N&PD Moderators: Skorpio
Are some novel compounds too addictive, dangerous or exclusive to discuss?
dread
Bluelighter
How does one then get into these inner circles, where information and trip reports are shared? What must one do to receive the trust and confidence of the cutting edge pharmaconauts?
I'm just interested.
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Just click the heels of your slippers together and say "there's no place like home"
Hammilton
Bluelighter
Heh, I don't know that I'm in any inner circle, but after being around for years and posting tons, and talking with lots of people via PM, I've learned lots I wouldn't have otherwise.
MurphyClox
Bluelighter
I can only speak for myself, but YES, in most cases this stops me. I wouldn't dare to send resp. receive any delivery with an illegal content. - Murphy
In short yes, as soon as something is scheduled it is gone.
hugo24
Bluelighter
And that's one of the sad details of this whole story: I totally share Hammiltons point of view in this respect. Rather than sharing what one has experienced, trip reports will be held confidential now, in particular if the compound in question shows an unexpected good pharmacological profile. Why had it to come this far?
It goes - I openly admit this - against some of the ideas behind forums like Bluelight, but the current development demands such discretion IMHO.
- Murphy
Yeah its quite sad but then,how many of the compounds from the inner circle didn't appear in the open later??? I guess we are damned to transparency in the internet age.
Btw Methedron is Another one clearly inspired via BL,and I must say I'm responsible to a certain degree.I posted a few small dose trials from that long known substance,mostly nostalgia driven,but I included all caveats.Some kind it wonders me that only 2-3 experiments actually inspires one to take it up!
But I'm still very ambivalent about that 3-MeO-PCP story,has it really already taken up by a vendor?And what if I wrote a use patent 
? Hey,its actually a known compound and is even on erowid but the sources cited appear not to think its anything special.
Now that its in the open anyway I can only try to it not becoming a "Sorgenkind".Clearly curiousity overpowered all doubts on this side,and maybe that means it just HAD to be discovered-there are things you CAN'T keep for yourself it just has such a power.As usual in such cases there are a few disturbing things surrounding it but I'm leaving that out now.Of course everything has two sides as we are all painfully aware.Nothing progresses easy in this world...
vecktors demonstrative cynism tells me he in fact wants to be convinced of the opposite too, that he wants hope.And here comes the harm reduction in play again,I mean either you (directed at all now) believe in it and do your part for it, or not, and abandon BL and drugs and pharmaceuticals.That it will do only harm is painting black,actually I think it might do many very valuable things aka self development,therapeutic breakthroughs etc..If its suitable as a simple and broad recreational drug with all its associated consequences remains to be seen,frankly, I have my doubts.
Is there a way for privates to give it to a receptor screening ?
MurphyClox
Bluelighter
As far as I know - Yes!
Nagelfar
Bluelight Crew
This attention brought to the worry over the one substance initially raised probably garnered more interest in it than skipping by it and just hoping nothing came out of it and no more further elaborated.
Though the specific class of drug originally mentioned is not an easy synth.. not like methamphetamine or such. Alternate, more synthetic routes are probably more likely to grab the pure profiteer's attention. The phenethylamines are always loved in terms of synth the black market moneymakers.
Tropanes and complex plant type with usually organically grown bits are not done from scratch and, and there's no profit in the loss that would come from starting from the active tropane plant chemical (unless you can start it from another inactive plant, but that's another story); those drug cartels harvest and have what they need to extract and harvest and get it out there; and there they stop....... ..... The labs of the, e. g. MDMA-type chemist, and such are much differently cut from a different mold completely. As a type of mindset person wanting to propagate, and with intent for level of profit margin.
Anyway, maybe the attention would do good and a less harmful substance takes the attention of addicts in destructive cycles to less destructive less financially destructive synth takes hold; if a synth out there comes out of it, as a harm reduction site we can at least hope good may take sway and we can think we, on some level in the back of our minds, made it better rather than worse; even though in principle we wish to be responsible for no such illicit or illegal activity, if such must transpire, if we turned an illegitimate activity off course to a illegitimate activity but one that is a boon to the health of others. That is bettering the world and softening the blow to those already taken into the dark world of drugs and addiction.
nuke
Bluelighter
hamhurricane
Bluelighter
^^^
that hilarious, i just stumbled upon the exact same page while frantically searching "3-meo-pcp" on google after hammiltons last post
hugo24
Bluelighter
Imagine, after a few doses they will put aside the baseball caps,preach Love(Machine) and become Buddhists enjoying a better life 
And too bad if the vendors chose 3-MeO-PCP so fast,they've better waited for 3-MeO-PCE...
djsim
Bluelight Crew
My 2 cents;
ADD could be like other drugs forums which talk about "theoretical" chemical synths of meth and whatnot, which we all know is a recipe for disaster. Not many people are educated enough to be able to read thru journal articles and draw conclusions, so when people like Hammilton and the rest of the ADD crew make these interpretations and share them here, it is almost as good as Cliff Notes for those people looking for the next big RC to make a quick buck off.
And the worst part? The shady practises of those people get linked with us here at BL, since we all know how the media and Feds love to make someone pay... and often it's the place that "came up with the concept".
Hammilton
Bluelighter
Exactly. Don't get me wrong, though, some of these guys are quite bright, but they're not selling stuff they thought of on their own- they want to sell things that already have had discussion, because those discussions are advertisements.
No one is selling (E)-5-(but-2-en-2-yl)-5-sec-butyl-2-thioxodihydropyrimidine-4,6(1H,5H)-dione even though it'd be a kickass depressant and it's pretty novel (all of the thio analogues I'm aware of have no oxygen atoms at all).
There are all sorts of stuff that would make for great recreational psychoactives that aren't being marketed only because no one knows what they are.
