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Benefits of Speedbombs

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Fry-mo

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I know there'll probably be a few mixed reactions here, but I think it's interesting how things can change.
I've been taking MDMA for bout 6 or 7 years, every weekend for the past year(ish). Earlier this year, it seemed all that was around were speedbombs, which really pissed me off! I hated them.
Lately, however, I've lost my enchantment with MDMA. The reason for this is obvious...no real breaks from popping (real being more than 2 weeks) I began to feel constantly depressed, run-down and tired. My brain felt bruised, my emotions devoid...and I never really peaked...all the same old.
But I couldn't just stop popping...that was impossible for me. So I started taking speedbombs instead. And fuck, I love 'em. Instead of falling asleep an hour and a half after popping, I've never felt more alive! I love the euphoric rushes, the head fuck, the whole fucking charge. But the best bit: I don't get depressed on the comedown and for the remaining week. Very scattered, but not depressed. They're also heaps cheaper than MDMA.
So for anyone who's having trouble taking a break from MDMA, or who feels it's not as good as it used to be, but just can't go out straight...try your local bikie bathtub elixer...it really ain't that bad
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I'll go back to MDMA, but only after a good 6 months to regenerate.
What do my fellow BL's think...do you enjoy the occasional speedbomb?
 
Cause I don't feel the effects of "speed" as much as i do speedbombs. Nowhere near as much.
Purer? Do you really know that? I don't think so...
Cheaper? than $8...i don't think so again
Each unto their own
 
fry-mo...thats really sad. How can you justify promoting eating local garbage?
Aussie bakes should not be promoted because that by causing demand for this shit, youre ruining the chances for others of actually getting the goods.
And that head fuck that you love...do you have any idea what chemical it is that causes this? Prob something that can be extracted from the bottles in your kitchen sink, or maybe bathroom.
 
Your speed bombs would probably cost you about $30 on average (I don't know what you are paying so I am just guessing) but you could buy a gram of pure for around $220. Personally I would rather have 1 point of pure at $22, it's cheap and kicks shit over a speed pill. Having speed pills is a bit of a gamble, they could have anything else in them. Not saying that pure has no other crap in it, but most of the time it would be alot cleaner then a speed bomb. I reckon you should go with that if you think you like speed better....just a bit of advice.
Shit, 2 other posts before mine got in there....ummm...just read it or ignore it...hehe
[This message has been edited by MOTOMAN (edited 14 November 2000).]
 
$8? puhlease don't even start with such bs.
When you buy pure speed, and I don't mean speed that Jimmy the local speed freak has shown you and said "yeah yeah it's real pure 100% pure its amazing pure shit man pure" at 100 miles an hour. When you buy actual pure speed you know its pure speed. Pure = about 85% w/w if the chemist is good. Speed bombs are about 5-10% pure.
But hey if like the head fuck, you won't get that from pure speed.
But please for the sake of us all, and the scene and future possibility of getting proper pills on a decently regular basis; do not support and encourage the speed bomb makers.
 
Rashen_dog/king/whoever... that's fucking closed minded. I am not ruining shit for anyone. Nobody's gonna stop making MDMA because I, or 100,000 others like me, enjoy speedbombs. It's a free market, and majority rule. You're making out like MDMA is a rare commodity. It's not bro...open your eyes or get a decent dealer.
Pill testers exist, no one forces you to buy anything... and by the way mate, i don't recall promoting them, merely expressing my enjoyment of them. Do you tell people who buy acid to stop cause they're ruining the MDMA market? No? Then why tell people who buy speed in tablet form to stop? I don't buy it thinking it's anything other than speed...
I started this thread to dicuss people's opinions of speedbombs...i guess yours is pretty clear! Anyone like em apart from me?
 
Entropope---fuck you. $8 is not bullshit, and how you would know any different is beyond me. Please explain your almighty source of knowledge on my deals. R u supplying me? No. So don't YOU talk shit...
 
