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ebeneezer_geeza

ebeneezer_geeza

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Dont know if this has been raised before. Anyway i just quit smoking after 20 years of smoking both "smoke" and tabacco (havent smoked anything since xmas).

What i noticed when stopping was the withdrawal symptoms: they seemed so like ppl i know who claim to get wd from stopping smoking dope (sorry but we call cannabis dope in the uk and i cant be bothered writing cannabis out each time).

The irritability, anxiety, restlessness, headaches, boredom, anger, sweats. Any of this sound like what ppl call "dope" withdrawal?

Any thoughts/opinions of this?
 
Definete dope withdrawl. Key thing is just keep yourself booked with things to do. When i want to stop smoking pot i just keep myself busy. Physical fitness is great at this point for a couple reasons. First it keeps you focused on another goal besides getting high and playing starcraft. Plus you might be a little out of shape like I get after years of constant pot use. You might want to find a certain hobby to keep you entertained as well. Basically just try to start having fun and realize that you don't need pot to have fun all the time.
 
^no, i personally havent had cannabis withdrawal. But then i havent smoked for ages and only lots in my early 20's and thats about 15yrs ago. I am wondering whether some ppl may be going through nicotine wd as opposed to dope.
 
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you're probably withdrawing from both drugs actually. drug withdrawl symptoms usually sound very similar, though one thing i didnt notice which is a commont cannabis wd symptom: you dont have stomach pain. stomach pain is a sure sign of cannabis wd imo
 
A year ago, if I didn't have any weed intake for three days I would start to get a little edgy. I'd also lose my appetite for the most part and my sleep would be restless (with intense dreams).

Now I smoke more than ever, and sometimes I just decide to save my money for a week and I don't notice a single symptom. After the first day I feel so much clearer it's kind of nice actually.
 
weed withdraw for me is a more sleepless, bored feeling. maybe slightly grumpy. now cigs on the other hand i'll get headaches if i go for along time.
 
to say weed isnt addicting, is only saying your in denial. its not like nicotine addicting, but it is addictive and has withdrawls.
 
Thats what i get when i take my weed breaks (i only smoke fri-mon; due to school, always wanting enough weed for the weekend and to keep my tolerance down.) So during tue-thur i dont smoke at all and well i get bitchy at times,headaches,loss of appetite but like someone else said in this thread working out is great during the times you dont smoke IMO. Also geting drunk when you dont smoke helps too(even though im not the most biggest fan of drinking)
 
freaker said:
to say weed isnt addicting, is only saying your in denial. its not like nicotine addicting, but it is addictive and has withdrawls.
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who says it isnt? I am just wondering whether its overplayed in terms of physical symptoms. I personaly didnt notice it when i was smoking 1/4 hash a day for 4 yrs. But nicotine wd for me - now that i notice.

Considering the two often go hand in hand = not always in the US i know, but here in Europe nearly everyone mixes tobacco and weed/hash to make a joint - i wonder if the wd is confused.


And Frizz = nicotine wd also causes stomach pains.
 
I think I probably am dependant on cannabis to some extent. But I have stopped for a few days at a time, mostly just to let tolerance drop, and never really noticed any physical withdrawl symptoms. The boredom definitely did kick in though, especially if I wasn't keeping busy.
 
ebeneezer_geeza said:
I am wondering whether some ppl may be going through nicotine wd as opposed to dope.
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Yep, interesting subject for the people who mix their weed with tobacco. Those people seem to get withdrawals quicker, I know I have it.

People who "spin" their weed often don't smoke, but still are addicted to the nicotine buzz. The need to smoke tobacco is higher than the need to smoke cannabis. I just smoke a cigg when I want another joint very quick after the other, most of my friends don't smoke and want another joint, but a cigg really helps a bit mentally and physically.
 
Ever since I started to smoke weed, I've always smoked it with some tobacco for spin. It's the way I was shown and the way a lot of ppl smoke in Sydney. Now I find that I dont enjoy smoking it pure green, it's as if it's too heavy on my throat, especially when smoking it out of a bong. I end up coughing so I continued to smoke it with a little tobacco even though, for the first 4 years I would hardly ever smoke a ciggerette. Cigerettes came later but then again I don't even now call myself a big ciggerette smoker, I probably smoke on average 1-2 ciggerettes a day, some days none, some big party nights 15. It's varied but one thing that is certain, i smoke weed with tobacco nearly everyday.

