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Atropine to counteract miosis

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Okay this is my situation:

Im going partying with some friends in two weeks, and im planning on using opioids on that occasion. Problem is, with opiod use i get freakishly constricted pupils (miosis), gets kinda obvious.
But i have a liquid solution of 0.5 mg/ml atropine, and as i know from experience , rub some on your eyes and you get very dilated pupils.

Could it work, or would it dilate them too much? I mean, too dilated would be more natural then to constricted, considering it's going to be during nighttime with poor lighting.
 
Cuprum said:
I mean, too dilated would be more natural then to constricted, considering it's going to be during nighttime with poor lighting.
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I disagree. I'd much rather my pupils be pin-points then flying saucers any day.

I can't even tell most of the time whether someone's on an opioid by looking at their pupils.

However, you look at some one's pupils who are tripping balls on mushrooms, you know it.
 
With dilated pupiles you will stand out as someone high on E, coke etc. While with pinpoint pupils you could just have had a few drinks too many. In the Rennaissance women put drops of Deadly Nightshade juice into their eyes to dilate their pupils, so if you want to look sexy ditated may be better than pin-points.

Beware that with dilated pupils your eyesight may be affected. The solution you put into your eyes should also be germ free. That's why eyedrops usually come in very small throw-away flasks.
 
xxl said:
With dilated pupiles you will stand out as someone high on E, coke etc. While with pinpoint pupils you could just have had a few drinks too many. In the Rennaissance women put drops of Deadly Nightshade juice into their eyes to dilate their pupils, so if you want to look sexy ditated may be better than pin-points.
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And even more recent studies have shown men many different pictures of women, only a few were shown twice, and the pupils contracted in one picture and dilated in the other.

Men usually gave higher ratings to the dilated eyes!



OP, what color eyes do you have? If you have dark brown eyes, than it is hard as hell to see your pupil's size anyway.

If you have lighter colored eyes, it is pretty easy to tell, but like I've said, I can only tell when some one's tripping balls, not when they're on opiates, even with light colored eyes.
 
Most people associate dilated pupils with drug use - coke, e, meth, psyches, all dilate pupils. And because people on those are much more obviously fucked up, while the opiate users seem all calm and non-obviosly-on-drugs. Pinned pupils arent noticed as much.
 
L-huperzine can effectively counteract midriosis (dilated pupils), but it's centrally active and unpleasant.
 
im always amazed when people are paranoid about this, i would be a lot more worried about your behavior - i doubt anyone will notice or care about your pupil size (saucer or pin) unless your making extended intimate eye contact with them. there are so many natural reasons besides drug use (mood, lighting) that its impossible for anyone to prove anything anyway.
 
Ham is right. Whatever your pupil size, people will look at you weirdly when you start to nod off in the middle of conversation and mumble incoherently with a slow creaky voice ...
 
stormyweathers said:
that sounds like a crazy cool idea
are there any solutions that contract pupils in a similar manner?
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Yes, they would be the drugs that cause miosis (whereas the original poster wants to counteract it). As the original poster states, he wants to stop opioid induced miosis. These are the main drugs which cause pupil constriction.

According to wikipedia
Age

The likelihood of suffering miosis increases with age.

Diseases

* Horner syndrome (a set of abnormalities in the nervous supply of the face due to damage to the sympathetic nervous system).
* Pancoast tumor (a tumor of the apical lung), due to damage to the ascending sympathetic tract that would normally cause the pupil to dilate.
* Hemorrhage into pons (intracranial hemorrhage)
* Cluster Headaches with ptosis
* iridocyclitis

Drugs

* Opioids such as codeine, fentanyl, morphine, heroin and methadone
* Antipsychotics, including haloperidol, thorazine, olanzapine, quetiapine and others
* Cholinergic agents such as those used to treat Alzheimer's disease and nerve gases; cholinergic drugs such as pilocarpine, carbachol (Miostat) and neostigmine
* Some cancer chemotherapy drugs, including camptothecin derivatives
* Mirtazapine, a noradrenergic and specific serotonergic antidepressant (NaSSA)
* Trazodone
* Some MAO Inhibitors.
* In some rare cases, when exposed to mustard gas.
* Organophosphates

Miotics

A miotic substance causes the constriction of the pupil of the eye (or miosis). It is the opposite of a mydriatic substance, which causes dilation of the pupil.
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I will paypal anybody $5.00 who can prove that mustard gas indeed causes pupils to constrict!* =D


*You'll have to provide your own mustard gas, and stay way the fuck away from me!
 
I will paypal anybody $5.00 who can prove that mustard gas indeed causes pupils to constrict!*
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I ate a whole can of mustard and started passing gas, but all that mustard gas didn't change my pupils one way or another!
 
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