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RCs are noids safe?

We don't know for sure, and that's the whole problem with RC's. We are the guinea pigs for them an they will hopefully stop making the ones that people commonly report having bad effects from.

Edit: Oh, and please use regular drug names and terms instead of slang. I'm sure that half the people reading the title are skipping over the thread since they have no idea what you mean, and you don't elaborate at all in your post either.
 
No. They can make your pizza late, soggy & taste like cardboard.
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oh man, old schooool. avoid the noids.

seriously - the dose makes the poison. most of these synthetic cannabinoids are fine if used in small/moderate doses, which most people are ill-equipped to measure. THC itself is pretty safe in OD. but some of the fullagonist synthetic cannabinoids like the JWH series & many new "designer" cannabinoids are known for causing extreme paranoia, seizures, even death. be careful.
 
this may seem redundant but i just totally realized noid= cannabinoid. and synth noid=synthetic cannabinoids...lol
 
Well jwh can give you mad anxiety.
I've had the heart beating out of your chest feeling almost everytime.
No cannabinol and that's what you get I guess, I personally hated the shit.
 
None have many studies confirming their safety, some have some bad side effects (usually on overdose) reported by many people. some have addiction reported by some users (usually after heavy use), some have possible toxic metabolites (not sure if confirmed or just speculated by metabolism of similar compounds).

Make of it what you will.
 
well don't smoke blends that you don't make yourself.

Synthetic cannaboids (synth noids for you kids) are relatively safe but by no means completely safe. It also depends on which ones you're talking about. I only say relatively safe because there haven't been many deaths attributed to them as a whole and considering how sketchy the shit is they sell out there, it's surprising. if the NBOMes have more deaths on their hands than synth noids all together, then i'd say they are relatively safe in comparison.

if you don't have an extremely accurate scale and don't know how to make blends properly or how to liquid dose then just stay away from them, you'll just give yourself a panic attack at best. DO NOT SMOKE PREMADE BLENDS. If you must try them get the pure compound and know what you are doing.
 
RobotRipping said:
well don't smoke blends that you don't make yourself.

Synthetic cannaboids (synth noids for you kids) are relatively safe but by no means completely safe. It also depends on which ones you're talking about. I only say relatively safe because there haven't been many deaths attributed to them as a whole and considering how sketchy the shit is they sell out there, it's surprising. if the NBOMes have more deaths on their hands than synth noids all together, then i'd say they are relatively safe in comparison.

if you don't have an extremely accurate scale and don't know how to make blends properly or how to liquid dose then just stay away from them, you'll just give yourself a panic attack at best. DO NOT SMOKE PREMADE BLENDS. If you must try them get the pure compound and know what you are doing.
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why no premade blends? i completely understand that if they don't disclose what goes into their blends, anything could be in there. Personally, I think it's being a little paranoid to assume that vendors are spraying PCP or MDPV on everything.

after my experience with a premade though i'm kinda underwhelmed. is exactly like being blazed but missing the euphoria. why are the effects of weed so inimitable w/ chems? they should've got it right by now at least.
 
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RobotRipping said:
well don't smoke blends that you don't make yourself.

Synthetic cannaboids (synth noids for you kids) are relatively safe but by no means completely safe. It also depends on which ones you're talking about. I only say relatively safe because there haven't been many deaths attributed to them as a whole and considering how sketchy the shit is they sell out there, it's surprising. if the NBOMes have more deaths on their hands than synth noids all together, then i'd say they are relatively safe in comparison.

if you don't have an extremely accurate scale and don't know how to make blends properly or how to liquid dose then just stay away from them, you'll just give yourself a panic attack at best. DO NOT SMOKE PREMADE BLENDS. If you must try them get the pure compound and know what you are doing.
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why no premade blends? i completely understand that if they don't disclose what goes into their blends, anything could be in there. Personally, I think it's being a little paranoid to assume that vendors are spraying PCP or MDPV on everything.

after my experience w/ a premade though i'm kinda underwhelmed. the feeling is exactly like being blazed but missing the euphoria. why are the effects of weed so inimitable w/ chems? they should've got it right by now at least.

crazycatman said:
None have many studies confirming their safety, some have some bad side effects (usually on overdose) reported by many people. some have addiction reported by some users (usually after heavy use), some have possible toxic metabolites (not sure if confirmed or just speculated by metabolism of similar compounds).

Make of it what you will.
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that's definitely not encouraging.
 
Yes, if I remember correctly there were threads about it here on bluelight, Advanced Drug Discussion board probably. If you want to read more about it.
 
I reckon the entire synthetic cannabinoid industry has gone to the fucking dogs personally.

I really do not much care for the trend of using carboxylate ester or carboxamide linkers on an indazole core, they all seem to have one thing in common, being really really short acting.

That said, I have noted that at least the local head shop only stocks blend products that DO disclose the ingredient list, and how much of it per unit quantity of the bulk substrate, which is a good thing.

Although I do miss the old days, when the likes of HU-210, CP-55-940 and derivatives were going around, I liked being able to not bother smoking another bong for most of a day. In the case of the above two, I actually prefer them to weed.

One thing that worries me though, is that some day, some genius is going to end up synthing and releasing something with a fluoroalkyl substituent other than pentyl, something with an even numbered carbon chain that is likely to metabolize to fluoroacetate (aka 1080, a nasty, highly potent respiratory toxin, used as a pesticide, and damn near impossible to treat) and people are going to end up either dying, or horribly maimed.
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
I reckon the entire synthetic cannabinoid industry has gone to the fucking dogs personally.

I really do not much care for the trend of using carboxylate ester or carboxamide linkers on an indazole core, they all seem to have one thing in common, being really really short acting.

That said, I have noted that at least the local head shop only stocks blend products that DO disclose the ingredient list, and how much of it per unit quantity of the bulk substrate, which is a good thing.

Although I do miss the old days, when the likes of HU-210, CP-55-940 and derivatives were going around, I liked being able to not bother smoking another bong for most of a day. In the case of the above two, I actually prefer them to weed.

One thing that worries me though, is that some day, some genius is going to end up synthing and releasing something with a fluoroalkyl substituent other than pentyl, something with an even numbered carbon chain that is likely to metabolize to fluoroacetate (aka 1080, a nasty, highly potent respiratory toxin, used as a pesticide, and damn near impossible to treat) and people are going to end up either dying, or horribly maimed.
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thanks for being honest. wasn't there already a fluoroacetate scare here with uh.... am-xxxx can't remember?
i reckon reading that it wasn't readily metabolized by humans, and so the toxicity is rendered negligible. this is going off vague memory though, so I could be talking pure bs.
 
no, i have known 3 people who had seizures from noids . does that sound safe?

part of the reason that make them so unsafe for the average person is because they come in powder form and the average dose is in the mg range, it would be like trying to dose fentenyl in powdered form. most noids are full agonist to CBD receptors while marijuana is only a partial agonist.
 
Hmmm. I don't seem to experience the OD symptoms that people refer to, at least not yet anyway.
There seems to be a "ceiling" in effects, I went through .5g of JWH-018 in a few days!
Same with UR-144 from a different vendor.
Maybe my material has not been pure enough...
 
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