AU: Police launch world-first ecstasy blitz

I heard an interview on Triple J's Hack program (Aust) with one of the people in charge of the roadside drug testing prgram. Apparently by the time you no longer feel stonned it no longer picks up THC in the tests... MDMA and speed however, it can pick up up to 48 hours later... so you take a pill on a Saturday night and drive to work on a Monday morning, you could still get done for it... I guess that covers those having a nasty blue Monday anyway haha. But i doubt there'd be a whole lot of drug testing in peak hour traffic if it takes "5 - 7 minutes".... so just don't drive high... it's fucking dangerous, and that should be deterrent enough.
 
^ I'm so glad they thoroughly researched the varying metabolic breakdown rates of whole population to come up with an amount that is "high" and one that is "not high". I highly doubt there is a reliable amount of THC would equals "stoned". Tolerance can be HUGE with some pot smokers.

Drug companies spend millions just to figure out what the half-life is in different populations (the elderly, men, women, pregnant, kidney problems, liver problems,. genetic differences, if they ate alot of fibre lately etc etc). Some cops saying "oh yeah, we've figured out what the pot "high" is and it equals exactly x.xx mg/l levels.
 
I remember the day's when they only tested for alcohol back when i lived there, ever since the introduction to speed and marijuana tests, it's becoming more and more controlling. In a saftey perspective, it is beneficial. From a freedom perspective, it's too controlling. Some people are very stupid when they go behind the wheel, they need to be educated on certain things to make the roads safer for all of us: like don't drink and drive, don't pop a couple pills/tabs of acid/snort some lines of coke and go for a ride. It's all just common sence.
 
jesus, catch a taxi, guys.

It's no different to alchohol - everyone has different tolerance , some are better drivers than others when drunk, but they have to draw a line somewhere, and set a value or limit, or its up to individual fuckwit cops to decide if you "seem" ok to drive. so it makes sense they way they are doing it, using some kind of data at least to set standard levels that get detected.

Also, i read somewhere that this particular test detects MDMA for only up to 4 hours after the effects wear off, though thats from memory so i cant back it up, and i may be mistaken.

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for those Americans who are unnaware, its not just Australians who feel that way about the US (ala the nukes), its pretty much the rest of the world...
 
Anton_Fairfax said:
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for those Americans who are unnaware, its not just Australians who feel that way about the US (ala the nukes), its pretty much the rest of the world...
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QFT
 
I'd like to know more about the tests, and if there are cases of false negatives.

I mean, X enhances the fuck out of my performance. I can change lanes twice as fast and I always remember my blinkers (sometimes I can't stand turning them off! - like killing a beat, you know).

An observational field test would be much better

1. No talking.

2. Hold still for 30 seconds, display an inability and you fail.

3. There are five types of fabrics here. You may touch ONE type of fabric ONCE, any more and you fail.

A detained subject will spend the night in a holding cell, where he will be given water and the handheld game Simon.
 
Anton_Fairfax said:
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for those Americans who are unnaware, its not just Australians who feel that way about the US (ala the nukes), its pretty much the rest of the world...
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Guess what asshole. Most of us Americans are not unaware of the fact that our government is arrogant, corrupt, and manipulative of much of the world.

In fact most Americans did not vote for Bush in 2000 or 2004. Many of us are working hard to reverse the trends in our society and to raise consciousness on many levels.

Think before you generalize about entire nations and lump everyone who lives there together. I'd think with sites like this which bring us all together, at least on some levels, you'd be smarter than this by now.

Same goes for the asshole who made the comment about nuking Australia.
 
Imagine if a taxi company sponsored a rave, or the government legalised _something_ and used a small percentage of the taxes to subsidise transport to and from parties?

There are probably thousands of ways to deal with the supposed issues here that have not been considered due to the narrow and conservative scope and practice of our legal system.

Realistically, people who drive while smashed are usually putting themselves and others at greater risk than they would be sober. It's important to remember that a lot of people endanger others when they drive full stop (idiotic kids with cars (probably many people here), people with shit vision, people who are stressed, on the phone, old or drug-fucked and exhibiting a decreased awareness of their surroundings, etc.) and drugs do not necessarily have to be involved. It's also important to remember that alcohol (and its 'induced confidence') is statistically proven to be the most lethal drug on our roads.

