Benzos Benzo w/d while on methadone?

[Methacodone]

Lets start with, I take methadone daily, 80mg. I know how dangerous it is mixing methadone with benzos, and I don't want to go any farther and get off safely! I'm also going to mention to him how I want to taper off my methadone down to 30mg, and switch over to subetex/suboxone...is that a good idea to tell him that? To at least let him know im trying to get out of this drug world I call hell. I hate being dependant on drugs to go on with my life. Right now I cant live without methadone and benzos.

Ok, I've been taking Valium and Xanax for the last 6 months, everyday.
When combined, I take 4-6mg Xanax, and 20-40mg valium, daily.
When alone, I take 6-10mg Xanax or 90-120mg of Valium, daily.
I tried to go ONE day without any benzos, and I was literally shaking, sweating, stomach cramps, nausea/vomiting, the whole nine yards, I got scared as I was shaking that I might have a seizure so I couldn't handle it anymore and took more benzos. im obviously addicted to them now. I have an appointment exactly tomorrow at 2pm with my therapist to discuss my problems. Of course ill be honest with him with everything.

Have any of you blue lighters been through this type of situation (im pretty sure there should be at least a few people), how did it go? and what happened? What did the therapist do?

And whats the best thing to tell him to get the right help? I just want to safely taper with medical help, then buying more benzos on the street and tapering myself. Because im an addict, I can never trust an addict even my self, so I know I cant do it. That's what this appointment is for.

Any help will be appreciated, thank you.

 

[Johno88]

Tell your doctor the truth and he will be able to help you with your benzo problem accurately. Because benzos can cause seizures he'll taper you down very slowly, which is what you need. Don't worry about changing over to suboxone just yet. One step at a time. Get the benzos under control first, that's more important at the moment. I've been exactly where you are, addicted to both methadone and 2 types of benzos. The doctor should be able to prescribe other types of medication that will help with anxiety and getting off the benzos.
Let us know how you go and if you have any other questions just ask. You can get through this with the right medical support.
good luck.

 

[dopemaster]

It would be so dangerous to just stop taking benzos at that dosage.

I went on subs for a brief period of time and the doctor said it was vital to my recovery that I taper off of benzos. I just kind of saved up enough to taper off before he fucked with my benzo dosage.

IME benzo wd is nastier than opiate wd.

I suppose if you want to get off benzos you need to find a doctor to taper you down and give you some anticonvulsants. You are quite prone to have a seizure if you were to just stop taking your benzos.

I doubt you get your methadone from a doctor because no clinic I know of would give you 80 mgs or really any methadone at that benzo dose. They always piss test people here before even letting them speak to a doctor.

I hear the combo of benzos and methadone is deadly. That being said, I have taken methadone with benzodiazpines and I was fine. I am not sure if I even knodded off.

So if you are doing this on your own and deadset on it, you really want to talk to a doctor and if you won't do that at least watch yourself. If you are constantly knodding off that is a pretty good indication that you are playing russian roulette with your life.

Still the choice is yours.

 

[Methacodone]

I've been in the opiate game for8+ years. 2 years of hydrocodone. 3 years of oxycodone. Both of them orally. Then i switched to smoking heroin for a year. That's 6 years of illicit opiate use, now I've been on methadone for 2 years, to make it a total of 8 years experience with opiates. So my tolerance is very high. I'm not saying it's not possible for me to od. It is if taken a stupid amount (too much) but I know my tolerance and I thank god, for all the years I've done drugs not once have i od'd. But to be honest with everyone here, I never nod off, even in my early opiate years I liked energetic highs. Drugs effect me differently. You'll be surprised, I actually get an energetic high from the methadone and benzos. Most people tend to nod off this combo, but not me. And another thing, I space out my doses, that's probly another reason why. I don't like nodding anyways.

