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base and my little sister

I really doubt her or her friends could really afford meth at that age. However its not to say they couldnt get it. But when I was that age we would never touch 'meth' as it was the bad evil drug, but speed was ok. No doubt later when im much older realised all speed was cut up meth. But everyone I knew who tried a puff of meth felt better than a whole gram of speed, and made the switch. I guess we turned out alright but duno the diff of self comtrol at our age and 16
 
Yeah, when i was that age we never saw shards or crystals, but these days shits alot different, if they get base, they will get shards i bet, and they may have older friends who are more into that, who knows, good looking out for a love one OP.

Do ya best, one life.
 
good call on talking about your own problems with her. authority figures/role models too often forget that they cant act like they've never done anything, and showing that you're a bit human can go a long way for sure.

i think the most compelling thing for kids who are experimenting to do is to speak to people who have already done everything. speaking to someone who has already been down that road will let them honestly evaluate the potential consequences of where their decisions may lead. as a kid i never believed anything the government or teachers said, and mom sheltered me from "bad people" so i was left to figure everything out for myself pretty much....

easier said than done tho. definitely get her on bluelight, and send her to the 'dark side' forum. she'll think twice for sure....
 
poledriver said:
Yeah, when i was that age we never saw shards or crystals, but these days shits alot different, if they get base, they will get shards i bet, and they may have older friends who are more into that, who knows, good looking out for a love one OP.

Do ya best, one life.
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i still have a work mate who is adamant that speed is still amp suphate and not methamp. and said he will never touch meth, nor could he get it. I still cant convince him, but i asked to see his pipe, and i thought his pipe was frosted because of all the cutter stuck on the sides ahahha
 
To the moderators, Whats your opinion of getting her on BL and having a look through the darkside? One downside is she discovers the ausdd and finds this thread. I really like the idea of her talking to someone who has been through it all (to hell and back) but nobody in my social group fits that bill.
She has this thing for Ben Cousins, pictures on her wall and has downloaded his doco. Hardly a deterrence :!
And to a couple of the posters, yes kids of 16 can and do get this and harder stuff. She mentioned in our talk that some girls at school are doing 'shards'...
 
Plenty of people signed up to BL at 16, myself included...I don't know how old you are but you're certainly acting very out of touch with her. And I thought that only happened when you became a parent 8)

You're coming across as quite condescending, as if letting her make her own decisions will lead to her living out of a cardboard box. Many of the posters
you're asking the opinions of aren't much older than her.

Why not try speaking to her as an equal, and listening to what she has to say, rather than assuming that it's upto you to protect her from the world.
 
^^indeed.

have you not done elicit drugs before?
talk to her like a brother, not a concerned parent.

in most cases it takes alot for someone to go full feral off the rails 'addict' spec...
alot of people that are labeled as addicts hold professional jobs, in various forms DOC.

being in the loop is more than alot of parents or even siblings get, i think you should focus on the positives in that regard, that she values you and your opinion enough to be honest with you.
focusing on the negatives will put a negative spin on everything.

as others have said, let her learn from her mistakes, whether they be good or bad, just let her know your there for her and hope she has the courage to come to you if she needs advice or help.
 
footscrazy said:
Plenty of people signed up to BL at 16, myself included...I don't know how old you are but you're certainly acting very out of touch with her. And I thought that only happened when you became a parent 8)

You're coming across as quite condescending, as if letting her make her own decisions will lead to her living out of a cardboard box. Many of the posters
you're asking the opinions of aren't much older than her.

Why not try speaking to her as an equal, and listening to what she has to say, rather than assuming that it's upto you to protect her from the world.
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Im 34 and she is my baby sister. The only parent she knows is a alcoholic, passive aggressive and verbally abusive mess. I joined bluelight originally as I suffer from gad/panic disorder and wanted info on the treatments i was taking. My health issues were quite possibly triggered by my pot smoking at the exact age she is now.
Fuck yeah Im going to try to protect her from anything that may destroy her future. If Im coming across as another uneducated straight who fears the deadly 'ice' will send her nuts and have her doing tricks up the cross its because right now I bloody well am. Im in the wrong place, mods go ahead and shut this shit down
 
no need to get angry/aggressive here bro. You are missing the point footscrazy is trying to tell you.

What shes trying to say is if you treat your sister as a child and be all like condescending, and not talk to her as an Adult, you will just make the situation worse. In fact you will end up pushing her away from you if you act like that.