Fry-mo is not alone... heaps of people prefer the rushiness of a speedbomb to a lovely MDMA wave of bliss, particularly if it's not a "special" occasion but they want to have a hard night anyway.
A couple of recent threads along this line:
Loved Up vs. Fucked Up
Speed vs. Speedy E
Personally I think that a couple of bumps of decent quality speed, combined with a couple of drinks does the job nicely. A cone or two on top of that, and you can really rock the night away without paying heaps for speedbombs, and risking munching your way into a combination of chemicals you might not have realised you were getting.
BigTrancer
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I don't want to sound paranoid, but just consider how much of what you're writing could help send you to Jail.
 
Im with fry-mo. A speedy pill can have its place in a night out. I too find that i get stronger speed effects from speedy pills than normal speed.
Judging from the pill reports section a lot of others out there don't mind them either as they eat them and give reports after they have tested the pills and received an orange result (exception = motoman who states that he does not drop them due to the test result which is cool because thats not what he wants to buy).
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im just going to reiterate here for support. speedbombs dont always have just speed, or any speed, they could have anything in them. get some speed base and you will know how shit speed pills are, im guessing you have never had speed base or you wouldnt be saying what you are.
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[This message has been edited by Cowboy Mac (edited 14 November 2000).]
 
Fry-mo fuck you attitudes are not too welcome here.
There is an unwritten policy about not stating how much you get pills for. It always starts stupid shit. That was my point. I wouldn't even bother critisising you on such a claim.
So ummm, fuck you, bitch
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In future blatant pointless flames will be deleted. I only haven't deleted this one cos it was directed at me.
[This message has been edited by entropope (edited 14 November 2000).]
 
i take speedbombs, now and then. sometimes. occassionally. and when i do, i never mix them with an mdma pill, and i only take the same pills (same color, same brand, same batch) if i need more than 1 in a single night. bcos who knows what was in the speedbomb? DXM? no sir, im not going to pay for partying with my life.
speed base is the best thing to have with your mdma powder or pill. my fave method is to cut the base with abit of crushed mdma pill (like a cute buddha) and snort the lot.
when i take speedbombs, i have to be prepared for the long hours of scattered-ness as well as unpredictable come-down.
when i take mdma, or mdma + speed base, i can expect to be able to go home and sleep.
both of these are always the same, regardless of how much and how often ive done either. if u take care of yourself, u shouldnt have to change from mdma to speedbombs to get the required effects to have a great night.
and of course, these are just personal opinions. freedom of choice for everyone.
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Also:
The Perth market is largely speed bombs. The only way we have of working to change this is by making people who sell speed bombs have trouble getting rid of them
Fry-mo your last two posts have been pointless, abusive flames. If this continues this thread will go bye byes. Add something constructive and take peoples opinions as opinions (everyone's entittled to one) or don't bother at all, please.
This is always going to be a touchy subject on bluelight. People who appreciate MDMA don't like that people press speed into pills and try to rip other people off with them. You have to approach and treat responses to such a subject delicately. I've deleted a thread of my own in the past due to something similar.
When you post such things you really must be prepared to be; and capable of dealing with a little critisism
I entered this thread thinking I'd find a benefit, such as.... they keep Aussie dollars in Australia mayte!!
But when I saw such a low price up I had to say something. Part of what I do here is prevent stupid, pointless, dick sizing matches and "I get my pills for..." has been the cause of many a dick sizing match in the past.
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And when I saw your abusive replies.... thats my job too. Actually I'm supposed to delete really hardcore ones and stupid "fuck you"s, but no guidelines are stoney.
People are offering you advice stating they believe that perhaps you would be better off buying speed. Not just for yourself, but for everyone in the community. There is no justifiable cause to abuse people who are giving you advice. If they're abusing you, then try to deal with it better, else you're only doing the same thing back.
IMO The kind of apathy like "it doesn't matter if i do it, it won't make a difference" is not helpful to the community as a whole. Every speed bomb sold is an encouragement for speed bomb makers to continue and big dds to buy speed bombs (as they can obviously sell and make money from them).
Ummmm acid has no impact on this. Hmmm paper square. Is that MDMA then is it? heeheehee
Completely different arenas. People go get acid when they want acid. That is a dodgy and dirty as the pill state here in Perth. Cept dodgy acid is hard to pick. We do however have good tools to prevent the purchase of speed pills and empower people to buy proper ones, and not buy speed when they think they're paying for MDMA. This is not at a stage where every piller has a tester, and doesn't buy anything that they don't first test black. It's a long way from that, and at least here in Perth, it's no where in site. Hence we try to discourage the purchase of speed bombs... for the good of all.
[This message has been edited by entropope (edited 14 November 2000).]
 
