• Philosophy and Spirituality
    Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Threads of Note Socialize
  • P&S Moderators: JackARoe | Cheshire_Kat

Auras

i'd disagree about the physical characteristics, but wont go into that - but maybe more you either have personality or you dont.

i have decided auras dont exist, butit is the vibes that come off people, your own reaction and interpretation of those vibes that you associate with a colour or light.

but I admit I dont know. therefore its FACT!
giggle
 
well ya know
maybe your definition of "aura" just isn't the same as those people's who believe in it?

i mean...i agree with what you're saying completely, i think
but that doesn't mean i don't believe in "auras"
i just think...that what you described IS what auras are...
that doesn't mean they don't exist per se...
 
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/afp/20041018/seecolor.html

Oct. 21, 2004 — People who believe they have the psychic power to see colored auras around others may have an unusual form of synaesthesia, suggests a U.K. researcher.

Dr. Jamie Ward from University College London reports a case of "emotion-color" synaesthesia in the October issue of the journal Cognitive Neuropsychology.

"A popular notion is that some people have a magical ability to detect the hidden emotions of others by seeing a colorful 'aura' or energy field that they give off," said Ward. "Our study suggests a different interpretation.

"These colors do not reflect hidden energies being given off by other people, rather they are created entirely in the brain of the beholder."

In people with synaesthesia, or synaesthetes, stimulating one sense produces a response in one or more others. For example, sounds may trigger colors or smells, and tastes may trigger shapes.

Synaesthesia affects one in 2,000 people and runs in families. Researchers know little about its neural basis but a number have suggested cross-wiring or cross-activation of areas in the brain causes it.

In his paper, Ward described the case of a 19-year-old woman, named GW, who experienced colored "auras" projecting out from people she knew.

She also experienced vivid color across her whole field of vision in response to highly emotive words, such as fear or hate. This also applied to the names of people she knew. For example, the name James triggered pink, Thomas black and Hannah blue.

Ward also found that negative words or names triggered brown, grey and black whereas positive words emotions triggered pink, orange, yellow and green.

Ward cited five published case descriptions from the 20th century showing emotion triggering color. He suggested that color-emotion synaesthesia may be due to cross-wiring between two parts of the brain. One part, the retrosplenial cortex, has been implicated in emotion and memory.

"This region is known to respond both to personally familiar people relative to unfamiliar people ... and to emotional words relative to neutral words ... and has previous been implicated in synaesthesia," Ward said.

Ward said this region was in the middle, back part of the brain, which made it an attractive candidate for cross-wiring with nearby visual regions.

Australian researcher, Anina Rich of the University of Melbourne, is completing her PhD on synaesthesia.

She welcomed the study, which she said was thorough, and was interested in the suggestion that learning, or getting to know someone, could influence synaesthesia.

Rich has previously found that in a group of 150 synaesthetes, people had experienced colors when seeing, hearing or thinking about a particular letter, number or word, including names, or days of the week or month.

She said that Ward's findings seemed to be a specific form of this, where the words that stimulate color were restricted to people with an emotional connection.

But Rich was equivocal as to whether the research helped provide a scientific explanation for auras.

"It's interesting. I guess it's possible," she said. "I generally think of synaesthesia as different because there is scientific evidence that it exists."

She said people who saw colors associated with particular names tended to emphasize this was more about their own experience, rather than about the other person.

"One of the nice things about synaesthesia is that it reminds you that your perception is entirely subjective," she said. "It's GWs perception of other people that is coloring her experience with them."

Rich said that her most recent unpublished research had found that women were six times more likely to have synaesthesia than men.
 
VelocideX said:



"These colors do not reflect hidden energies being given off by other people, rather they are created entirely in the brain of the beholder."

In people with synaesthesia, or synaesthetes, stimulating one sense produces a response in one or more others. For example, sounds may trigger colors or smells, and tastes may trigger shapes.

