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Barcelona: Terrorist Attack on Las Ramblas

Worth noting that these attacks have a habit of happening around voting periods.

Catalonians vote in a few months in an attempt to secede from Spain.
Nothing like a well-timed terrorist attack to maintain national solidarity.

Madrid forces through legislation strengthening central governing bodies in its stated goal of state security thus rendering seccessionist Catalans a huge disadvantage.
Liquid are they holding for independence which madrid said as usual that they wont accept ??
 
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if you have a problem with that, maybe stop doing it yourself?

alasdair

How the hell is saying stop building mosque equivalent to criticising a whole group of ppl? Mosques aren't people. Acknowledging the fact that jihadi sentiments are spread throughout mosques and therefore it's best that we don't build anymore, is not criticising all Muslims personally. What a ridiculous thing to say.
 
As much as there are many things I hate about trump and I am totally a liberal democrat. I actually support the muslim ban created by trump.

We can't let america turn into europe. When it gets to the point that you are scared to go out to a festival or busy mall you have greatly compromised your country.

I don't fear that, and we have areas that are heavily populated by Muslim immigrants.
 
Madrid forces through legislation strengthening central governing bodies in its stated goal of state security thus rendering seccessionist Catalans a huge disadvantage.
Liquid are they holding for independence which madrid said as usual that they wont accept ??

Even if Madrid don't accept it, it is a huge move and eventually will cause social unrest among the Catalonians.
They have now been subdued after this - at least for a while.
 
You should only stop mosques if you want the worship of a disgusting, violent, bigoted and misogynistic ideology to subside.
 
Don't judge all Muslims, judge the Muslims that are the most devout adherents to the Koran. Because only the true Muslims believe all the crazy shit.
The most religious Muslims will state that the moderate ones are not "Muslim enough".

The ideology itself - is completely bigoted, sexist and violent.

And one of the biggest problems is - Muslims that recognize the evils of the religion are unable to leave as apostasy is a death sentence.
 
Does the New Testament state that all non-believers must be killed?
If so, then it is also a disgusting ideology that must be regarded as such.
AFAIK it leans more towards forgiveness of your fellow man.
 
Does the New Testament state that all non-believers must be killed?
If so, then it is also a disgusting ideology that must be regarded as such.
AFAIK it leans more towards forgiveness of your fellow man.

Bible includes the old testament.

Ignoring half a religious work (well, more than half) ain't really the way to interpret a religion, if you want to be literally literal. (Literalest?)
 
Jews follow the Old Testament yet denounce the New Testament.

Christians follow the New Testament however they acknowledge the role of the Old Testament in allowing the creation of the New Testament but they do not follow it because they are not Jews. The Old Testament is racist towards non-Jews including Christians (they are technically worshiping a false idol in Jesus). If you want to discuss the bigotry of Jews that's another story. But it is one that is basically exempt from criticism or honest debate.
 
except that's not what you said. you made a rather darker - and apparently more general - suggestion: "stop mosques".

alasdair

I clearly meant stop building them. Never said to prevent free exercise of their religion- unless preaching violence
 
Why would I judge all Muslims by the actions of one?

No one is saying you would judge them all. But attacks committed by a minority within a group (and other problems caused by that minority like rapr, FGM etc) suggest that bringing more of that group isn't a good idea.

And if you decide that that is judging them all then so be it. We all make judgements of others to preserve our own safety. Our ppl are more important. That's the whole point of a country.
 
Jews follow the Old Testament yet denounce the New Testament.

Christians follow the New Testament however they acknowledge the role of the Old Testament in allowing the creation of the New Testament but they do not follow it because they are not Jews. The Old Testament is racist towards non-Jews including Christians (they are technically worshiping a false idol in Jesus). If you want to discuss the bigotry of Jews that's another story. But it is one that is basically exempt from criticism or honest debate.

Jews and Christians both believe in a messiah. They just disagree if he has occurred yet.

No one is saying you would judge them all. But attacks committed by a minority within a group (and other problems caused by that minority like rapr, FGM etc) suggest that bringing more of that group isn't a good idea.

Why? Most Muslims, as far as I can tell, are good people. Why should I overlook the good and only focus on the bad?
 
It's religion. The bible teaches that people like me should be killed. Do I judge all Christians by that?

I'm so sick of seeing these tired and weak arguments recycled. Leftism truly is a mental illness

Christians and Jews aren't going around literally interpreting violent parts of the Bible. Societies have secularised, it doesn't happen. Even the Westboro Baptist church, awful as they are, don't go around butchering people.

No one is saying judge all Muslims (in the sense of condemning them all) because of things written in a book. Im saying judge and condemn the minority who follow bad ideas in Quran. And when it comes to letting more Muslims in, yes be very discerning and perhaps apply a total ban, it's a judgement made with reference to the danger posed by violent minority. Life doesn't always have nice fluffy solutions where no one gets their feelings hurt.
 
Jews and Christians both believe in a messiah. They just disagree if he has occurred yet.



Why? Most Muslims, as far as I can tell, are good people. Why should I overlook the good and only focus on the bad?

Well it's a cost benefit analysis in that regard. If you think that the good things the Muslim community bring to your country outweigh the occasional bombing/stabbing, the mutilation and forced marriage of young girls, and the rape of non-muslim women then go on and say it. It's your funeral buddy.
 
BTW Escher's are you gay? You said the Bible says people like you should be killed.

If you are gay, and you aren't Cognizant of the danger posed by Islam, then I really don't know what to say.

I just hope your awakening isn't in a violent fashion one day.
 
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