I think this thread is evidence of a general lack of MDMA pills...whats with everyone's attitude.
I can't understand how Blulight got to a point where people were being slated for their drug preferences.
Ecstasy is a name given to a 'drug' distributed in pill form. The reason why there are laws to prohibit use and distribution of ecstasy is because of a simple health risk - not knowing whats in a pill.
MDMA is a drug. It isn't neccessarily 'ecstasy'. What is ecstasy? Ecstasy is whatever is sold as ecstasy - MDMA, MDA, MDEA, caffeine, ephedreine, pseudo ephedreine, ketamine....anything!
This is a site for drug discussion. Not a site for MDMA discussion, only. Too much discussion is predicated on an assumption that MDMA is ecstasy, for many people they don't know the difference and what's more they don't care. There are people on dancefloors all over the world who have only ever had speed bombs - for them, that's 'ecstasy'. Not a drug called MDMA.
I think when you look at the purpose of taking drugs it becomes a little bit clearer. We take drugs for enjoyment. The test should be whether you enjoyed the pill in relation to how it made you feel and whether you enjoyed it. And if you enjoyed yourself and it was a good pill then all the better for you.
I think there is a definite need for a new definition of this new breed of pills. If you feel that strongly about Ecstasy as MDMA, then people should start selling 'speed bombs' as something else...(now there's an idea for a thread, a new trading name for this nu-breed)
One mans speed bomb is the next mans ecstasy
If someone doesn't agree with my sentiments, don't get shirty
a) take a deep breath
b) count to ten
c) ...take a pill perhaps (MDMA of course)
It may surprise some of you that I prefer MDMA pills myself
...and there ends my two cents worth..KID A
 
ENTROPOPE...thank you for your sensible words...much respect.
To all others here promoting speed bombs, and suggesting that they do not have an effect on the MDMA market...you better watch what youre saying cause it pisses me off!
FRY-MO, you dont have a fucking clue. Its Aussie Bakers like you and these other goons, that are ruining the E market for everyone. Why? Well try to take in the following:
If people dont consume something...there is no demand. If there is no demand, there is no point to supply. The reason that aussie bake pills have flooded our market, is because losers like you and others here, cant tell the difference between them, and the good ones. And those who can and still eat the bakes, you guys are so sad its not worth wasting words on you.
KEY POINT
The reason that speed bombs are bad for the local mdma scene is thus: if your selling, why would you pay top dollar, like buying 100s for $30, and then selling them for 40, when you can go buy aussie bakes for $10 per 100 and sell them for 30. Eventually, people are going to stop bothering.
People who eat these local speed bombs and then go to pillreports and give them a 8/10...the reason they're giving it 8/10 is because they honestly think that its E. They dont know the difference between the crud that they are eating, and real MDMA eggs. There are so many people out there who dont even know what mdma is.
Why dont they know the difference? Its not their fault, they've never been exposed to real E's. They're the sort of people who take a pill, and fuck out due to the DXM/strichnine/acid/speed...combo, and then go around telling everyone how dangerous E is.
Get a life you loser.
You absolutely DISGUST me.
[This message has been edited by rashen_dog (edited 14 November 2000).]
 
