Bali Nine Australians Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran to be executed together in Bal

They shouldn't face the death penalty.

However.

Not my country, not my law, not my choice, not my fucking problem. I don't know why so many Australians think we as a country are obliged to do something about it. It fucking sucks, yeah, but it is what it is and we have no place governing the laws of another country.
 
They shouldn't face the death penalty.

However.

Not my country, not my law, not my choice, not my fucking problem. I don't know why so many Australians think we as a country are obliged to do something about it. It fucking sucks, yeah, but it is what it is and we have no place governing the laws of another country.

Wow common sense, logic, and to the point. By rules of this thread you should be abused in about five minutes
 
I made one reference to how Australians would feel if a foreign power made sheep fucking illegal, everything else I'm not responsible for sheepfuckee, also I dont care about the abuse just once again pointing out that if you think they are getting what they asked for you apparently a cold hearted, psychopath, moron, with no soul/morals/or intelligence.
 
Yeah keep whinging dude.

It really shows alot about a person when they resort to using swear words and calling people sheep fuckers and kunts.

Nice one.
 
Bali nine execution: Lisa Wilkinson takes Christopher Pyne to task on Today show

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Lisa Wilkinson has accused Christopher Pyne of defending the Indonesian government's highly militarised treatment of two Australians facing the death penalty.

On Friday's edition of the Today show, Wilkinson grilled the education minister about why he was excusing Indonesia's use of armoured police vehicle and riot police to move Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukamaran.

She also raised the issue about photographs of a beaming police commissioner standing next to the condemned men on their flight to the island where they will be executed.

He's (President Joko Widodo) treating these men like prime catches, and thumbing his nose at us," Wilkinson said.

When Mr Pyne said Indonesia was treating the two Australians no differently to other foreign prisoners in the same situation, Wilkinson disagreed.

"No that's not true Christopher because one of the other drug smugglers left in an unmarked van to go the same island facing the same fate," Wilkinson said.
An Indonesian official poses for a photo with Bali Nine ringleader Andrew Chan on the flight from Bali to Cilacap.

An Indonesian official poses for a photo with Bali Nine ringleader Andrew Chan on the flight from Bali to Cilacap. Photo: Kompastv/Tribunnews

"But you're apologising for him, with the greatest respect."

The federal government will make a formal complaint to the Indonesian government about the "lack of dignity" shown to the pair.

Mr Pyne denied he was apologising for the Indonesian government and said he was completely opposed to the death penalty.

"The Australian government's response which so far has been a model of maturity and totally supported by the opposition in a very bipartisan way has been to be calm and to be sensible. It certainly hasn't been to try and pour oil on the fire," Mr Pyne said.

"We certainly don't want to get into a fight with the Indonesians which causes them to get their backs up. We will not be able to save these two men's lives by insulting President Widodo or the Indonesians."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment...today-show-20150306-13wyix.html#ixzz3TZ9mbyEd
 
Yeah keep whinging dude.

It really shows alot about a person when they resort to using swear words and calling people sheep fuckers and kunts.

Nice one.

I'm free to express myself however I like, you started with the name calling. I think the arguments a person makes tells a lot more about them than how they choose to make those arguments.

Anyways, I said my piece, defended it against rhetoric and ignorance, and now I paitently await news of their deaths so I can stop paying attention to this thread
 
i patiently await your ban as youve broken several rules of the forum in participating in this thread.

in that instance youll have no choice but to stfu and cease abusing others/derailing the topic simply because you wont possess the freedom to express your ignorance and unwarranted opinions filled with nastiness/flippant judgments of others character.

noone provoked nor "started" anything inflammatory with you birc. its kind of ironic that the message youre preaching in regard to mr chan and mr sukumarans case; "you knew the rules, you broke them, so suffer the consequences" will eventually return to bite you on the ass.

...kytnism...:|
 
kytnism didnt u say you weren`t going to address him anymore, do u stand by anything you say? you got owned by him one too many times in this thread :|

My view on this ordeal is that the guy already served 10 years and now he has to go through execution, this is mercilessly wrong. It's clear he's learnt his lesson, executing him would be nothing short of barbaric.
 
i stated i was no longer going to engage in the topic of australians being labelled sheep fuckers with birc, yes. and (insofar) ive been true to that.

as for being "owned", i disagree rtl. hes a citizen of canada and i am one of australia and of greater knowledge based on my heritage of what our social monikers are internationally. groups of australians are known for being classed as "bogans" and "ferals" among many other labels; but sheep fuckers? no. following my 34 years on this countries soil, never have i encountered that to be an "aussism" nor true and four other bluelighters whom are residents/citizens of both australia and new zealand have agreed in the falseness of that proposal. its not a matter of being right, its a matter of fact. new zealand has the moniker of "fucking sheep" (and their natives will tell you so themselves), not australia.

and i agree with your final statement. the outcome of this scenario is entirely wrong and barbaric and i fear what will occur as a consequence of this outcome (if played out as the indonesian government proposes).

...kytnism...:|
 
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No you definitely got owned, on several different points but go on your denial is adorable. Also you are intentionally misrepresenting what I have said. Anyone who cares to can scroll back and see what I wrote and what you wrote and what I wrote back so why even bother lying?

Go ahead and live up to your commitments or dont, it makes no difference you have already proven yourself to be INVALID
 
Indonesia executed the wrong person in mix up

Six weeks ago, Indonesia executed a man who was already dead.