And about the benzo issue with my methadone clinic, they know what's up. I test every month, the last 6 tests have been negative for benzo use. My methadone counselor and doctor are awesome, as well as my clinic. They don't expect everyone to be clean just because they're giving us methadone. That's just to keep us from w/d. They absolutely try and help me get off, theyre not the type of clinic who wants you to stay there forever for the money. No my clinic actually cares for me. They help me set appointments with doctors I need to see, detox me whenever I want, etc. I did get my take homes taken away from me though for my dirty tests, which I'm not surprised by. They know me good, 2 years good. I wasn't into benzos when I started methadone. My anxiety and depression were getting bad over 6 months ago, that's what got me into buying benzos.

but yeah I'll def. keep you guys updated and let everyone know how my appt. Goes tomorrow.
Wish me luck,
And thanks for the support.

-methacodone

 

[purplehaze147]

Ahh you're on that much Xanax & Valium daily & getting them all from the street!?

A therapist doesn't prescribe stuff I think you mean a psychiatrist. Usually a psychiatrist will not give you benzos if you say you've been abusing them. He/she will almost surely tell you you need to go to an inpatient detox & that's what you need to do honestly. That's the only safe way to get through with this. You're going to have to take a couple weeks off from your job, they can't fire you since this is a medical emergency.

Dude seriously you're probably not gonna like this but you really should go to detox.

 

[Methacodone]

I actually considered re hab. But I only have medical. And that doesn't cover any rehab. The cheapest one I found was 15,000$/month. Yeah right. I wish I was loaded like that. I can't afford rehab. Medical doesn't cover any type of in patient detox. That's why out patient is my only option right now. I'm 25 and still depend on my parents for a living. They re struggling themselves esp. With me not even working or anything. Without my family I'm homeless.


i wish I had the money for rehab.

 

[purplehaze147]

I actually considered re hab. But I only have medical. And that doesn't cover any rehab. The cheapest one I found was 15,000$/month. Yeah right. I wish I was loaded like that. I can't afford rehab. Medical doesn't cover any type of in patient detox. That's why out patient is my only option right now. I'm 25 and still depend on my parents for a living. They re struggling themselves esp. With me not even working or anything. Without my family I'm homeless.


i wish I had the money for rehab.

You don't want to go to rehab since you're on methadone. They'll take you off of it cold turkey along with the benzos. Detox is not the same. It's where you only stay 3-14 days and they taper you off. You sure you're insurance won't cover it? Without it it's like $500 a day, still expensive and not worth paying out of pocket. I've actually been to a dextox once where it wasn't inpatient, it was called a partial hospital program. I went there at 8am-8pm everyday for around a week give or take.
It was really nice. You should see if that's covered & if you can find a place like that.

 

[dopemaster]

I have been to detox quite a few times, mostly for alcohol.

They didn't cut my benzos, they gave me more. It was still an unpleasant experience at most places.

The cheapest places are usually the local hospitals and they suck. I do not know who had the bright idea of combining detox with the psych ward but that is how it is at the county hospital.

So basically every one is treated as suicide risk. Say goodbye to your sweatpants and shoes. (no strangling) You get a nicotine inhaler that will make you quit smoking because it will make you puke when you hit it. If you are lucky enough to be able to smoke you can expect crazy people to try to steal your stuff.

Also say goodbye to your pants for 12 hours until they decide you are not going to strangle someone with your pants. They ask you the basic questions like "do you feel like hurting yourself or anyone else." Don't be a smartass or they will keep your pants.

Its not that bad depending on your circumstances. It is rather in and out. They just give you some heavy duty benzos and blood pressure medication.

Opiate detox is a bit different. They are not going to want to let you keep your benzos. For me they cut my dose a bit and honestly that was worse than coming off of opiates. Some people get subutex tapers and some people get immodium. I suppose it is under the circumstances that you are there for.