And she is right, everyone needs to make their own mistakes, you can try as hard as you want to stop her, but in the end the decision is hers to make, not yours. :)
 
I reckon OP has a point. I have a younger sister and if she told me she was doing meth, I'd be worried. Say what you will about stereotypes and propaganda, it's a nasty drug and it can fuck anyone over. OP's sister doesn't sound like someone who knows what she's getting herself into.

I definitely agree that the best way to handle this is to be empathic and unintrusive, but just because there are drug users here who aren't much older than sixteen (and I'm one of them, twenty, though I don't do base) doesn't mean this is nothing to be concerned about.
 
Flickering said:
I reckon OP has a point. I have a younger sister and if she told me she was doing meth, I'd be worried. Say what you will about stereotypes and propaganda, it's a nasty drug and it can fuck anyone over. OP's sister doesn't sound like someone who knows what she's getting herself into.

I definitely agree that the best way to handle this is to be empathic and unintrusive, but just because there are drug users here who aren't much older than sixteen (and I'm one of them, twenty, though I don't do base) doesn't mean this is nothing to be concerned about.
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I don't think anybody is saying it's not concerning, I've done my share of meth but I'd be worried too if I heard that my little sister was smoking it. I think the point people are trying to make is that at this stage it's a bit premature to do anything other than be there for her and maybe keep an eye on her to see if things start to get out of control.
 
Z Y G G Y said:
and don't search her room dude. What the hell is that about? She confided in you, told you when you had absolutely no idea about it. Then why are you going and searching her room for the stuff when she isn't there. Real dumb if you ask me. Were you planning on taking it away? So that she needs to get more money to get more? Searching her room and taking the drugs away will not help at all, it will only make things worse.
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You're right but you have to understand the knee-jerk reaction when you hear about a younger sibling, or your child using drugs. You just want to protect them from it.

I think it's fair enough to say 'no drugs allowed in my house' if your a parent or guardian.

Not sure how much you can do about it...I'd hate to be in your situation and luckily none of my younger siblings have gotten into using drugs. With meth the potential for fucking up your life is there if you're using it regularly at a young age...(or whatever age I suppose) I reckon using meth every weekend is a way bigger issue than some teenager who just drinks on the weekend - and I don't even drink.

Not saying all regular users will fuck up their lives but most meth users I've known have either been very occasional or gotten into it where it's negatively impacted their lives to whatever extent.

Can understand your concerns and reactions. Good on you for asking for advice and trying to do whatevers best for you sister. Hopefully it turns out all good :)

Maybe try ringing D&A or some other recommended organisation just to get some advice? I'm thinking they'd have a lot of experience with that kind of thing and would probably know best. Not saying bluelight isn't a good place to ask advice but most of us aren't parents or guardians.
 
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'I think it's fair enough to say 'no drugs allowed in my house' if your a parent or guardian.' - totally disagree! you would rather not know where your child is when doing drugs?...out of sight out of mind? just because you say you cant do it under my roof aint gonna accomplish shit, they are gonna keep using, probably in riskier & less safe situations.

'I reckon using meth every weekend is a way bigger issue than some teenager who just drinks on the weekend - and I don't even drink.' - disagree! im not sure you would say the same thing if both substances were deemed legal? i personally would have a problem if they were doing either drug every weekend. how do you justify that meth is worse than alcohol? id bet that there are many many more accidents / deaths / addictions / problems brought about by alcohol consumption more so than meth consumption every year.

OP, imo its best to keep her close & keep her trust. be there to help however / whenever & try to lead by example. Show her / teach her healthier lifestyle, smarter / safer way to live her life. im taking a punt but im guessing her situation has developed from the environment she is in & the ppl she is closest with, help her to see outside of her unhealthy little peer group.

Help teach & show her the way to a better, cleaner, safer, happier life.

GOOD LUCK
 
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headdah said:
not all baseheads/methheads are seedy yo :P

i'd like to think i'm one thats not haha.

but yes meth scene is def a seedy scene. If only bulk mdma was around. I'd be happy for my little sister to indulge in md's thats if i had a little sister to begin with haha
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just like when your bro comes home with some crystal molly and lets you have a taste... heaven...
 
Those are hurtful words IBIS. Why you be so cruel :P

anyways i had my fair share of gloating last yr when i had some mandy loving and u didnt ;P
 
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'I think it's fair enough to say 'no drugs allowed in my house' if your a parent or guardian.' - totally disagree! you would rather not know where your child is when doing drugs?...out of sight out of mind? just because you say you cant do it under my roof aint gonna accomplish shit, they are gonna keep using, probably in riskier & less safe situations.
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Couldn't agree more. Had a similar situation with my rents about weed and they said just dont do it HERE and my reply was, would you rather me do it whilst out driving?
 
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