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(Ayahuasca Substhread) Interactactions

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is having phenibut with aya (for less anxiety, so i can focus more on the healing instead of having a bad - not difficult, but bad - trip) ok in terms of MAOI interaction?

what about for amino-acids.... i like tyrosine, DLPA, mehtionine+TMG, and GABA. i know at least some of them shouldn't be mixed with MAOI? but how far apart should i take them and MAOI?
 
Interesting. I like taking phenibut with psychs but I think I'd leave it out for Ayahuasca. Phenibut is structurally phenethylamine with an ethanoic acid group sticking off the side.

To me phenibut has a bit of a stimulatory action possibly cause by phenethylamine as a metabolic by-product. Unless it's been studied before I don't think it'd be a good idea to mix phenibut with an MAOI.

Either find reports of it being done before or try low doses without the DMT component first to test the waters of phenibut-MAOI interaction.
 
ayahuasca (mimosa+caapi) and percocet - any negative interactions?

.....?
 
did you read my post or the link i gave you?

pods largely consist of morphine and some other alkaloids, i have combined pods with aya before (not at the same time but within 10 hours). It worked fine for me, but i would recommend doing a trial run for yourself with a small amount of rue and pods and working up. The link i gave you (from shambles post i think) stated that rue and opiates are not harmful together, but not a while lot of scientific research has been done on it. (im using rue as the maio and assume cappi would be similar though i think cappi is even safer than rue in many cases).

you sound a bit uneducated on these drugs, no offense.
 
WTF? why in the FUCK would you wanna mix that?

Opiates and Caapi + Mimosa? This is seriously one of the stupidest things I have ever heard of! Please go back to drinking DXM or hit yourself in the head with a hammer.

Caapi + Mimosa is NOT Ayahuasca.
 
^^^ its funny that you assert what is and what isnt Aya

Aya is just a term for a beverage prepared in the Amazon

different tribes have different names and recipes for basically the same preperation

there is no one single brew called ayahuasca, that uses a specific recipe, that could be a blanket term for all the indigenous groups in the amazon and by extention the world

there are many existing recipes in the amazon, some of which are called ayahuasca some of which are called natema and many other names the list goes on.

different tribes do it differently and also call it differently

there is no one ayahuasca beverage and one specific recipe.
 
8) Shut the fuck up and stop being such a condescending douche bag. Nothing wrong at all with consuming DXM. Oh wait, you wouldn't know because you got your head to damn far stuck up your ass to learn a damn thing.

I haven't heard any interactions with opiates and MAOI's. You should be good to go. Maybe they might add some nausea on top, but who knows, you might just get some from the ayahuasca. Maybe just lower your opiate dose assuming you need to the opiates for pain. Though might just wan't to wait till after the trip for oxy if you don't have a medical need for the opiates.
 
^Wow, how helpful

I'd be careful with MAOI's with phenibut because of it's similarity to phenethylamine. MAOI"s may play a role at some point in its metabolism.
 
its funny that you assert what is and what isnt Aya

Aya is just a term for a beverage prepared in the Amazon

different tribes have different names and recipes for basically the same preperation
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Ya and mimosa don't grow in the amazon you dipshit

not even fucking close to the amazon!!!

Ayahuasca is a caapi brew which may or may not contain other native plants from the amazon... but it doesn't contain plants like mimosa which grows 100s of miles away in completely different habitats.

Mimosa grows in a dry environment.
 
haha you sound like a 14 year kid crying home to mommy. "But he was being a jerk too!"

You do know he never once said mimosa? He was trying to point out that trying to put 2 distinct substances together to be considered ayahuasca is silly considering there are many variations. All these variations have a similarity though, they all contain a source of DMT (and other tryptamines) and an MAOI.

Being picky on what maoi and DMT containing substance can be considered ayahuasca, when ayahuascas main components are DMT and MAOI's, is quite silly. The whole point of words are to allow for an easy communication from individual to individual. When someone says ayahuasca, we all understand what he means. No reason to get your panties in a bunch about it.
 
well, I use the term ayahuasca to mean dmt and maois, i really dont give a shit that it is not the CORRECT word to use (according to you).

anyway, OP i would not suggest this combo if you are taking the opiates to get high on, however, if your taking them because your addicted and dont want to be in withdrawals during the trip, take as a little as possible.
 
Teotzlcoatl said:
Ya and mimosa don't grow in the amazon you dipshit

not even fucking close to the amazon!!!

Ayahuasca is a caapi brew which may or may not contain other native plants from the amazon... but it doesn't contain plants like mimosa which grows 100s of miles away in completely different habitats.

Mimosa grows in a dry environment.
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i didnt say anything about mimosa.

i was simply stating to you some facts in regards to the term Ayahausca

i dont know why you jumped at me.

you have made alot of enemies (well not really enemies but the opposite of friends whatever it may be) around here and i have been nothing but cordial to you. dont jump at me cuz i corrected something you said. also dont put words in my mouth. i simply said there is no one single Ayahausca "title" or recipe, i said nothing of mimosa.
 
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