That being said there are nicer places. You go to your local mental health for a referall. One place was rather nice. They gave me a kickass dose's of librium and they had tv, food, and the sheets were not made out of plastic. I went in on a friday afternoon and came out on a tuesday morning and made it to class that day. I felt fine. They did not fuck with my benzo dose.

I did get my way into a betty ford type place for free once. I wrote them a letter as they take one person with no insurance a month. Well they said I could keep my benzos, they lied. They thought going down a mg every other day would be great and I could do yoga while shitting my pants. I ended up leaving after they stopped trying to lie to me. I suppose if I did not need a benzo rx it would have been a great place.

So if you want to get into a decent place hit up your local mental health, talk to a doctor, research some places, and maybe write a letter or two to get into a good facillity.

Personally I would kick off opiates at home. Alcohol is a different story. You can die from alcohol withdrawals, so I decided to hit up some sort of hospital place every time. One place was a bit violent and there was a clear racial division.

Here are a few more things you should know. If you make a threat on the phone or to the staff they take it very seriously. The last person you want to piss off is your psychiatrist who will most likely be one of the dumbest shrinks you have ever met. You did sign yourself in so, you can sign yourself out IF the psychiatrist OKs it. They usually do unless you have threatened to kill someone within the last 24 hours.

So I am saying this because I did make a threat over the phone and was held for 24 hours. These people almost had me sent to a psych ward for something that was not there business, so yes they do listen to your phone calls.

If you have sex there, you will get kicked out. They usually give you condoms at the door.

If you get in a fight you will most likely get an IM shot of thorazine. I have seen that happen. Sometimes they call the cops.

So once again it depends on where you go. If you go to a cheap governement funded one for poor people it is kind of like jail but with more screaming.

All that being said detox was neccesary for me to go to and it probably saved my life. If I knew what I know now, I would have gotten into a nicer place.

I would never go to detox for opiates. That is just me. If I had to come off I would go to my regular doctor and get some detox meds and chill at home which I have done.

 

[Methacodone]

purplehaze147-

Yeah, my parents were actually willing to pay, and send me to rehab. But I know 30 days isn't enough for me, and that's already $15k out the pocket. That's throwing money in the garbage.

I hope my appointment goes well today. I do have 10 10mg valiums, and 10 1mg k-pins stashed somewhere in my room just incase anything stupid happens, like him not wanting to help me at all. But I hope that's not the case. This is my first meeting with this Doctor/therapist. I hope he's a cool one and understands me. I'm really trying to get off, I'm not asking for drugs for recreational use, or for fun or anything like that. I need these drugs now, because I NEED them. I can't live without them.

10-12 day detox? that's no where near enough time for me, esp paying $500 a DAY? Sorry, but F that. My Methadone Doctor honestly is probably the smartest person ive met in my entire life, im met with many other doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. none of there knowledge comes CLOSE to my methadone Doctors knowledge, he's extremely smart. Most methadone stories I here their doctors try to keep them there as long as possible, for more money obviously. Not my Dr. Everytime I meet with him, he asks me "you're not ready to detox out yet buddy?" I love him a a lot! ( no homo) he told me the safest way possible, is going down 1mg per week, but 2mg a week isn't bad either if you want it to go a little faster. That could take forever, but all this time ive been there 2+ years, if I started detox earlier I would've been out already. But I wasn't ready. Now I am. once my benzo situation is situated, im going to start going down 2mg a week on my methadone. GUARANTEED. I want off this shit.

Will it be a better idea to do 2mg a week and go all the way down to 0? or should I get down to 30 and switch to bupe? Before I start me detox, I would love to hear some answers, and I really really appreciate your guys support and time posting on here for me, helping me out. You blue lighters are AWESOME!!!!!!!!

dopemaster-

you're 100% right, the worst thing to do is to argue with your doctor. Or he'll just kick you out and not help you at all. They've been through proabably every situation possible, they meet with many different kind of patients EVERYDAY. and you DO NOT know what they go through either, so I totally understand that. Theres no way im argueing with him, even if he's not willing to help me out, ill say thanks ill try another doctor and that's it.
Every doctor is different also, so I hope the one im going to today is one of the cool ones. I actually got this appointment through my primary care physecion and my medical customer service now. The earliest they had at my current place I go to is in MARCH, that's too long. so I told the customer service line im willing to go anywhere in my city. so they found a appt. for me a few days later, made the call Friday, and she set the appointment for me for TODAY (Monday, yay!) haha.