I do believe that tobacco and the lack of smoking ciggerettes made me addicted to weed a lot faster when I started. Been smoking for 9 years and everytime I try to give up, I fail due to bad withdrawal and I guess, I may have low willpower.

Should I take up smoking fulltime to help me quit from weed? I don't want to do that because my lungs suffer when I smoke a pack in a day or two (i'm an asthmatic and I can really notice the weeze when smoking all the time).

I definately think that part of and maybe the strongest part of my weed addiction is nicotine.

I want to give my lungs a break from all of this carbon menoxide but cant shake it off. I dont want nicotine patches fearing it will make me more addicted to nicotine than before (seeing my nictotine intake wasn't that great and so I am thinking of giving Zyban (bupropion) a try as it has proved to be effective with nicotine withdrawal.

However doing some research I came across a study that shows it's not really effective with marijuana withdrawal. The following is one study done with subjects that smoked marijuana daily. Their tobacco intake is unknown though. It showed that withdrawal symptoms worsened with patients taking Zyban compared to patients taking a placebo (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11401006&dopt=Abstract)

Just wondering if any of you had taken Zyban (bupropion) to help them quit both forms of smoking and what effects it had?
 
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I know a few ppl who used zyban for cigs only and say it worked. The study seemed to lack certain controls that could have told them more eg measuring carbon monoxide levels, blood pressure and pulse. As these are all altered during nicoting wd.

Much of the negative research on dope of late in the UK focusses on the respiratory diseases of cannabis - but virtually nobody in the UK smokes dope without tobac!!!

Just to add - when my GF tried to give up using zyban, zyban made her feel very strange and made her irritable as fuck.
 
i dont think bud has any physical withdrawl symptoms, its just the boredom of being sober. as with all psychedelics, weed enhaces all your senses and makes everything so much more fun, so when your sober your bored as hell, craving a smoke
 
Withdrawal symptoms

I've tried to cut down my weed and tobacco many times and usually end up with headaches and an insane boredom. I've tried dropping the weed and smoking, the headaches go but I'm still bored out of my mind staring out my window, coffee in one hand marlboro in the other. Doesn't make much sense to me so i suppose the only way is to quit smoking cigarettes as they are pointless. If i don't smoke cigarettes i sometime reach for the spliffs to compensate.

Chuppa chups and coffee work well instead of coffee and cigs. chocolate and vanilla kicks as, gives me something to play with to take my mind of nicotine.
 
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Should I take up smoking fulltime to help me quit from weed?
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NO NO NO GOD NO! If anything that is the worst thing that you can do. I really don't want to get into all the satistics of which is worse (pot or tobacco) but I firmly belive that buy getting yourself addicted to the cigs is like shooting yourself in the foot when it comes to trying to quit a substance. I agree with everybodys comments about physical exercise, working out helps like you wouldn't belive and its also good for you. :D

I was lucky enough to resist the temptations of spining my weed. (I'm from Oz and nearly everybody I know who smokes, spins.) It was purly because I didn't like the taste nor the what could happen in the future.

"Say no to spin and your lungs will grin! :D "

Cheers
 
i tell ya i've been trying to get off the buds for about a month now to no real avail. I think the biggest withdrawel symptom with weed as opposed to cigs is that most people WANT to give up cigs, whereas they NEED to give up dope......See Cigs are great if you are addicted to them, and they give you a fantastic stress fix, but they don't actually DO anything for you do they? So most people quitting cigs will be like...."I hate smoking so I'm giving up"...whereas a dopehead quitting is more likely to say "i need to quit because its costing me too much money" or "i need to quit because its affecting my brain"

i guess what i'm saying is the terms are always going to differ when quitting dope as opposed to cigs, ya get what i mean?
 
when i quit smoking herb (for drug test reasons) it didn't really even bother me but to go even a day w/ out cigarettes i just feel anxious and like crap.... nicotine is the only drug i have ever felt that i needed and it sucks
 
People who claim they have 'withdrawals' from weed aren't suffering that, they're just pussies.

I've smoked plenty in my life and have never gotten withdrawals. I've craved weed from time to time, but it's not something I can't control. Do drugs, don't let them do you.
 
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