Best Drummer...

BlueAdonis said:
I don't know his name, but Slipknot's drummer is fuckin SICK.
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if you like drum triggers, and the fact that there's two other percussionists making it sound like he's doing it alot more.

slipknot are atrocious excuses for rock musicians.
 
EVEN IF slipknots drummerS did it all with just human arms and legs and did it with ONE person, hed still be pretty below average compared to about 10,000 drummers i could think of.

shut up finder
 
Originally posted by THE WOOD
shut up finder


How about you shut up about metal for a change? :p
 
why should he shut up about metal? try to find any drummers in any type of music that can pull off the complexity of most heavy [metal, grindcore, some hardcore, etc] music? [probably heavy music you haven't heard, so don't question it or you're gonna get a whole shitload of band names you won't even bother to check out because you'd prefer to be right]
 
I'm not gonna comment on the double bass fiasco. you either like it, or you don't.

but D. H. Peligro (drummer for Dead Kennedy's) was always one of my favorite. he was with the Red Hot Chili Peppers at one point too, so some of you might know him there.
 
^ thx i diddnt even bother to say it [ment for malachai]

/lists about 2,000 bands with average to above-average drummers that would blow the pants off any other style of music's best drummer in the field

btw metal rules finder ur just jealous cuz my taste in music > yours
 
Keep thinking that. I have no problems with metal, but it's not the be-all, end-all. Nothing is. It all comes down to personal preference.

However,I would love to see some of those "world's greatest drummers" you're so quick to praise perform other styles of music and see how they stack up.

Somehow, I doubt they could pull it off.
 
just about every metal musician is well trained in classical(classical as in not the fucking 60s), jazz, blues, and typically touches all surfaces of other contemporary musics.

in fact you really cant be spectacular at metal without having a strong classical music background and maybe some jazz too. its possible, certainly, but to deny classical/baroque era's influence (hell even the rennaissance era, especially in melodic black metal, its mostly an abstract composition of mid-evil sonnets) in metal would just be absurd. ok maybe its diff for drummers, but at least for guitarists.

M E T A L because i know you love to see this word.

It all comes down to personal preference.
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you do know this is all in good fun right?
 
I'm talking about guys who meld Latin and Rock, or Afro-cuban and jazz, or any number of blends of very cultural and ethnic-based drumming techniques and styles.

Drums are just so much older than everything else out there. Whole cultures are based around it. Drumming is very much about different styles, for example Africa to South America have styles so different from each other it is hard to believe.

Please don't think I'm trying to downplay metal and the skill it takes to play some of that stuff, but I think there are a lot of other factors you are not taking into consideration.

(I know, but drumming is something very important to me and I have studied it for a long time, so I tend to get uppity about it.) :D
 
^ i understand. i will then tell you that your exposure to decent metal is absolute minimal. i will also tell you that if anyone tried to expose you, the sheer alien nature of the music would prevent you (and by you i mean anyone not affiliated with such culture) to have great difficulty in listening objectively enough to incorporate everything that is going on. its a tid bit more than quadruplet gallops on the double floor toms :)
 
malachi305 said:
why should he shut up about metal? try to find any drummers in any type of music that can pull off the complexity of most heavy [metal, grindcore, some hardcore, etc] music? [probably heavy music you haven't heard, so don't question it or you're gonna get a whole shitload of band names you won't even bother to check out because you'd prefer to be right]
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But is complexity the most important thing? Is it even important at all?

One of my favourite drum sounds is Steve Moriss's on Joy Division's 'Unknown Pleasures'. He never really played anything beyond boom krak boom boom krak. Just a basic rock beat played with a lot of restraint and dynamics. He really new how to control JD.

That restraint (and the fact that the kit itself was mic'ed and eq'ed so well) produces a really fragile and hollow sound. It totally works in the sonic picture.
 
i like Danny Carey (i seem to remember something about him having an amazing practice space...) for depth of expression; and for intricacy.

i really like whomever did 'head hands and feet' from Moonflower as well.
 
Finder said:
For amazing use of double bass as a texture, I point to Danny Carey. The man can make the drums sound unbelievably intimidating. Metal drummers that rely on double bass like I described above get filed into the hack category in my book.
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It seems the faster and harder they play them the better they are with nu-metallers, Finder summed it up perefctly. Attitude, skill and power dont all revolve around the bass drums. On Tool tracks without any vocals he really goes hard.

* Tool - Merkaba (experimental, i say great, others say boring, but eh)
*Tool - Triad Live, watching Dale from the Melvins and Danny getting almost tribal on their respective kits as it lurches into gear was insane (live in sydney tracks from like winmx are rare, but theyre there...)

The man has "the brain", a computer that alters sounds produced from his drums 8o

tool rules
 
Finder said:
Joey Jordison relies on double bass far too much. It shouldn't be used as a crutch. He's also a fucking idiot if you've ever read any interviews with him. 8)

Classic rock drummers are good for their time and place, but Mitch Mitchell? Ginger Baker? What did either one of those two do after Hendrix and Cream, respectively. Nothing. Perhaps I haven't heard enough of them, but I feel both are lackluster at best. The only reason Bonham and Moon didn't move along is because they died too early into their careers.
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Who cares what they did after Cream and Hendrix they didnt have to do anyhting..... Ginger Bakers improvised solos in songs sound out of this world... put a Cream cd in your deck and sit back and really listen.

Although Mitch Mitchell didnt do anything he could say he played with the greatest guitarist ever how many of the drummers you named can say that...

And how Keith Moon even kept a beat to me is amazing....
 
Billy Cobham, Tim Alexander, Brain. Whoever said most of the best drummers lean twords metal is an idiot. Where the hell is the logic in that?
 
JoJo Mayer...the best non-metal drummer (besides Danny Carey) I have ever seen live. He has a band, "The Nerve," but he is basically the whole band. Drum and Bass, House, Salsa...you name it, he is just a machine.



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