Again, thanks for the support you awesome bluelighter people you!!!

 

[MartinFn]

In the beginning,start from NOW to taper off the fuckin benzos...and maybe it won't be as difficult it seems, since that you're taking them for 6 months..(i don't mean that it will be a walk at the park, but not a fuckin hell..). Most people would find taperin from valium easier than from xanax, (it's the long half-life..), so if you could find a dose that covers you and start going down from there, like 5, or 10mg a week, but the dosage is individual, and it extends in a wide range, i mean some people find easy to be in 70mg a day and go down 10mg a week, while other go 2mg a week.. But the point is to find the dosage that suits you, by meaning not to get high, but keep you calm and off the w/d;s symptoms..

The "advantage" in your situation, is that though you're in opiates for kinda lot of years, you're not in benzos for years too..and as for your dosage, valium 100mg(alone, with no xanax..), as you said, it's considered high, or medium to high. But, as you said, it's for 6 months, so i think that if you really want it, you'll be clean, for sure..and believe me, it won't be as difficult as it seems now, just hold on to the rules that you,(and your Dr, it's very important to have a good dr, maybe from the clinic, i don't know..), will set. Of course i'm talking just for getting off the benzos, cause trying to get off the benzos and the methadone simultaneously, as already Johno88 mentioned, would be very difficult, one step at a time, couldn't say it better%). Also, about your plan, to come down the methadone to 30mg, and switch to suboxone, i think it's perfect, (i would do the same..), but don't forget you have to kick off the benzos first..

Speak to the drs at your clinic, tell them the truth, about the benzo and everything, and i think (and wish also..) they will help you. Maybe they'll give you lyrica, or clonodine, or whatever they'll think that should ease your w/d..But, regardless of the way that the situation goes, and this is the most important, you are the center, the key of the whole thing..It depends on you, and your strength of will. As a matter of fact, it's up to you..yeah, the drs, maybe some meds to ease the w/ds, these are secondly reason meanings, it depends on you. And if i got it right, you really want it, and i believe that if you really-really want it, you will finally succeed. I'm on and off for twenty years. I achieved to stay clean for years, but i relapsed, cause (what?) i'm stupid..yeah, i admit it. Cause after all the difficulties, all the efforts, fuck yeah, only a fool can relapse..anyway..

The point is not me, is you. So at 25, on 8 years totally on opiates, within 2 years on h but smoking, i suppose you never used needles, (and i think this is an advantage, cause when you go IV-intravenously, it's much more difficult..), about 6 months on benzos, (and i hope that is all, not other substances..), is a situation that you really can get rid of...I say it one more time, it all depends on you..but look, be careful and don't let the anxiety get over you, fill you with stress and guilties..The mentally part is rather the most important. So keep your spirit up!!! Cause yeah, fuckin OK, you made mistakes, you maybe took wrong and bad choices, you've got your own part of faults....but this doesn't mean you'll be punishment to the eternity8(... Since you regret it, you shouldn't feel guilty, it's a fact..

