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Arguing salvia entities

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Lord

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More often than not, when I take a hit of salvia, flexible/bendy creatures spin me around and transport me to a very strange place where I am one of many workers in a realm where objects have people working in gear-like patterns as part of a giant mechanical goddess. When I've smoked enough, I feel as though I am crammed in a vent with living cardboard and rubber-based creatures that transport me toward a surreal factory-like environment. When these creatures carry me, they speak in french and seem to argue with each other over how they should get me there, how they should move me around, and a bunch of other rubbish. Is it common for the Salvia creatures to argue, or is it just my personal experience?
 
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I've never experienced entities at all, but your post reminds me of a friend who, when asked what it was like said 'I was on the wheel, and I had to wait my turn to get off.".
 
Interesting. My only experience with salvia(which scared the hell out of me) involved alot of the same elements. Specifically the whole factory environment and spinning in a wheel. In my trip I was in a factory that was making copies of me. I was being flipped over and over, every time I was flipped, a press would come down and take a print of me. There were doctors in lab coats standing around watching the process.
 
Salvia is so bizarre and unpleasant that I won't ever smoke it again, even though I have a thriving vine sitting right next to me.

The last time I did it was perhaps the most memorable time; I was with two good friends and we all sat down to partake. I went first, and my friends were anxious to know what was going on with me after I took my hit off the pipe, so they were asking me questions, but there was some unearthly presence telling me to not disclose to them what I was experiencing. As it wore off and I came back to reality, they told me they were kind of freaked out for a minute because I was looking right at them as they asked me these questions, but was completely unresponsive, and had a malevolent look in my eyes.

I have never experienced anything other than fear with Salvia Divinorum, which is why I can't understand why anyone would willingly do this more than a few times if at all. Also, IME, the people that like it are always complete fucking weirdos.
 
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Salvia is so bizarre and unpleasant that I won't ever smoke it again, even though I have a thriving vine sitting right next to me.

The last time I did it was perhaps the most memorable time; I was with two good friends and we all sat down to partake. I went first, and my friends were anxious to know what was going on with me after I took my hit off the pipe, so they were asking me questions, but there was some unearthly presence telling me to not disclose to them what I was experiencing. As it wore off and I came back to reality, they told me they were kind of freaked out for a minute because I was looking right at them as they asked me these questions, but was completely unresponsive, and had a malevolent look in my eyes.

I have never experienced anything other than fear with Salvia Divinorum, which is why I can't understand why anyone would willingly do this more than a few times if at all. Also, IME, the people that like it are always complete fucking weirdos.
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I've had entities telling me not to tell anyone about certain "secrets" such as living in a secret, metaphysical prison or that objects were alive, but I know better than to let the drug take me over. Sorry for the short response, I'm coming up on a very high dose of Valium.
 
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Salvia is so bizarre and unpleasant that I won't ever smoke it again, even though I have a thriving vine sitting right next to me.

The last time I did it was perhaps the most memorable time; I was with two good friends and we all sat down to partake. I went first, and my friends were anxious to know what was going on with me after I took my hit off the pipe, so they were asking me questions, but there was some unearthly presence telling me to not disclose to them what I was experiencing. As it wore off and I came back to reality, they told me they were kind of freaked out for a minute because I was looking right at them as they asked me these questions, but was completely unresponsive, and had a malevolent look in my eyes.

I have never experienced anything other than fear with Salvia Divinorum, which is why I can't understand why anyone would willingly do this more than a few times if at all. Also, IME, the people that like it are always complete fucking weirdos.
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I actually found that lighter salvia trips are unenjoyable but interesting, and may be worth trying occasionally, but I've since dismissed the idea. I think I'll stick with the mescaline if I want a decent high. ;)
The alcohol/diazepam/zopiclone combo is starting to hit hard, so I won't be able to reply for several hours. When you speak of salvia users being complete weirdos, what exactly do you mean? Are they really robotic or something? Salvia has done that to me a few times.
 
Lord said:
I actually found that lighter salvia trips are unenjoyable but interesting, and may be worth trying occasionally, but I've since dismissed the idea. I think I'll stick with the mescaline if I want a decent high. ;)
The alcohol/diazepam/zopiclone combo is starting to hit hard, so I won't be able to reply for several hours. When you speak of salvia users being complete weirdos, what exactly do you mean? Are they really robotic or something? Salvia has done that to me a few times.
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I guess I just mean that the handful of people I have met or known along the way that were avid salvia smokers were pretty out there, or eccentric in an over the top way to the point where it's annoying, if that helps clarify at all.

I'm not saying by any means that all people that enjoy salvia are weird, just that the one's I've known were quite strange.
 
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I guess I just mean that the handful of people I have met or known along the way that were avid salvia smokers were pretty out there, or eccentric in an over the top way to the point where it's annoying, if that helps clarify at all.
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That sounds a lot like a hippie. Any extra details?

That doesn't surprise me, considering it's strength. Whether it's natural or not is irrelevant. I once smoked 10x and (mainly) 20x every day (or several times, if it wasn't too strong) for one or two weeks, and while excessive weed consumption played a role in making objects come to life, I think the salvia made it a lot worse. Salvia also has such a weird, dark, and pale ambience that I'd hate if it left even a subtle imprint of its effects on my normal life, although I think it already has.
 
when i had my last salvia experince which has been my last it was as some people have decribed here - i was attached to a wheel that was in a factory like setting but i was waiting for my turn to die and in turn fell from this wheel into an empty void - was really scary and have the full trip report on my computer. if anyone is interested in reading in pm me and ill send you it over.

psyko!
 
I've only had one really outstanding experience with salvia by itself and that was from a bowl of 5x extract, where I became aware of the cells inside my body as individual living organisms that were working together to allow me to have a physical body with which to live the human experience, it was very humbling and enlightening, and I suppose the cells of my body in this trip were salvia "entities" but I'm not sure if that was similar or not to the factory worker "entities" you'll are referring to.

I can understand the "wheel", generally I feel like I'm in a colorful spinning vortex of some sort that is in a funhouse.

But the best experiences I've had on salvia are in combo with dissociatives. If I do DXM or K with salvia it makes for a very different kind of experience. On DXM I experienced amnesia while I was watching music play through a visualization plugin. I believed myself to be the dancing light and thought that was my existence, it was as if I experienced the "big bang" and was the "big bang". On K I found that surprisingly the K kept me more grounded and gave me a lot of control over the salvia experience and prevented the amnesia from occurring. Instead of having things just happen to me I was able to be the master of the salvia reality.
 
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