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Bad trip 25i-NBOME. Help me out.

BluLait

BluLait

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So, um... yeah. I'm alone. I took around 1200 micrograms.

Took 1mg xanax..

Anybody got some hints on how to relax myself & all & end this bad trip?

I'm just worried I might have taken too much since I've seen so many cases of RC's gone bad........
That's the only thing keeping me from enjoying my trip :(
So it's not really something I can fight, I'll just have to wait and see how this progresses.


Is the xanax supposed to stop a trip right then and there? Cause I took 1mg and it doesn't seem to do much.
 
Well the worst thing to do is to rationalize that you've taken too much. Don't fight it. Accept death if it's coming, life is beautiful and so is death. You probably aren't dying but don't fight it.

Think about sinking sand.. If you fight it you'll sink faster and drown. If you drown faster you might not have had one last thought that changed your entire life perspective. If you relax and allow the sand to consume you slowly and allow the clutching embrace as your descend into the depths you might have a profound thought that completes your life.

This may have been a bad example but I know two things and I think they are related somehow.

1. don't struggle in sinking sand -- you'll sink faster
2. don't fight a difficult trip -- you'll sink unnecessarily

Enjoy your trip and try to focus on the experience. It will probably be a memorable one.

Benzos will help, if you have more try taking another mg or 2 and see where you are at.
 
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Ok, thanks. Will keep this post updates as more shit tends to happen.
 
I think this is my first real trip, i've ever had. I've only taken MDMA and very very small doses of 2c-b before so never actually had a thing like this.

The visuals.... when should I start getting worried? Right now shit is swirling around and all. I'm pretty confused don't know what the fuck I should do.

I try to focus on important stuff in my life, that's why I took the 25i. I'm going through a tougher period and I wanted some insight, I wanted to know myself better... But it seems whenever I try to focus on an important thing in my life and right when I'm on the brink of having a breakthrough and nice insight this wave of anxiety comes over me and totally confuses me and I can't think about whatever wonderful insight I was about to have because I get all freaked out & shit.

Really weird lol.
THANK GOD I had the xanax. Yes I have more... about 0.5-0.75 mg left
 
I think i need to let it take over me.... that's when it seems to be good.

My room is really realllly realllly nice :D
 
Chill out. Insight may not be where the drug wants to take you. For now, enjoy the trip. 25I is a very fun and beautiful drug. Maybe go out for a walk around the block and put on your favourite music with good vibes.

The ideas should start popping into your head eventually.
 
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BluLait said:
I try to focus on important stuff in my life, that's why I took the 25i. I'm going through a tougher period and I wanted some insight, I wanted to know myself better... But it seems whenever I try to focus on an important thing in my life and right when I'm on the brink of having a breakthrough and nice insight this wave of anxiety comes over me and totally confuses me and I can't think about whatever wonderful insight I was about to have because I get all freaked out & shit.
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That's where you're going all wrong. You're trying to mold a strong psychedelic and experience into something you want it to be. You need to go with it and follow it wherever it takes you. Maybe you will have time this time to reflect on "difficult life stuff" or maybe you won't this time. Either way, you can't control it and trying to is just going to swirl you into anxiety oblivion.

Take another .5-.75 of you're still feeling uncomfortable, relax and follow where the trip has to take you.
 
I was cutting on orange earlier and it seemed part of my flesh. weird, but cool.
 
Ah yes, I'm not really in control anymore. It's the drug that is in control.... in fact. I am one and the same... I think I'll stop writing now, this is not what I'm supposed to do. ;)
 
Oh yes. I need some Music, does anyody know any cool music for this kind of thing?
 
Maybe you became the orange for a second?

..kind of like that story about the guy who became a glass of orange juice after doing LSD.

Kidding aside.. sounds pretty weird indeed. Maybe you should try staring at some random internet pictures? .. or the popcorn on the ceiling? Yeah, that always seems to help.
 
Cool down man. Take a cold shower and let it flow. 1200 mics ain't going to kill you. Enjoy it while it lasts :)
 
Yeah well, I was wrong about the xanax. I had taken it 20 minutes before posting this and it didn't have time to take it's effect. 20 minutes seemed like hours to me anyway...

So when it kicked in it 90% killed all the visuals and trip. Such a shame, it was starting to be wonderful. Anyway, I just wanted to test it out. I wanted to take only half a 1.2mg 25i-nbome blotter but I ended up taking half, not feeling much and then taking the other half and it suddenly hit me and I started to panick because my hands were shaking and getting numb from anxiety.

I did have some moments of utter bliss and waking up today I feel that I love myself more and I'm more cofident.

I was trying to change some things in my life, but that is not the way I should have approached the problem. The reason why I couldn't change the stuff I wanted to change was because I had to change myself first, then everything would follow. If you feel me :)

This is a nice drug... My living room (which has a lot of abstract paintings and masks and all sorts of psychedelic shit - so it's perfect for tripping) seemed so alive. I realized that the living room was actually me. I was the living room. I was the world around me. Walking around my house was like walking inside my own mind, much deeper. I could tackle important stuff in my life on a much deeper and intimate level. Some stuff I found there was scary, other stuff were beautiful... The scary stuff was part of me, it was the evil inside me, the demons that I needed to banish. I realized I couldn't banish the demons by fighting them, they would just get stronger (literally, shit around my house looked evil and turned even more evil-looking when I tried to confront them). But instead, you have to show "them" (yourself) love and accept these demons (insecurities, frustrations, fears) for what they are and realize they are not doing you any good... And that's when the demons give way to beauty and self-love.

I even found out more about how the mind works.

How fear, love basically influence the way you see the world and people around you.

When I was afraid, I was seeing (my mind was expecting) everything to go bad, but because I was on a psychedelic this was amplified and objects were starting to do menacing things.

When I was in "love" my mind was expecting everything to go great so then everything, the visuals and the world around me seemed so beautiful and calm.

It's just that some filters are removed from your mind so that normal defense mechanisms such as fear have a much deeper effect.

But these psychdelics are a great tool to explore the mind.
 
yo,
id have to say maybe going into a psychedelic trip with a negative mindset can only end up in a negative trip.
i wouldnt mix ANY other drug with something such as 25i since little is known about it.
since the regular active dose is 500 micrograms... you might have taken too much to start with.
how did you dose?

i agree completely,
these guys have a mind of there own
they dont like it when you fist fight 'em
 
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What could be more idle than fighting yourself after all?

Good to hear things worked out, TS, at least it sounds like you learnt to deal with the intensity and was ok. :)

Anything you wish to add before this is being closed?

1200 ug is not a low dose, it should not presented as 1 full-on dose (like 200 ug blotters of LSD). People should understand that it needs to be more like 400-500 ug, allowing some people to take multiple when trying higher doses instead of the other way round... then stopping at least where a significant number of people report strain on heart and blood vessels among other things.
 
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