So my friend, at the beginning taper and get rid of the fuckin benzos. Then, you'll deal with the opiates..remember to work your body, exercise helps the release of endorphines, and also it will help you to sleep, (if you get tired, it's easier to sleep..), from my experience it helps a lot, also vitamines C and all the B's (B6, B12 etc. help the nervous system i think..), carrots and all the fruits and vegetables, i'm sure you know man...It maybe seems difficult, but hold on, don't give up, and in the end you'll win, and you'll see that it wasn't as dificult as it seemed, though it's not a walk in the park, (said it again, but anyway..)%). You've got to do this achievement, for the people who love you, for your parents which love you, are always by your side and support you, as you mentioned.., and finally foryourself..cause you're 25 years old, and maybe by the moment you're in troubles, but you'll do what you have to do to get rid of these troubles, and get your life back in your hands, as you deserve...

I wish you, really from my heart, good luck, (it's always useful..), and take your time and act right..i don't know about your religion, if you're a believer or whatever, but as from my side i'm Christian, (but far from the good one Christian who goes to church and things..), and i know from personal experience that God helps..a lot..but i don't wanna sound like preaching, or be graphically, scenic, IDK how to express it exactly, but i think you got it..%). Be safe, strong, and always have patience..Also excuse me for writing all this, but i just wanna help and, (if i can), put my little stone, pebble, whatever... Wish you to be ex-methacodone, pal....%)... Yours,



MartinFn

 

[Methacodone]

MartinFn-

Wow, thank you SOOOOOOOOOO much for that HELPFUL and amazing post.
To answer your questions, im on no other medications, except methadone and benzos as I stated.
Also, yes I DEF. want out of this drug world im dependant on today. I'm working so hard to get off!
You're a Christian? Much respect, I come from a religious family with Jesus Christ and Virgin Mary frames around the house, im a catholic/christian.
Yes, my parents are AMAZING, what I did in the past to them is unreal, LONG story (Stealing, lying, doing drugs behind there back, bitching at them, sneaking out, etc.), yes they're still by my side trying to help me at age 25, I can't be more thankful for the family I have, obviously without them, honestly i'd be dead now on the streets. So I first thank the lord, and my family for the support im getting today not only from the lord, and my family, but also you awesome bluelighters are being amazingly supportive and I appreciate you guys from the bottom of my heart.

 

[Methacodone]

Ok, yesterday, was a CRAZY fucking day. My appointment went great with my new therapist/counselor, I told her everything, she wrote everything down and set a appointment for me with a physiatrist pretty soon. She saw me in benzo w/d and felt so bad. That morning I only took 5mg of valium, and 1mg of Xanax, I dosed those at 5:30am, and my appointment was at 2pm. that's not nearly enough for me. just to show her im in REAL benzo w/d. She said if it keeps getting worse, please promise me if you go into horrible w/d that you'll go to the E.R., I said I promise Because this appointment I set up is in march, which is a long time . But the good news Is the front desk young lady was also REALLY nice, she said this Thursday is expansion Thursday, with physiatrists, which is what I need. She said the day is booked, but more than likely at least 1-3 people wont show up for their appointments so im going in on Thursday and crossing my fingers someone doesn't show up so I can see him this Thursday instead of all the way in march!! My therapist/counselor said she doesn't have a license to RX and meds, which I totally was cool about, that's why she made an appointment for me with the physiatrist.

