Attacking Judges, Not Drugs

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One of every 138 U.S. residents is now serving time. Get-tough policies enacted in the 1980s and 1990s — like three-strikes laws in California and other states — have swelled the jail and prison inmate population to a record 2.1 million, according a new federal report.

Many criminal justice experts believe that longer prison terms and tougher parole rules helped push down the crime rate over the last decade, in part by keeping repeat offenders locked up. So a bill by Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) upping already harsh sentences for low-level drug offenders can only be a good thing, right? Wrong.

Federal law already requires judges to impose a five-year term on even first-time offenders in cases involving most illegal drugs, including cocaine and methamphetamine. Sensenbrenner's bill would add new crimes and more prison time to a sentencing scheme that is already extraordinarily punitive — and in many cases it targets first-time offenders, not the violent three-strikers whose incarceration may have helped to lower the crime rate. The cynically titled Safe Access to Drug Treatment and Child Protection Act of 2005 does little to push drug treatment but could do much to harm children. It would also make a bad sentencing system worse and punish judges who have rightly criticized its many inequities.

The bill, now before the House Judiciary Committee, would require five-year terms for the sale or distribution of every illegal drug, no matter how small the amount or the penalty under state law. Share a line of cocaine with a friend or give away a single tab of Ecstasy and you may join the 900 or so new inmates marched behind bars each week in recent years. Offenders with a prior conviction on almost any drug charge would automatically get 10 years. Adults who sold to minors could get life.

What about drug treatment? The bill, HR 1528, makes it a crime to sell or distribute drugs within 1,000 feet of a drug treatment facility. It also sets mandatory terms for offenses committed near schools, colleges, video arcades, day-care centers and libraries. That's the "child protection" part.

The measure is just as likely to pull families apart. Parents who see but don't report drug use in the home — even if their child wasn't present — would get a mandatory term. So if Dad watches Mom smoke marijuana in their living room, they both head to prison, and Junior goes to foster care. Drug treatment would surely seem the smarter solution for such a family.

To oppose this bill is hardly to condone drug use. It is to acknowledge that drug laws have already reached the point of diminishing returns. Drug offenders already are serving longer sentences than felons convicted on federal manslaughter or assault charges. Taxpayers are on the hook for prison costs that are spiraling out of control, and judges of all political stripes have slammed mandatory drug sentences as overkill.

Sensenbrenner and his Republican allies know all this. But furious over recent Supreme Court decisions returning to judges small shreds of discretion in applying these draconian laws, they are bent on reversing those gains. Instead of cutting drug use, the real goal of this bill is to score political points in a larger war against the judiciary.
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ED: Attacking Judges, Not Drugs

05/05/05

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So insane, I can't believe something like this would get even proposed. Selling drugs to a minor is worse than killing someone? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY!?!?!?!??!
 
I forget where I read it, but basically, by like the year 2020 or something like that, it was speculated that there would be more people in prison in the US than were free. I still can't believe that one out of every 138 US citizens is in jail....seriously, what the fuck is wrong with this country? And honestly, what can we do about it? Yeah, we can use our voice and whatnot...constitutional rights and blah blah fucking blah. But how do you combat a government that obviously has it's own agenda???? Not to sound like an extremist or anything, but this is seriously rediculous!
 
You know what I whole hearterdly support Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) bill - in fact i don't think it goes far enough.

Shoot them all I say - massive shootings, you smoke a joint, FUCKING BANG - see someone smoke a joint, FUCKING BANG.

You americans have lost any sense of rationality. You need fucked up laws like this to show you that locking people up and destroying their lives is not the solution.

Seriously it obvious half-population still don't get it so you'll need to speed that process up. Sure some people will have to die but at least its going to be shorter period of misery. Hell i wouldn't be surprised that it goes this way sometime in the future.

Something has to give
 
my God, thats disgusting, 5 to 10 for even sharing a drug, or if you make a friend put in for a joint you smoke with him, that could land you in the pen for five fucking years. The one 138 is also quite terrifying, but its even worse if you look at specific racial and ethnic groups as certain minorities are jail in inadquit numbers in the US
 
This is obvious bull shit..but so is mandatory rehab.

Drugs should be LEGAL and drug treatment should be a PERSONAL CHOICE.

In a country that's always saying freedom this and freedom that..bullshit shit like this really slays me.:X
 
I think the US drug policy has seriously lost the plot. Fundementally they have forgotten why they started a war on drugs and are just waging a war on their own people...

I wouldn't touch the US with a ten foot pole. I hope Australia doesn't go down the same path. *prays*
 
chugs said:
You know what I whole hearterdly support Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) bill - in fact i don't think it goes far enough.

