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Benzydamine extraction from Tantum Rosa powder.

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alkahest

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Good day to you all.

I'm hoping someone could help me with this: How could I extract benzydamine from Tantum Rosa powder?

Tantum Rosa is a powder sold for vaginal cleansing. You can buy it here with no prescription from various pharmacies. It comes in envelopes, each about 9 grams in weight and it contains:

500 mg of benzydamine, active compound

sodium chloride
povidone-iodine
cetyl trimethyl ammonium chloride

So the envelope contains ~5.5% benzydamine, the rest salts and stuff that you really don't want to hang around in your organs.

My question is: how can I extract the benzydamine from the powder, so I avoid all the excipients and not have kidney failures and other nasty stuff? I don't know enough chemistry, but I'd appreciate any kind of answer. The thing is that, for example, the solubility for benzydamine the same for various solvents as NaCl solubility is.. so I can't use water, ether or whatever to separate the two. I know there are various other methods, but don't know any/enough details about them or about the excepients or benzydamine so as to know what the hell to do.

Thanks.
 
Please don't tell me you're trying to use this to get high? It's an NSAID but accordin to wikipedia, if you overdose on it it becomes a stimulant and deliriant. Sounds to me like it is more dangerous than the excipients :\
 
Jamshyd said:
Please don't tell me you're trying to use this to get high? It's an NSAID but accordin to wikipedia, if you overdose on it it becomes a stimulant and deliriant. Sounds to me like it is more dangerous than the excipients :\
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Well, I'm sorry to tell you, but yeah, I really really want to get high on this. It's a very used drug in these parts of the world (eastern europe), praised by many for its effects: you get really vivid halucinations(both abstract like surounding auras, vivid light-play, geometric patterns etc and not-so-abstract, like animals, people, landscapes etc), don't get dissociated (you can have a clear judgement, if you're no nutter) and has the extra bonus of being a stimulant.. and, as far as I read on the net, benzydamine by itself does no severe damage to you. Why the hell wouldn't you want to take such a drug, then!? :)

My problem is that it seems that I have a high tolerance for it: I've already ingested 2 envelopes once(that's 1000mg of benzydamine) and nothing happened. I just felt a little dizzy and view some strange microscopic lights that surrounded my eyesight for ~1 minute. Other people(personally known or read about on the net) tripped balls at this dosage. Maybe it's because I'm not a small person(192cm, 90kg), so I'll try to increase the dosage, but the problem is that if I take more envelopes, the excipiants might pose unignorable threats to my health(for ex, at 3 envelopes I ingest 18 grams of NaCl...that's alot of salt), that's why I'm seeking ways to extract benzydamine from this and would be really grateful for any help I could get.
 
The salt would be the least of my worries out of all those other ingredients... And that stuff sounds like a garbage drug - there are so many much better things available on the black and grey markets. Getting high off of OTC drugs usually sucks.

An acid-base extraction should do the trick though....
 
Sounds to me like you get it from ingesting a lot of salt when you're suffering from deficiency of salt.
 
TheAzo said:
The salt would be the least of my worries out of all those other ingredients... And that stuff sounds like a garbage drug - there are so many much better things available on the black and grey markets. Getting high off of OTC drugs usually sucks.

An acid-base extraction should do the trick though....
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Thanks for the a/b hint. Will look into it.

Please elaborate on what your worries would be about.

It's the only decent deliriant here (as far as I and the other noobs like me know) and I don't have connections on the black/grey market. Tough luck for us garbage-eaters. Even though I still think the garbage really is the excipiants.

As far as benzydamine goes, it seems to me that it's really undocumentated. Most people place it as being anticholinergic and, after a little reading I tend to agree, by comparing the trip reports that I've been told/read about. The MAIN difference between benzydamine and anticholinergics seems to be that you can clearly tell reality from illusions and that's a big treat. I see no negative, non-reversible (except death) physiological or neurological documented effects. That's one of the main reasons I came here for also, so any additional information besides 'don't take it!' would be greatly appreciated...

I'll take today 1500mg of this today. That's 24 grams of salt. Heh. If I still don't get hooked, then fuck it, I won't push it, unless I can extract or buy it in pure form.

Just to be mentioned, I'm on the serotonergic highway and this is just to get a glipmse of the other roads.

mindtools, thanks for the thread, nice to see some info about this, but it seems that nothing really informational (except the trip reports, which I knew) came out of it.. :( also, you've got a PM :)

later edit: mindtools, seems I can't give you a PM until I reach a bluelighter status (...), but I've sent a PM via e-mail, hope it got there.
 
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