But the crazy part was when I left, I was in a super ghetto area, idk if you guys watch gangland, but I do. They have an episode in SAN DIEGO about the LOGAN HEIGHTS gang. that's exactly where my appointment was, in LOGAN HEIGHTS. All the parking there was fucked up and filled on the street. So I parked behind a bank, in an ally, with a few other cars (I had no other choice). As I was walking to my car, 2 black dudes were leaning against the wall looking at me (im a white boy, wearing etnies shoes, and a quicksilver shirt, etc.), I didn't say a thing. One of them goes "what's up!?", all I said was whats up man, he goes what you acting hard? I said no, nothing like that, he pushes me. I was like wtf and pushed him back, that's when his other bitch ass friend jumps in and they JUMP me, I was able to take my my little pocket knife and stabbed one of them TWICE, and he got real hurt and started yelling but his other friend was like 6'3 AT least (im 5'10) he gives me a good punch in between my eye and nose, I see another dude running towards us, that's a Mexican neighbor hood, I thought he was with them, im like here it goes, im dead, but he comes up and HELPS me. He started fighting with the other black dude who knocked me out, I got up and started helping the guy who was helping me, his other friend I stabbed was on the floor crying. So we get the other mother fucker on the ground, and we started cracking his jaws, kicking him in the head, ribs, all that shit. I had a real bad bloody nose and my eye was swollen from that pumch I got in the face. but I was able to get up and help the guy who was helping me. So overall, we WON. One of them got stabbed TWICE in the stomach by me, before getting hit by his other friend. The other one as we were kicking him and beating his ass, I think he got hurt more then the guy who got stabbed twice. We really beat the fuck out of him. But I thank the lord for the guy who ran towards us and helped ME. I hear a lot of stories where blacks and Mexicans don't really like each other. That dude who came and saved me was a god send, I did end up going to the hospital to get my eye and nose checked out, thank GOD my nose wasn't broken, holy shit. I got scared cuz it was DRIPPING blood and in a LOT of pain. Today I feel much better. But I do have a black eye . That was one of the craziest moments of my entire life. I havn't got in a fight since high school, im 25 now, that's at least 7 years ago. But im glad it went my way!!

I also thank god they didn't have any weapons on them, if they did, I would've probably got killed.

I've been robbed twice in my lifetime, both times in my high school years. Both times, were by 2 different tweeker skinheads with straps (guns), so I had to give them everything I had.

One Time I got robbed for $120, a bad ass weed pipe, an 8th of weed, and like 12 30mg Roxicodones. That's over $300 worth of stuff, including the $120 in cash.

2nd time I got robbed was for $80, 2 grams of weed, and like 15 10mg perks.

I cant do anything when someone has a gun pointed at me. Fuck tweekers!!!!!!!!!!!! (no offense to any of you here who use meth)

 

[Methacodone]

Ok, today I went to go see my primary doctor. This appointment was in a much better area i was good today, no fights, lol.


EDIT: Phenobarbital got cancelled, met with my doctor again. Actually a phyciatrsit, and she RX'd me something WAY better for the benzo w/d, I got-

#240 1mg Klonopin (clonazepam)

She gave me a lot at once, only because shes booked, she gave me enough or 1 month and a 1/2. That's 240mg of klonopin. Which I think is perfect, because klonopin is actually RX'd for benzo W/d, So I was really excited about that, I get to taper safely with a doctor rather than myself on the streets. Just that alone helped my depression. So BIG plus there. Knowing you're good and stable for a while, and also knowing you have a great doctor helping you, feels amazingly good. The taper plan is like this, the first 1st month I take 5 1/2mg a day. The second month 5mg a day, etc. So imo that's a great way.

#120 Hydroxyzine

I got RX'd Hydroxyzine to help me a little bit more with anxiety, mild nausea, and help me sleep better. Basically same reason I got RX'd promethazine im about to post about.

#120 Promethazine

This med is for hardcore nausea/vomiting, and motion sickness in the morning, and also to help me sleep better. IMO, promethazine as a non-scheduled drug is actually pretty euhpric. It makes my methadone/benzo experience better and stronger. I've had this RX'd before also, I used to combine it with opiates to potentiate them, and it works wonders!!

#45 Lexapro

I'm not touching this med, because its made for depression and anxiety, its basically ibuprofen of the benzo world lol. I'll save them of course, just incase of emergencies, lose things, etc. At least got something else for anxiety depression.

 

[Methacodone]

BUMP.

Those of you with experience with benzo w/d, what did you guys do to stop and become sober? Is it similar to mine? Tapering off with Klonopin? With other meds to help out (Lexapro, hydroxyzine, promethazine).