Ok, Plenty of people keep reiterating the point that speedbombs could have any number/quantity of chemicals in them, from concrete mix, sand to baking powder.
MDMA PILLS CAN HAVE OTHER SHIT IN THEM AS WELL, half of you seem to think, if it tests purple 'safe as fuck' if its orange 'who knows what the hell is in there'. WTF?
And NO, maybe I've never had Base, but who cares. When i snort speed, i get a fast rush which dies off too quickly, bomb it and get about %30 of the snorted rush, with minimal lasting effects, and i'm not going to inject it. i simply enjoy the effects of speed in a pill more than any other methods of ingestion. And i have made caps with speed, and i still like the pills better.
SPEED BOMBS CAN GET A REPUTABLE NAME AS WELL, i/a lot of my friends really enjoyed pink hearts with a star from early this year. there were heaps around, and it was pretty obviously simply speed and filler, so for a couple of weeks, instead of buying unreliable, unpredictable speed, i'd buy Hearts with a star.
 
Crazy Australian?
You are crazy, and pretty fucking sad as well if you liked those star hearts. They were the lowest grade crud on the sydney market. Cheap and nasty.
And in general I think most people here would agree that although you can get other shit in MDMA pills, eating big name (import grade) pills that come up purple/black is far safer than taking speed buckets.
How many purple/black reaction pills have you eaten and then tripped out all night and felt really scattered and weird the next day? NONE FOR ME
How many Aussie Bakes have I eaten with extremely UNPREDICTABLE reactions? MANY...THATS WHY I DONT EAT THEM ANY MORE.
 
This is about as emotive an issue as I've seen in my time on bluelight, and one which keeps on coming up again and again. How about we try to stick to the facts, without succumbing to aggravating language and name-calling?
The main issue seems to be that "my pills are better than your pills" with MDMAphiles on one side and speedbombers on the other. One way or another, both groups of people are professing a love for illegal chemicals, all of which must be made in clandestine laboratories. Chances are, that less than sanitary conditions are present in ALL cases. Chances are, that impurities are present and the quality of the end-product cannot be guaranteed. Chances are, that you are getting ripped off in the largest way by every dealer in the chain between you and the chemist who made the product.
However, looking at the statistics of the issue, most of the pills tested quantitatively, particularly those on the Eve & Rave site, either contain impurities and chemicals other than MDMA (such as speed, meth etc), or MDMA only (besides fillers/binders). As I stated, I think, in the Loved Up vs. Fucked Up thread (linked above), there seems to be conceptually no need for a chemist to add adulterants such as speed, ketamine, cocaine, or whatever to a pill when they have access to freshly created MDMA that they've made. Why pollute the pill when it will sell on the basis of REAL MDMA contents? The only notional reason that a chemist would bother putting other things in (I know I'm repeating now) is that their pill doesn't contain MDMA and they want to add something with psychotropic effects so that people will get head rushes and the like, and so they'll perhaps think that it contains MDMA (or at least get fucked up enough on the night to want to buy more of those particular pills again, regardless of the contents). Maybe I'm flawed in this reasoning?
GhOst, you're a champion - I think that the idea of sticking to one particular pill type during the night is a pretty good one, if you're guessing at the effects, or if you've not had them before.
I think most of us here can afford to differentiate between MDxx and non-MDxx pills clearly, and avoid confusing the issue by referring to all pills containing drugs as "ecstacy". In general the term "ecstacy" is used to refer to the chemical compound 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine, and "pills" for whatever coloured, chalk-like, logo-imprinted, black-market chemical containing sphere you stick down your neck.
BigTrancer
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I don't want to sound paranoid, but just consider how much of what you're writing could help send you to Jail.
[This message has been edited by BigTrancer (edited 14 November 2000).]
 
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