total shit.

A night out on MDMA will always take a few pounds off me, and doing opiates with the constant nausea and puking that gives me certainly takes the pounds off, but i can't function and it's no fun.

Basically, if you use any 'cheat' methods of losing weight (very low calorie diets, throwing up or drugs) it will possibly get you there fast, but you'll feel so ill you'll lose you're whole social life, and possibly your job, to it. (speaking from a LOT of experience 8) )
 
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