This is how my Doctor scheduled to taper me. (Remember I was on 8mg of Xanax a day, or 100mg of valium a day)-

1st 2 weeks
5 1/2 tabs a day

Next 2 Weeks
5 tabs a day

Following 2 weeks
4.5 tabs a day

and so forth...She was the most helpful doctor I have ever visited in my life, another god send to me. I was literally praying every night to help me with my struggles, and my help is available. I thanks god, my family, and all you blue lighters for the support.

Thank you so much!!!!

 

[Jabberwocky]

Lets start with, I take methadone daily, 80mg. I know how dangerous it is mixing methadone with benzos, and I don't want to go any farther and get off safely! I'm also going to mention to him how I want to taper off my methadone down to 30mg, and switch over to subetex/suboxone...is that a good idea to tell him that? To at least let him know im trying to get out of this drug world I call hell. I hate being dependant on drugs to go on with my life. Right now I cant live without methadone and benzos.

Ok, I've been taking Valium and Xanax for the last 6 months, everyday.
When combined, I take 4-6mg Xanax, and 20-40mg valium, daily.
When alone, I take 6-10mg Xanax or 90-120mg of Valium, daily.
I tried to go ONE day without any benzos, and I was literally shaking, sweating, stomach cramps, nausea/vomiting, the whole nine yards, I got scared as I was shaking that I might have a seizure so I couldn't handle it anymore and took more benzos. im obviously addicted to them now. I have an appointment exactly tomorrow at 2pm with my therapist to discuss my problems. Of course ill be honest with him with everything.

Have any of you blue lighters been through this type of situation (im pretty sure there should be at least a few people), how did it go? and what happened? What did the therapist do?

And whats the best thing to tell him to get the right help? I just want to safely taper with medical help, then buying more benzos on the street and tapering myself. Because im an addict, I can never trust an addict even my self, so I know I cant do it. That's what this appointment is for.

Any help will be appreciated, thank you.

dude, I didnt read anyone elses reply but I know I've been down this road when using dope heavy and was taking benzo along w/ it and heavy like you are, I ended up having serious seizures when trying to kick the benzos even tho I was still using the dope/opiates heavy. I ended up in the hospital and it turned out I had a brain tumor as well; was whacky shit but I am OK now; this was going back 3.5 years ago and now I am on the Vivitrol shot but I was kicking benzos and seizures hit HARD! went from dope to Suboxone, to Methadone to Vivitrol. of course I used dope in between those all too, so just be careful.

 

[TheLostBoys]

Pretty much what everyone else said, tapering down from benzos is way more important than getting control of the methadone.

Benzo addiction, & at your level, 6 to 10mgs of xanax & 80 to 120mgs of Valium is insane bro, that is no joke.......you must have some serious anxiety to have jumped up to those numbers in only 6 months.

The benzo addiction is very dangerous & IMO/IME, makes some opiate addictions look like a joke.

After you get the benzo addiction tapered down & out of the way, then you can slot do something about methadone.......

Opiates ate used for anxiety, etc by people that self medicate, so the methadone should help with any anxiety you are having.

You mind & body's chemistry need to resync & get back to where you were at before the benzo problem, & that may take a while even after you've tapered & stopped.

I definitely would not try to taper off both at the same time, benzos first tho! Good Luck!

 

[Methacodone]

Boston-

I feel where you're coming from 100%. and sorry about your troubles.

Before I started using benzos, I've been in the ER 6 times in 6 months, that's 1 time a month going to the EMERGECNY ROOM. I was going to the ER for hardcore Nausea/Vomiting, Abdominal pain, Major Depression/Anxiety.
That's WHILE im on 80mg of methadone.
I've been checked up plenty of times, to know I have no other kind of disease or anything like that BUT addiction. (I know addiction is a disease) So im pretty sure im good on that part....
That's why I started on benzos, I was tired of being depressed all the time and the depression made my anxiety sky rocket. So I decided I to go on benzos, because at the time, those are the only meds I had access to help with my problems.
At the ER, they dose me Ativan for my anxiety (They IV it to me) and that seemed like the ONLY thing that made me feel better. That's where I started on benzos in the first place.

