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satricion

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Hello all,

I recently got a hold of some DMT. I had expected it to be crystals of the kind that you can smoke in a glass pipe. But it's not crystals, it's what looks like some kind of brownish green plant matter.

The person that I got it from told me to smoke a small amount in a dry bong, pipe, or a joint. They said that a gram should be about twenty doses.

After doing some research, it seems that rather than just straight DMT, I might have 'changa', which reputedly is DMT mixed with an MAOI, which is supposed to provide a deeper and longer lasting experience.

So here are my questions:

Is it likely what I have is actually changa? Has anyone bought DMT in this format before? Can anyone give me any more info about the best way of using this stuff? I was just going to put a tiny pinch into a pipe or a dry bong, start with that and see what happens. Anyone got any advice?
 
It's impossible for anyone here to tell you if you have changa or DMT.
Some people don't go to as much effort in their extractions. You can always perform the last steps of a DMT extraction (use google) to clean to the product into DMT crystals (assuming you didn't get ripped off).
Use a glass vaporising pipe (if you need to make one google lightbulb pipe).
 
Hey mate. I'm not a DMT expert by any means, and have limited experience with crystal DMT only. but it sounds like what you have is changa.

smoking it in a bong should do the trick. Just try and get as much into the chamber as possible and then take small hits to begin with to gauge the potency. you should notice the effects pretty soon after inhalation. once, you have gauged the potency then you should have an idea of how much you need to smoke to get small effects vs. strong/breakthrough experiences.

have fun, and say hi to the elves for me :)
 
Check out psilo's DMT thread :) Chances are what you have is just some carrier material (which may or may not be a MAOI) impregnated with DMT. I'd just take your friend's advise and smoke it in a bong or pipe, with some sacrificial material on top (e.g.a thin layer of tobacco to prevent the flame from your ligther coming in direct contact with the changa). I wouldn't bother trying to extract it back to crystal unless you have a large quantity.
 
3 to the 3 said:
man how can you guys contaminate DMT with something as nasty as tobacco?

don't think that would make the elves very happy.... ;)
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I thought hand rolled natural tobacco cigarettes are a crucial part of the Ayahuasca experience.

So just make sure it's all natural tobacco ;)
 
No. I haven't had time. I was tremendously hung over when I made the original post so there was no way I was going to do it then, and I'm not sure if I'm going to have time this week.

I'll update when I do.

So, the main thing seems to be to just take it slow, and try not to let the flame touch the actual DMT. What if I put a small layer of weed above and beneath about a quarter of a cone of DMT and smoked that through a dry bong. Would that be okay or is mixing weed with it a bad idea the first time?
 
satricion said:
No. I haven't had time. I was tremendously hung over when I made the original post so there was no way I was going to do it then, and I'm not sure if I'm going to have time this week.

I'll update when I do.

So, the main thing seems to be to just take it slow, and try not to let the flame touch the actual DMT. What if I put a small layer of weed above and beneath about a quarter of a cone of DMT and smoked that through a dry bong. Would that be okay or is mixing weed with it a bad idea the first time?
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I have never tried it but I imagine that would be the right way to go about it...?
 
picadore said:
I thought hand rolled natural tobacco cigarettes are a crucial part of the Ayahuasca experience.

So just make sure it's all natural tobacco ;)
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I think it is "tobacco juice" and or the leaves being consumed orally. Often to help with the purge or to increase absorption by adding a MAOI effect. It is also N.Rustica rather than commercial tobacco. ;)

Try smoking N.Rustica - 3 times as much nicotine = vomit.

Either way, I don't think the Shaman would approve of all the chemicals and bad spirits in commercial tobacco! :p ;)
 
It really sounds to me like you are over thinking it.

Chuck a small bit in a cone with nothing else, light it, suck it and then BAM the bong will start moving in your hand =)
 
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