I would like to see some reliable statistics (oxymoron?) on non-alcohol drug-related motor incidents to back this development up. Will it save lives? Probably. Will it cost a shit-load? Yes. Could money be better spent elsewhere? Yes.

Nothing new.

Especially when you consider that Aussie truckers have been doing speed for years...
 
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Same goes for the asshole who made the comment about nuking Australia.
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Oh so now I can't express my honest opinions on the no free speech board because some drug addicts might joke about it and not hug each other?


man I wanna nuke u sooo bad :X :X :X
 
Drivers face random drug checks
By Ainsley Pavey
September 17, 2006
QUEENSLAND drivers will face random drug tests from the middle of next year.

Transport Minister Paul Lucas revealed laws were being drafted to enable roadside testing for drugs.

Under the test, a saliva swab could establish whether a driver had used marijuana within two hours, or heroin, cocaine or amphetamines within five hours.

A survey last year by insurer AAMI found almost one-quarter of young Queensland drivers have taken drugs including marijuana, cocaine, speed (amphetamines) and ecstasy before getting behind the wheel.

Mr Lucas said: "Random drug testing on Australia's widest range of drugs will be in place by the middle of next year.

"Legislation is currently being drafted for this important road safety initiative."

But the Government has been attacked by the state's peak motoring body for being slow to introduce drug testing.

Saliva testing of Victorian motorists started two years ago and New South Wales this month will introduce laws to test road users' blood for drugs.

RACQ external affairs manager Gary Fites said Queensland was taking a long time to come up with a suitable test.

"Any delay in any road safety initiative . . . has the potential for loss of life and cause serious injury," Mr Fites said.

"The urgency of it is reflected in the Victorian experience in terms of the incidence of detection of drug drivers, compared with drunk drivers and the reported contribution to the road toll."

In 2003, 31 per cent of drivers killed in Victoria tested positive to drugs other than alcohol.

Victoria has recorded 436 positive drug results after testing 21,000 people, including 6000 truck drivers, since December 2004.

Drug testing there followed a year-long trial that revealed one in 46 drivers tested was found positive for cannabis or amphetamines, compared with one in 250 drink drivers.

Of more than 13,000 tests during the trial, 199 drivers were positive to amphetamines, 19 for cannabis and 69 for both amphetamines and cannabis.

Mr Fites said results were still unknown from a similar test in north Queensland, but it was

expected to show the drug-driving rate there was on a par with Victoria.

Queensland's trial began last November, with 2000 participants given legal indemnity and paid $20 to take part in the survey.

Mr Fites said Queensland's overall detection rate for drink drivers already stood at one in 100, higher than in Victoria.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20425789-5006786,00.html

Here is another article similiar to this. Just thought i'd add for any of those interested. I wasn't sure if I should re-post this since it would be similiar to a dupe thread. Sorry mods?
 
Originally posted by Splatt
But that's what us Aussies think about America, except there's Jessica Alba there.
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=D =D aussi pride brother, Take it to em splatt... trust some fucking ignorant, arrogant, culturally insular American dickhead, who's probably never left his home town, or better yet, his trailer park in Hicksville to turn a news thread warning about what’s to come in regards to international drug testing into a "Fuck that.. Lets nuke everything derrr... I like the word nuke.. derrr":p Moron, Learn to think before you type and insult people who you know absolutly FUCK ALL about! :p
And Americans wonder why everyone hates them...8)
By the way that’s not an attack on other Americans, you guys are awesome... sadly you have some horrible ambassadors
 
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I must say that driving when anything other than completely sober is pretty stupid (although I realise there are *very* occasional times when it's unavoidable) but I think I'd much rather get into a car with someone who was rolling rather a drunk person!
 
what about the hundreds of truckers out there that have been abusing for years ? or people on prescription drugs that are way to under the influence to drive ?

by the way growfh, are you sexually atrracted to kangaroos ? you should get in touch with jerry springer and have your fifteen minutes. not that i ever whatch that show...

it would have me launching a jihad. or something.
 
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