Misc Benzo before a speedball?

[IVXLCDM]

This kind of a complicated question, because it is specific to my situation.

I'm gonna try to make the backstory as short as possible, cause it could turn into a novella: Three years ago I had a (true) speedball habit. Before that was a monstrous heroin IV habit and after it was a short but intense cocaine IV habit. All that ceased completely 1.5 years ago, except for the heroin, which I continue to chip.

Fast forward to the present.... I have an anxiety problem now. Possibly from any of the drugs I disrespected when I was a professional binge-artist (my three biggest suspects: IV cocaine, IV speed, waaaay too much fucking good weed). I used to be a huge stoner, but now I can't even smoke without using a damn benzo, which still -thanks to a good doctor- 8) enables me to smoke 24/7 if I wanted to, with over 400 Rx'ed a month. The thought of using a powerful stimulant is now nerve-racking to someone who was prescribed meth, banged coke and amphetamine. Fuck, now I get jittery off a glass of Coca-Cola. I think this problem is largely psychological, seeing as once in a while I don't need said benzos to smoke great bud, and even more frequently can still quaff Dr Pepper and cigarettes in high quantities and proportions. However, the majority of the time I still want my benzo-safety-blanket if partaking in these activities. It is no mystery that psychological anxiety easily manifests into physical symptoms. When these panics strike, I clutch my chest and check my pulse like a madman. But lucky me can shatter that god-awful feeling like you're heading for infarction with the awsome hammer of Temazepam! (or Alprazolam, or Ativan or Valium)

Herein lies the problem: friend moves back. Friend dumps in my lap small bag of cocaine and large bag of heroin. Instantaneously I start drooling like a Pavlovian dog...remembering, reliving that feeling of a speedball. The best thing I have felt in my life. The only difference now, I quake looking at the potent white rock in one of the bags. Most people would just tell me to get rid of the coke and just indulge in more good heroin. Not an unreasonable answer, I know. But I am a drug addict who used to be a functional needle-junkie, that part of me will always remain. I know I'm gonna fucking slam a ball with this shit! Once at least. Any stimulant use recently has come with a prerequisite sufficient benzodiazepine dosage. However, I don't want to adulterate this supreme superlative elixir, but at some point feel compelled to now.

So here are the basic questions I have for anyone with insight: mainly, how would the benzo (moderate dose, taken before orally) affect the concoction recreationally. I know that poly-drug experiences and preferences very subjective. But surely someone has some experience in this regard. Surely there is some general trend or inclination? Right?

And by no means does that question have be encapsulated by all the anxiety issues I mentioned, as I doubt many would have answers for a situation so rare and personal anyway. But if someone does have important input regarding that scenario, I'd largely appreciate it.

Thank you for your time.

 

[opiatekrzy]

i literally cant function without benzos in my system everyday, whether its librium to xanax, most mental, but after 2-3 days im really in withdrawl and need the relief, SUCKS being dependent

 

[IVXLCDM]

Well the thing is, I am not really dependent on benzos. Normally, I barely take half of what I'm prescribed. In fact, if I was totally clean I probably be fine without them. But I DO need them for using (even mildly) stimulating drugs, otherwise there is a good chance I will freak out. Once properly benzo'd, I can use again, but I've never played with an powerful stim since this started. Then again, I have never felt anxiety on dope and can smoke sativa and hash like a champ, so maybe I don't need to pre-medicate with a benzo? On the other hand we are talking about probably THE MOST powerfully pleasant jolt to your body when speaking of IV cocaine ('ringer! 'ringer! 'ringer!)....not saying I am looking to achieve a bellringer, it's fine if I just got anywhere close to the feeling I got before. I just don't want to turn the potentially perfect experience into some aorta busting ultra-panic attack, that's all.

 

[menaces]

I mean I have no experiences with what your going through but i have been a benzo and iv opiate user, so i would say if you could go with taking half of your usual benzo dose, and maybe take it a little easy on the heroin ( and try not to binge especially ) i would say you should be fine.

but also i'm no doctor, i just play one on tv.

 

[menaces]

oh and also since you havent used heroin as much ( since you've been chipping ), just really make sure you stick to less then what your chipping with.

and always test a little tiny bit of the h before anything else to make sure you know what your fucking with, since your dealing with benzos

 

[homeydontplaythat]

leave the benzos out. you are going to kill yourself man. a speedball is already incredibly fucking dangerous. start off with a speedball, then chase the coke, and finish it with the rest of the dope. this way you always have the H taking the edge off the C and there is no need for a benzo. save them for when you ONLY have C.

 

[IVXLCDM]

I know all about the risks of what I am using here. I sometimes use arguably even more risky combinations (H + barbs being the worst, and H + IV midazolam, for example). I am no stranger to the precautions I must take. I appreciate your concern though.

After more thought I think the H will take care of the anxiety or whatnot the cocaine may produce sufficiently enough . So I am leaning towards leaving the benzo out, but will have them on hand just in case. I do not plan on shoot IV cocaine alone, those days are over, because I tend to aim for ear-splitting bellringers. My ticker has been through enough punishment.

But back to the original question: regarding a pure recreational experience, would you leave the benzo out? Do you think it would diminish the high? Any input on this (preferably from experience)?

Again, all responses are greatly appreciated.

 

[affasd]

I never take benzos before I shoot my H because for me it dulls the pleasurable aspect of the rush/high somewhat(I get more fucked up/nod out easier but it takes away from the euphoria for me). I would imagine it would even more so for cocaine. Plus like you said the H should take care of the anxiety already. If you do take a benzo just take the smallest amount possible.

 

[opiatekrzy]

for my experience, and pretty much 80% of every1 i know, really dont care about if a benzo is dangerous before a speedball, or after, or whatever else is in there system. IV drugs turned me into a walking death wish...didnt care if i OD'ed on a bundle of dope, but one thing i can say is, IVing coke or stimulants then realzing u did too much is the most scariest experience of my life, ear ringing so hard cant hear nothing, tingling, REALLY THINKING this is the day you die, and im going to leave my 5 month old son behind, fiancee, family..and feeling like i really am gonna die, as i know soo many ppl who have...so IDK if a benzo b4 hand is safe or not

 

[opiatekrzy]

I never take benzos before I shoot my H because for me it dulls the pleasurable aspect of the rush/high somewhat(I get more fucked up/nod out easier but it takes away from the euphoria for me). I would imagine it would even more so for cocaine. Plus like you said the H should take care of the anxiety already. If you do take a benzo just take the smallest amount possible.

i agree benzo's seem to dull the sensible.dull.pleasurable effects of an H high, agrreed