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Kratom Are 7-hydroxymitragynine pills any good??

koogs3762

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So I’ve been using bluelight since I was a kid but this is my first time ever posting cause I’ve found somebody who says they have 7-hydroxymitragynine pills and I just want to know if anybody knows the effects of them? I’ve done kratom before and I have a small opiate tolerance 15-35 mg oxycodone a day and I just wanna know if the 7-HM is similar or if I could get a good nod safely off of it or what the side effects would be if anybody has any experience to share with me I’d really appreciate it. The pills are 30 mg and also contain red-OH whatever that is lol.
 
Hey guys. This thread as it stands isn't really a good fit for the HR forums. It's an open-ended question and it is seeking the opinions of other people as opposed to trying to address a specific Harm Reduction issue. We can definitely have threads about Mitragynine, they just need to be something capable of being answered.

If you want to make another thread, please feel free. Just try your best to make the discussion objective/scientific/academic. Opinions and other more casual stuff typically goes to our Drug Culture sub-forum which is a cool one if you haven't yet checked it out.

If you're hoping for help with validation/testing of a specific substance, it's just not something that we can do in any way, shape or form. The only way to answer these questions in any useful sense is to have the substance tested.

With that being said, I know that this Mitragynine analog as well as others have been sold. Most stories I read speak of an fairly easy ordering process and little worry regarding the quality of the material

So yes, 7-Hydroxymitragynine is sold in different places. It seems to be significantly stronger than its parent compound. If you enjoy Kratom/Mitragynine, then it's something you will probably like.

As far as the dosage is concerned, my advice would be to take a couple and see. In the realm of mysterious substances, that's all you can do. It is nice that they are standard dosage units. After your test run today, you will have some metrics to help you decide what is the right dose for you.
 
Without tolerance?

Low - 1-1.5mg
Medium - 2mg-3mg
High - 5mg


Just my experience. It also shines a lot more if added to a bit of kratom. You really don't need much.

And yes, it is amazing for pain and sleep. However, it's not really that euphoric by itself. It's not stimulating at all.
 
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Also, don't believe dosages on various sketchy products... 7-OH is extremely potent. 30mg is a substantial overdose. 15mg is also too much.

7-OH is about 3x more potent than oxycodone by dose IMO.
 
Also, don't believe dosages on various sketchy products... 7-OH is extremely potent. 30mg is a substantial overdose. 15mg is also too much.

7-OH is about 3x more potent than oxycodone by dose IMO.
I just got some chewable grape 15mg 7-OH tablets… how real or true to the ingredients are these? Is packaging info even semi correct? I’m new to the 7-oh game and don't want to over do it as my raw powder tolerance is pretty low like 4-8gs per dose 2 x per week (SE7EN is the company these are).
 
how real or true to the ingredients are these?
Almost never.

Is packaging info even semi correct?
It may be correct in the trivially basic sense that it might contain 7-OH, but no, the packaging and dosage info is likely wildly inaccurate or even outright false.

my raw powder tolerance is pretty low like 4-8gs per dose 2 x per week
Only 2 times per week?

Even if you were taking 30g PER DAY, you would still feel 7-OH. It's magnitudes more potent of an opioid than everything contained in kratom powder and mitragynine itself. I am speaking from experience, as well.

If you were only dosing kratom 2 times per week, you would only need 2-3mg of real 7-OH to have very pronounced and strong effect.

The majority of these vape shop/gas station 7-OH shots or gummies contain much less than they claim, or none at all.

15mg of 7-OH would put you ass up, you would be nodding and extremely sedated... like a true hard opioid.

The good news is that even if you take too much, it won't kill you, you'll just feel way too high in a bad way for several hours.

Also, pro tip: It's best to combine with a little bit of kratom itself. 7-OH is a potent opioid, but is incredibly lacking in the mental euphoria other kratom alkaloids give. I've actually gone through kratom withdrawals from switching from powder to only pure 7-OH. (the non-opioid related withdrawals, mainly depression and lethargy).

There is one specific reputable company that sells pills that only contain 7-OH. I noticed in the last few months, there are now 15+ other companies trying to replicate their product, but a lot of them are probably bullshit scams and contain nothing more than mitragynine.
 
Almost never.


It may be correct in the trivially basic sense that it might contain 7-OH, but no, the packaging and dosage info is likely wildly inaccurate or even outright false.


Only 2 times per week?

Even if you were taking 30g PER DAY, you would still feel 7-OH. It's magnitudes more potent of an opioid than everything contained in kratom powder and mitragynine itself. I am speaking from experience, as well.

If you were only dosing kratom 2 times per week, you would only need 2-3mg of real 7-OH to have very pronounced and strong effect.

The majority of these vape shop/gas station 7-OH shots or gummies contain much less than they claim, or none at all.

15mg of 7-OH would put you ass up, you would be nodding and extremely sedated... like a true hard opioid.

The good news is that even if you take too much, it won't kill you, you'll just feel way too high in a bad way for several hours.

Also, pro tip: It's best to combine with a little bit of kratom itself. 7-OH is a potent opioid, but is incredibly lacking in the mental euphoria other kratom alkaloids give. I've actually gone through kratom withdrawals from switching from powder to only pure 7-OH. (the non-opioid related withdrawals, mainly depression and lethargy).

There is one specific reputable company that sells pills that only contain 7-OH. I noticed in the last few months, there are now 15+ other companies trying to replicate their product, but a lot of them are probably bullshit scams and contain nothing more than mitragynine.
Huge thank you for the info… im new to kratom and never tried 7-oh or even any extract. Just those kava/kratom drinks which i get more nausea from then benefits.. so far only enjoyed powder. And yea surprisingly only Friday, sat and sumtimes Sunday these past few weeks.
 
Just made a special trip to tell all you good people 1 and a half of the "VII tablets" is the best I've experienced. 6 hour long. I purchased 10 and was sent 15 for 55$ after shipping. I bought direct. I have tried 20 different brands and these are the best in my opinion. Even better then "pressed" reds
 
With nearly zero opiate tolerance, 1/2 of those most commonly discussed "15mg" tablets gave me quite a nice high. I remember reading about a metabolite being active and I noticed that the high did seem to go through stages, building over a couple hours. As a matter of fact, the legs are what I liked the most.
I'm glad I didn't take a whole one and I can get a buzz on 1/4 tab. I'm a tall guy weighing nearly 200lb. So, my recommendation is to start with 1/4.
I heard that it can raise your Kratom tolerance very quickly, so be aware of that.
I am very curious as to how it will combine with classic opiates. Say, 1/4 tab with a Vicodin or 1/4 tab with a light dose of poppy seed wash.
 
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Without tolerance?

Low - 1-1.5mg
Medium - 2mg-3mg
High - 5mg


Just my experience. It also shines a lot more if added to a bit of kratom. You really don't need much.

And yes, it is amazing for pain and sleep.
I couldn't agree more. I gave my wife a tiny little piece of a 30mg tab (about 1/8 tab, so ~3.75mg). She has been off opiates for a long time now, and she said she got quite the buzz. I take kratom daily so my dose is quite a bit higher than hers.
However, it's not really that euphoric by itself. It's not stimulating at all.
I respectfully disagree. I find it very euphoric, as well as mildly stimulating. I'd say it's on par with how Vicodin / Percocet felt the first few times I took it, but the novelty quickly wears off, just like Vicodin.

It's definitely compulsive for me, unlike regular kratom. I just want to take more and more until it just stops working until I take a serious break.
 
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