Synaesthesia affects one in 2,000 people and runs in families. Researchers know little about its neural basis but a number have suggested cross-wiring or cross-activation of areas in the brain causes it.


By Jove!!!

yep - that's my aura-seeing abilities and my colours associated to numbers and music being associated to shapes thing and the tastes thing - often I do think ooh that wine tastes quite triangular or zig-zaggy.... or that cheese has...oh my gosh....I am realising I do it all the time!freakazoid

then there;s that russian girl they said had this and she can diagnose things wrong in people's bodies just by looking at them...

I think its a gift!
 
I don't see colors, but I occasionally (quite often in fact, but it is always brief) see the "glow" or the clear aura. Whether it is supernatural or not, I really don't care, or worry about.

What I do know is that it isn't HPPD, or anything such as that. I only see it on humans, not on inanimate objects. That tells me it is coming from the people, not my imagination or some disorder of my eyes or brain.
 
I can see auras in people but - and this is gonna sound so lame - but only if there is danger towards me or a loved one. Usually I'll see a very dark color - In the past, I've been told my aura is yellow, sometimes orange. The thing that I've always noticed is that everyone has a different explanation as to what those colors actually mean - I always get conflicting answers on it. Matter of fact, I think I'll go google it now that you've got my curiosity up to see the different meanings of my aura - :)

AstridAsteroid said:
Is there anyone who can see the auras of objects or people? If so, were you born with that ability or did you train yourself to do so? And, for those of you who cannot see auras, do you believe in that stuff?

I was told recently that my aura is violet, and last night it had silver streaks and flecks of green in it. But, by two previous people, who also claimed the had they ability to see auras, they refused to tell me my colour.
 
AstridAsteroid said:
Is there anyone who can see the auras of objects or people? If so, were you born with that ability or did you train yourself to do so? And, for those of you who cannot see auras, do you believe in that stuff?

I was told recently that my aura is violet, and last night it had silver streaks and flecks of green in it. But, by two previous people, who also claimed the had they ability to see auras, they refused to tell me my colour.

Yes, i can see auras. I trained myself to do so. Anyone can do the same. As someone has already mentioned, there are many books/articles/workshops you can check out at many new age/spiritual type stores (or on the net) that can teach you how to see auras.

As for the article claiming people who see auras are experiencing synaesthesia - bahahaha! ROFL :D

Peace! :)
 
Yeah its a real tragedy when science discovers something. Their research is real. Synaesthesia is a real phenomenon -- go look it up. Famous people Richard Feynmann were synasthetes
 
VelocideX said:
Yeah its a real tragedy when science discovers something. Their research is real. Synaesthesia is a real phenomenon -- go look it up. Famous people Richard Feynmann were synasthetes

Indeed it is a real phenomenon, i never disputed that. I just found it extremely amusing to read another article coming from the scientific community detailing how spiritual experiences are just a product of the mind, a delusion or illusion if you will.
 
Yeah, the pharmaasutical culture can probably "diagnose" all sorts of things as being bad from you, I'm sure they can even cure you of enlightment if you pay a certain amount a year to get medicated. One thing they dont diagnose or cure is shopping addiction, they just call it retail theropy. Guess as soon as a mental illness becaused a billion dollar market its suddenly good for you.

Anyway, isnt everyone's view of reality a product of the mind? You may have various sensory organs but ultimately its the mind that puts it all together for you, and releasing the mind with proper spiritual progress is nothing but good. Or at least the religious theories go.
 
egad said:
Indeed it is a real phenomenon, i never disputed that. I just found it extremely amusing to read another article coming from the scientific community detailing how spiritual experiences are just a product of the mind, a delusion or illusion if you will.

i find it extremely amusing that people somehow think a rational explanation for a particular phenomena necessarily devalues their own personal spiritual experience.
 
michael said:
i find it extremely amusing that people somehow think a rational explanation for a particular phenomena necessarily devalues their own personal spiritual experience.