Lostboys-

Absolutely.
I meet with 2 different type of counselors 4 times a month, 3 times with my methadone counselor, 1 time for my mental health counselor. They support me A LOT.
As I was talking to my physiatrist, she knew I was on methadone and what dose im on, etc.
She asked, what do you plan on when you taper off benzos?
My answer was, start tapering down on my methadone.
She LOVED my answer.
She said you're really committed to get off these drugs, which is a huge plus physcologically.

So yeah, after I get my benzo situation situated, I'll move on to the next, and that's tapering off methadone. And I can taper whenever, and however I like, that's why I LOVE the clinic I go to. They're one of the VERY few who carry tablets, which works way better for me than liquid methadone. Even though most people say that's a placebo, methadone is methadone. Me with experience, 1 year on liquid methadone, now ive been on the tabs for 1+ years. The pills work WAY better (for me) than the liquid,.
But like everyone should know, everyones body chemistry is different and may react different to the medications taken.

 

[MarcVinal]

As most others will say honesty the best policy & only by being honest will you get the right help!
sadly most addict lie & say there taking a lot more to get higher doses to sell or take & in my view that's toxicating not detoxing!
they may well do titration on you to see for themselves where you are (that is keep giving you a little dose hourly until they see you are stable.
if you truly want out be honest with them & yourself(we kid our selves a lot) keep busy do groups try your local NA & keep focused, remember it's a long hard road but always remember what got you to that point you only have one life as addicts we see two lives & most ex addicts enjoy life to the full once clean!
good luck all the best Stafe MarcVinal

 

[Methacodone]

Marc-

Can't argue with you there, why go to a doctor and lie to him? That doesn't make sense to me. You're there to fix your problems, and get better. Not try and get drugs off him and abuse them, that's stupid. I did the total opposite of that actually.
I was 100% honest with my doctor, she saw it in my eyes she believed everything I said because the things I was saying were true, not lies. I wanted help, and I thank god I got it.
Now I can lay off the streets, and law low with friends, etc. As I have enough meds to keep me STABLE.
Before all that I would go out here and there and buy benzos, etc. to feed my habit.
But meeting with my new doctor changed my life for the better. I got the right meds, right support, and the right respect. Everything worked out well.
She gave me a taper schedule, which I agreed on doing. Since I was on 6-10mg Xanax a day, or 90-120mg of valium a day.
She asked me whats the lowest mg of Xanax that you can take to keep you off w/d. As I stated above I was taking 6-10mg of Xanax a day, so my answer was 6mg of Xanax.
So she's starting me on the lowest dose possible of a longer acting med (klonopin) to keep me stable and out of w/d, and so far honestly, its worked like a charm..
Here's an example of my taper-

1st 2 weeks
5 1/2 1mg Clonazepam tabs per day

Following 2 weeks
5 1mg Clonazepam tabs per day

etc, etc...

So I def. agreed with that taper plan, and so far so good. I'm in my 3rd day now w/d Xanax or valium. Just my RX'd Klonopin as directed.
Taking 5 1/2mg my first 2 weeks.
My first few days have worked great.

I just have to follow with the plan and hope for the best.

 

[Methacodone]

Sorry for the double post...

But forgot to mention..

I have other meds helping me out right now with anxiety, insomnia, nausea, motion sickness problems in the morning...all that bad stomach stuff.
I also have RX'd-

25mg Hydroxyzine
Helps slightly with nausea, helps slightly with anxiety, and helps me sleep a little better.

25mg promethazine
Helps tremoundously with nausea, has nothing to do with anxiety.
This med is to help with my motion sickness/nausea problems in the mornings, and also to help me sleep at night.
I seriously love this drug.
Feels like a mild benzo but it is a non-addictive drug.