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Are You A Sinner
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Luthern/protestant sects aren't any better tbh. Many protestant pastors have done similar fuck ups but you never hear about it in the media. At least the Church has been able to stick together and push through the mud sort to speak instead of dividing into over 30,000 different denominations of Protestantism. Humans aren't perfect, sometimes a few can do some serious damage to the picture for the rest of the group. The last thing we should be doing is splitting into different directions though to fit what we want to believe.
I don't feel bad, if anything I feel bad for Islam. They have had soo many extremists that go off the deep end that make all Muslims look bad, when I personally know many Muslim's that are good, honest, and fun people to hang around with.
RobotRipping
Bluelighter
^yeah i can agree with you there, Islam is a great religion, as far as religions go but some fundamentalists have to ruin it all, same with any religion i guess. I guess human nature is at odds with religion and that's what creates such atrocities in the major religious institutions. For the most part it works though in keeping order and giving something for people to hold on to, ill give it that.
Thorns Have Roses
Bluelight Crew
If we're talking the 10 commandments, I have neither killed nor committed adultery. Unless we're going with what Jesus said about committing it with your eyes, in which case just consider me guilty of everything.
I'm just as bad if we look at things from other Abrahamic religions' standpoints, or Confucian ethics, or what have you. 'twas thoroughly human behavior, there was no sin in it, though certainly some bad karma.
Surely the Peace Churches are guilty of less.
I'm just as bad if we look at things from other Abrahamic religions' standpoints, or Confucian ethics, or what have you. 'twas thoroughly human behavior, there was no sin in it, though certainly some bad karma.
Surely the Peace Churches are guilty of less.
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MyDoorsAreOpen
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OP, is this a rhetorical question?
To err is human. I aim to conduct myself in ways that don't harm or exploit other sentient beings. But sometimes I do, because to do so is just too easy in this painful world. When I realize I've knowingly or carelessly hurt someone, I try to make amends or at least remember not to make that choice again.
There's a big, big difference between this, however, and saying "Meh, it's a dog eat dog world, so I'm gonna be a dog. Whatcha gonna do about it, punk?" Admitting you're a sinner is the first step toward the humbling journey of self improvement, what Hermeticists and neo-Pagans refer to as The Great Work. But too often in common parlance, self-describing as a sinner is just a polite way of announcing that you're an incorrigible badass.
To err is human. I aim to conduct myself in ways that don't harm or exploit other sentient beings. But sometimes I do, because to do so is just too easy in this painful world. When I realize I've knowingly or carelessly hurt someone, I try to make amends or at least remember not to make that choice again.
There's a big, big difference between this, however, and saying "Meh, it's a dog eat dog world, so I'm gonna be a dog. Whatcha gonna do about it, punk?" Admitting you're a sinner is the first step toward the humbling journey of self improvement, what Hermeticists and neo-Pagans refer to as The Great Work. But too often in common parlance, self-describing as a sinner is just a polite way of announcing that you're an incorrigible badass.
PookiePioneer
Greenlighter
I do what thou wilt so prolly 11
HarrytheHead
Bluelighter
If I had to pick a commandment it would probably be #2 "You must not make for yourself an idol". While I don't worship a golden calf per sé, I have found myself worshiping other garbage, like fancy cars, clothes, watches, apartment. Trying to change that. Oh well, that is just my interpretation.
Foreigner
Bluelighter
Most of the 10 Commandments I take to be as virtues for how to live a more heart-centred life, but it's hard to convey that to people who are not already coming from a place of compassion and love. If you look at what just Jesus said and nothing else, then the Bible is a heart centred document. It's just become filled with so many political and power based layers over the years that it's possible to be used to justify whatever level you're at.
I think of sin as the allegory to karma. When your karmic action is balanced, the absence of sin means a state of grace. Sin isn't meant to be a personal record that God punishes you for, but a signifier that you are falling into disharmony with the Divine. If you live in discord and ego then you are in a state of resistance which causes suffering and sin. If you live in the heart, then your will and the Divine's will can be one, and thus you are "with God" again, and thus not in Hell.
In relation, sometimes you have to explore sin in order to clarify where you'd rather be.
I think of sin as the allegory to karma. When your karmic action is balanced, the absence of sin means a state of grace. Sin isn't meant to be a personal record that God punishes you for, but a signifier that you are falling into disharmony with the Divine. If you live in discord and ego then you are in a state of resistance which causes suffering and sin. If you live in the heart, then your will and the Divine's will can be one, and thus you are "with God" again, and thus not in Hell.
In relation, sometimes you have to explore sin in order to clarify where you'd rather be.
vibrancy3
Bluelighter
I would probably say around 7/10 i should be sinning around 8/10 or maybe 11
pinkpapaver
Bluelighter
... and fiercly proud of it
PlurPsyed
Bluelighter
I'll give myself a 7.5 with gluttony deff being the worst for me
rangrz
Bluelighter
1: Logic and empirical observation is far above YWHW in my books.
2: What does that even mean?...But I like to take pictures and shit, so probably have.
3: UUUNNNNH! UUUNNNH OH LORD YOUR COCK IS SO HUGE. FUCK MY ASSPUSSY OH GOD YEAH!.
4:If by that you mean getting high and having kinky sex, I do. But that's probably not what they mean.
5: I give them as much as respect as they earn, but I also call them on their shit.
6: -bang bang bang bang- FRAG OUT! *booooom* -bang bang bang- *click-clack* -braprapraprap- ARMY HOOAH!
7: Not even sure how that applies/what it means. But I'm guessing pre-marital sex and poly-amorous relationships probably count.
8: Usually don't, but sometimes I will if need be or out of protest.
9: Again, usually won't, but will do it for pragmatic concerns like covering for someone to keep them out of trouble for otherwise doing nothing/doing something trivially wrong.
10: I don't see what's wrong with wanting something that someone else has, so long as I don't do anything shady to obtain it. Further, I don't consider someone's wife to be their property in the same way Maserati or zippo lighter is, and being attracted to someone is not the same as wanting to "possess" or "own" them.
10/10
Venrak
Bluelight Crew
^I read all that and at the end wondered who the fuck posted, scrolled up, saw it was rangerz and it all made sense.
Yeah, I'm a fuckin' sinner. It depends on the days.
Yeah, I'm a fuckin' sinner. It depends on the days.
MrGrunge
Bluelighter
Why is this even a question? If you recognize the Christian definition of sin then you already assume that everybody is a sinner because that's one of the basic tenets of the Bible.