Shoot them all I say - massive shootings, you smoke a joint, FUCKING BANG - see someone smoke a joint, FUCKING BANG.

You americans have lost any sense of rationality. You need fucked up laws like this to show you that locking people up and destroying their lives is not the solution.

Seriously it obvious half-population still don't get it so you'll need to speed that process up. Sure some people will have to die but at least its going to be shorter period of misery. Hell i wouldn't be surprised that it goes this way sometime in the future.

Something has to give

"you americans" is a fucking retarted thing to say. i don't agree with any of this shit
 
Attacking Judges

Uhm...nope. They aren't attacking judges. They're attacking families.

So if Dad watches Mom smoke marijuana in their living room, they both head to prison, and Junior goes to foster care. Drug treatment would surely seem the smarter solution for such a family.

Nope. The smarter solution would be to leave the family alone and mind your own business, plain and simple.
 
I don't like how the article has a democrat bias. Since when is it Republican policy to have draconian drug laws? I understand many of you think that "democrat" means proabortion and pro "gay rights", but that isn't quite accurate. Republican is lower taxes and state rights, democrat is higher taxes (or specialized taxes) and federal power, plain and simple.

We can surely voice out against such laws. However I don't ever hear of people voicing out against punishment. There are people against the "low" speed limits but I never hear about people against what the punishment is.

Legalization of all drugs is something we should push for, however it may be too "radical" of a first step.
 
It's funny that this was proposed by a Wisconsin representative. This state is weird like that. It seems like exactly half the people are rational and sane, and the other half are those idiots who seem to have not evolved intellectually beyond being intelligent apes. Actually, the whole country seems to be like that I guess, and the divide is getting wider. Things like this make me worry that some kind of huge social upheaval is coming in the next ten to twenty years.
 
No Child Left Behind Act, Patriot Act, Federal ban on partial birth abortions, tort reform, Federal Marriage Amendment, Federal moratorium on state Internet-access taxes, limitations on state air pollution control, medical marijuana, stipulations on highway funding and law enforcement funding, etc. etc. Republicans are not for state rights. Thats what they want to you to believe. Bush isn't shrinking Federal Power, he's expanding it. Thats just another thing they want to believe. As for taxes, all of Bush's record spending comes out of taxes, whether paid by generation or future generations.

And while I disagree with what he said in the article, I didn't really see any partisan bias. He merely stated the fact that Republicans are pushing this bill. Stating a fact like that isn't bias. If anything your the one pushing partisan bias with the lies and propaganda about Republicans standing for states rights and less Federal power.
 
Introspective_Johnny said:
It's funny that this was proposed by a Wisconsin representative. This state is weird like that. It seems like exactly half the people are rational and sane, and the other half are those idiots who seem to have not evolved intellectually beyond being intelligent apes. Actually, the whole country seems to be like that I guess, and the divide is getting wider. Things like this make me worry that some kind of huge social upheaval is coming in the next ten to twenty years.

Actually, in WI it's more like 75% sane and 25% fucking whack-job (that includes the disturbingly large number of rednecks up north), but an abnormally large perecentage of the sane people seem to not take much interest in politicis. Sensenbrenner is a fucking bastard with a terrible agenda, but unfortunately, he's popular (i'm not sure why) so he keeps getting reelected. However, after this past term, I think he's severely injured his ratings, thank the fucking lord...
 
The passing of this bill would be a horribly bad thing. We already need massive prison reform, some people need to fucking learn that the way our legal system works as far as punishment is really fucking wrong. I actually believe this bill if passed could serve as a wakeup call...if any signifigant amount of the targeted people got the punishments described in the article, people might start to realize what a fucking mistake it is to prosecute drug users. But that's just wishful thinking and I'm sure it wouldn't work out that way.

I think that LEOs would really get fucked by this. If I got pulled over with a carfulladrugs by a cop with a dog and knew I was facing LIFE!, I probably wouldn't hesitate to take LIFE. The more you punish a group for a petty thing the worse it always becomes. No amount of legal precussion is going to stop drug use, and past a point, which this proposed bill is nearing, there will be retaliation by those targeted. Unfortunatly its not a major number of poeple. How do fucking psychos like that ever make it into lawmaking positions!?

Although my drug use has essentially stopped due to pursuing intersets which don't allow it, I would probably leave the country if this bill or anything similar was ever enacted and actively enforced. Everyone has the right to their own god damned state of mind and what they decide to ingest. Its not something that should be decided by a bunch of fucking corrupt publicity fiends.
 
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