Does it devalue it? It doesn't for me, otherwise by now i would believe god is dead and that we are just animals going about our insignificant lives until we die and no longer exist. :)

I have had enough people in my life try and rationalize particular phenomena to appreciate that most of the time, people are just grasping at straws. :D

If anything, it entertains me. :) Though it can also provide valuable insight in one way or another. :)

Peace! =D
 
Egad -- the failing in your logic is to deny any other explanation for what people see.

FACT: Some can see "auras". This isn't really in dispute.

Many proponents of psychic or religious theories simply state that their psychic powers / religious inspirations / other must be the cause of their ability to see auras.

A valid argument would argue that this might be the origin of their ability to see auras, but that other perfectly valid explanations are also available.

Occam's razor -- what is more likely? That a select few people have been endowed with some special power that allows them to detect some sort of energy field that remains completely undetectable with any other sort of instrumentation, or that some alternative explanation exists that is consistent with modern science (e.g. the observation of auras is generated from some (possibly atypical) aspect of the mind itself, stemming from known neurological processes)
 
michael said:
i find it extremely amusing that people somehow think a rational explanation for a particular phenomena necessarily devalues their own personal spiritual experience.

I don't think it devalues it at all... If it provides some benefit or inspiration to people, then I'm all for it. There's a well-known link between synasthetes and creativity.

I just dont see the need to invoke unfalsifiable speculations to attribute some "higher power" to a neurobiological phenomenon.
 
VelocideX said:
Egad -- the failing in your logic is to deny any other explanation for what people see.

FACT: Some can see "auras". This isn't really in dispute.

Many proponents of psychic or religious theories simply state that their psychic powers / religious inspirations / other must be the cause of their ability to see auras.

A valid argument would argue that this might be the origin of their ability to see auras, but that other perfectly valid explanations are also available.

Occam's razor -- what is more likely? That a select few people have been endowed with some special power that allows them to detect some sort of energy field that remains completely undetectable with any other sort of instrumentation, or that some alternative explanation exists that is consistent with modern science (e.g. the observation of auras is generated from some (possibly atypical) aspect of the mind itself, stemming from known neurological processes)

I do not deny any other explanation for what people see, where did i supposedly do that??

In my original post you can see that i stated quite clearly that anyone can learn to see auras, it is not about psychic powers/religous inspirations/a higher power/etc. And it is most likely that the process is neurobiological.

All i did was laugh at the theory put forward that people who see auras are experiencing synaesthesia. This could indeed be the case for a few, but would certainly (in my experience) not be the case for the majority. :)

Peace! :D
 
Synasthesia does not appear to be a discrete condition (by condition I do not mean illness)... some people have it to quite a large degree; others experience only certain elements of it. There is a significant body of research that shows we are all synasthetes -- we associate certain events with colours and smells, etc.
 
VelocideX said:
Synasthesia does not appear to be a discrete condition (by condition I do not mean illness)... some people have it to quite a large degree; others experience only certain elements of it. There is a significant body of research that shows we are all synasthetes -- we associate certain events with colours and smells, etc.

It may well be that we are all synasthetes, but this still does not equate to people seeing auras.

Love & Light always,

Peace! :D
 
If everyone in your neighbourhood woke up tomorrow morning and saw auras, they wouldnt be able to handle it. Doesnt compute with their current belief system. You see what you believe in some ways. I mean, whens the last time you actually stopped to look around? to take note of everything in your vecinity, along whatever route you take to work etc. Most people dont bother, yet you can get various stuff going if you train your mind to pay more attention. Now if you'd really focus on getting enlightened, to the point where you'd wake up each morning and the first thing you'd think was, "am I enlightened yet?" Well, who knows. Maybe in that near-awakened state, if you were to really look around with the notion that you might just be enlightened, you might just supress your ego enough. Or then again, maybe not. Dont know til ya try. As I said before though, I tried a meditation to see the aura of a plant and it worked. Havent seen one since, havent tried to see one since.
 
Top