The man who faced the firing squad, known as Namaona Denis or Denis Namaona, 48, supposedly from Malawi, in southern Africa, was strapped to a plank along with four others and shot on the evening of January 18, on the island of Nusakambangan.

Only he was not Denis. And he was not from Malawi. He was someone else.

After the name Namaona Denis was published around the world following the execution, the family of the real Denis Namaona came forward to say he had passed away in South Africa in 2013.

Appalled that he had been named as a drug runner, they said Denis was a Malawi citizen who had moved to South Africa in the 1990s.

His passport had been stolen in Johannesburg, sometime between 1999 and 2000. Most likely African drug bosses had obtained his passport on the black market and given it to one of their couriers — the man who was shot in January.

Justin Pendame, a brother of Denis, told the Malawi News that his brother had become a resident of Johannesburg’s Boyzen district, where he lived until he died in April 2013.

“It is an undeniable fact that Denis was our relative and I was one of the people who collected his body when he succumbed to a dislocated spinal cord at Baragwanath Hospital,” said Mr Pendame.

Denis’s mother said: “This person who has been executed is not my son.”

Malawian authorities believe the man who was shot was most likely a Nigerian who had obtained Denis’s stolen passport and travelled to Indonesia, where Nigerians are deeply embedded in the drug scene.

This was confirmed to News Corp Australia by the man’s still-traumatised Indonesian wife.

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http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/i...person-in-mix-up/story-fnh81fz8-1227251184057
 
AFP 'will never be able to explain itself'

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A barrister who's a friend of Bali Nine drug mule Scott Rush says the AFP will never be able to explain why it exposed Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran.

The Australian Federal Police will never be able to justify exposing the Bali Nine to the death penalty, a barrister with intimate knowledge of the case says.

Bob Myers is a friend of Bali Nine drug mule Scott Rush, who's serving a life sentence for his role in the heroin ring that's left Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran facing imminent execution.

Mr Myers says the nine were only arrested in Bali in 2005 because the AFP tipped off their Indonesian counterparts, and they did so without the Australian government's permission.

He says the AFP should never have facilitated the arrests in a country that has the death penalty, and it's a heinous breach of their duty to protect Australian lives.

Last month, the AFP promised a more detailed explanation of the events that led to the arrests of the nine but not until clemency efforts had been exhausted.

That now appears to be the case, with Chan and Sukumaran transferred on Wednesday to an Indonesian island for execution.

Mr Myers says the AFP must explain itself, but says he doesn't believe it will save Chan and Sukumaran at this late stage.

"At one point, seven of the nine were given the death penalty, including Scott (Rush). Thank god we were able to appeal that," Mr Myers told AAP on Wednesday.

"None of them should have been arrested there. The police had no right to do what they did, and their activities were completely unauthorised. The government knew nothing about what they were doing.

"There can never be a justification for what they did. That's why they haven't given one in 10 years. The AFP have got to be called to task."

Last month, Deputy Commissioner Graham Ashton rejected suggestions the AFP would have blood on its hands over the Chan and Sukumaran executions.

He promised the AFP would have more to say if last ditch appeals for clemency failed.

"We don't want to say anything that is going to potentially negatively influence that effort," he said at the time.

"But at the right time we will and we'll say a fair bit about it."

AAP has approached the AFP for comment.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/03/04/afp-will-never-be-able-explain-itself
 
I made one reference to how Australians would feel if a foreign power made sheep fucking illegal, everything else I'm not responsible for sheepfuckee, also I dont care about the abuse just once again pointing out that if you think they are getting what they asked for you apparently a cold hearted, psychopath, moron, with no soul/morals/or intelligence.

Yes you are
 
Bali Nine duo Andrew Chan, Myuran Sukumaran: executions may be delayed

INDONESIAS anti-drugs movement has staged a small protest outside the port entrance to Nusa Kambangan prison, calling for the executions to be sped up as they set fire to a corpse effigy wrapped in a white sheet.

Only minutes later, Australia’s Consul to Bali, Majel Hind and Chan and Sukumaran’s lawyer, Julian McMahon, arrived in a bid to gain access to the two condemned men.

They have not been allowed a visit from anyone since they were transferred to Besi prison on Nusa Kambangan island in a high security operation this week.

At about 11am local time, Mr McMahon and Ms Hind boarded the prison’s ferry to take them to see Chan and Sukumaran.

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Taking a stand ... An NGO organisation in Indonesia came to Nusakambangan Island port in Cilicap today to show support for the executions of 10 foreigners including the Bali Nine duo. Picture: Adam Taylor Source: News Corp Australia

Besi prison only allows visitors on Mondays and Wednesdays and so far the families, who travelled to Cilacap on Thursday, have not been allowed any access.

Nor have the lawyers who are now attempting to visit and are waiting inside the port office, from where a prison ferry takes visitors to the island.

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It comes as the local Cilacap branch of the Indonesian anti-drugs group, Granat, turned up to stage a small protest at the port gates.

Carrying banners, decrying drug use, the group sang the Indonesian national anthem as they carried the effigy.

“Execution, death, the only way to stop narcotics,” one banner read.

Another said: “Support for execution to death now!!!”.

Before the white wrapped corpse was set on fire, a note on it said:

“We love Indonesia. Save Indonesia generation. Go to hell criminal drugs.”

But only moments after setting fire to the effigy, it was extinguished.

The protest was loud but consisted of about 10 people.

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/b...s-may-be-delayed/story-fnh81fz8-1227250197734
 
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