Hello, everyone, I never really posted anything on forums before, but this forum is one of two that has helped me greatly for so many years, so i felt i had to share my experience. (just hope posting this in the right section). I'm hoping this may help anyone anyone trying to quit suboxone after long term use, since it is such hell trying to quit it due to its long half life. I got off it in 5 days without any severe withdrawal and ESPECIALLY without any long lasting depression symptoms.. (but i must admit, you have to WANT to quit it for any of this to work, in my opinion).
Please do note, this did involve a short stay in a DETOX center.
Just a quick back story, I have been on different painkillers for over 10 years (and binged on almost everything else, but never hooked), none prescribed, OC's 80's were def my fav, while they were still around (not heroin, was never my thing, just fyi). around 6-8 years ago i woke up one night with withdrawals, not knowing what it was, but, obviously, soon after realized i was hooked. Ever since it was simply maintenance, not even getting joy from them pills.. have quit it on my own CT 2-3 times but always relapsed. 2 years ago i found out about suboxone and tried it with the intention of quitting it all for good. but i made a grave mistake.. i got comfortable with it.. (i must say, to this day i really believe subs are great for anyone trying to quit hard opiate use, but ONLY if done properly, such as a 1-2 week taper, otherwise it really is HELL).
anyways, for the next 2 years i have been on 6-14 mg's a day, fluctuated due to different emotional crap in life, but i always tried to taper myself down as much as possible. although, i could never go pass 2mg's a day, was always the hardest (or impossible, should i say).. i tried to stop CT when i visited my girlfriend off of 6-8mg's. for the 2 weeks i was there, i felt like total shit, couldn't move, no appetite, and no sleep, which messed with me the most, so, needless to say, as soon as i came back, i relapsed. there was simply no sight of a light at the end of the tunnel...
3 months later things only got worse, girlfriend was fed up, broke up with me, i went on a sever drinking binge, for 2 weeks i ate only twice, but drank around 3 bottles of wine and a ton of vodka each day..by the end i gave myself alcohol poisoning, didn't think i was gonna make it (i must add that depression is the main source for my use). didn't see a way out, but luckily that last night made up with my gf and realized maybe i could use some more professional help, and for the first time in almost a decade i actually envisioned myself, my life, more than just a freakin' year in the future.. so i decided to go to detox.
so here's what i really wish to share. on Monday i was supposed to go to in-take at a detox center (since i only had medicaid, it was a pretty ghetto center, but it was fun, i gotta admit). i was on around 6-8mg's at the time, had only a 2mg piece of a pill left Saturday morning. by saturday eve i was very worried about next day, since i had to get ready for detox and didn't want to be in withdrawals (even if they were mainly mental due to suboxone's long halflife). only things i could get were methadone or heroin, and since i didn't do H, thought methadone would last me till monday. instead it made me only sick (stomach, not wd's), so by sunday eve i took 3 5mg oxycodones so i could at least sleep (which, to my surprise WORKED!). monday morning i took 3-5 more oxys and drank a good amount (i also had alcohol wd at this point) before i left my house to detox center.
HERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING: during intake at the detox center, they detected methadone in my system, so they said they will put me on the methadone program. i was afraid at first, since i didn't want to replace one thing with another, but i didn't have a choice.. intake took 8 hours, so by 8 pm i felt like utter shit, but when they finally gave me my methadone and librium (for the alcohol), i was absolutely amazed that it worked!!! it meant that suboxone wasn't clinging to my receptors anymore, or whatever was left got knocked off by the methadone! (i'm sure the librium helped a lot too). so next day i decided to simply stick with their methadone taper program.
due to my shitty insurance, i only had 5 days in detox instead of the usual 7. they give meds in the morning and evening..their methadone program is smth like 15mg's first 3 times, then 10 mg's next 2-3 times, then 5mg's next two times. during my stay at detox i felt like the jolliest person there, since i couldn't believe the methadone was working, and that i would only have to deal of wd's from 5mg's of meth instead of 3 weeks of total crap as i would from suboxone..
when i got out on Friday, i felt great. next couple of nights were problematic, since i was still coming off the 5mg's of methadone and librium, but it was NOTHING compared to the wd's i would be experiencing if i had done it CT myself!!! on sunday i finally got some high potency magnesium which TOTALLY helped any restless legs and muscle tension i had. i felt very weak physically for around a week, but i kept pushing myself, going out for walks, and within 2weeks i actually started feeling human again!
i just wanted to share this hoping it may help someone. it has been 40 days since i been out and i had never expected to be able to jog, exercise 3 times as much as i did before, feel such clarity and most importantly, NO DEPRESSION, so soon after quitting! especially compared to my personal experiences and everything i had read online.
but a couple things i must mention, it really DOES depend on your mental state, you really DO have to WANT to quit. and i seriously doubt i would have ever been able to do it without a detox center, but then again i DID hit rock bottom.. but if you have the will, then it's absolutely possible to get off this shitty fucking long half-life having crappy drug in 5 days!
this was just my experience. i can only hope it will help somebody. and i am VERY sorry for making this soo long-winded, heh ;-)
best of luck to you! (and i would gladly answer any questions you may have, i feel so lucky to have gotten out of this messy spiral so easily, that i will never take it for granted, and i wish to only help anyone seeking it).
Please do note, this did involve a short stay in a DETOX center.
Just a quick back story, I have been on different painkillers for over 10 years (and binged on almost everything else, but never hooked), none prescribed, OC's 80's were def my fav, while they were still around (not heroin, was never my thing, just fyi). around 6-8 years ago i woke up one night with withdrawals, not knowing what it was, but, obviously, soon after realized i was hooked. Ever since it was simply maintenance, not even getting joy from them pills.. have quit it on my own CT 2-3 times but always relapsed. 2 years ago i found out about suboxone and tried it with the intention of quitting it all for good. but i made a grave mistake.. i got comfortable with it.. (i must say, to this day i really believe subs are great for anyone trying to quit hard opiate use, but ONLY if done properly, such as a 1-2 week taper, otherwise it really is HELL).
anyways, for the next 2 years i have been on 6-14 mg's a day, fluctuated due to different emotional crap in life, but i always tried to taper myself down as much as possible. although, i could never go pass 2mg's a day, was always the hardest (or impossible, should i say).. i tried to stop CT when i visited my girlfriend off of 6-8mg's. for the 2 weeks i was there, i felt like total shit, couldn't move, no appetite, and no sleep, which messed with me the most, so, needless to say, as soon as i came back, i relapsed. there was simply no sight of a light at the end of the tunnel...
3 months later things only got worse, girlfriend was fed up, broke up with me, i went on a sever drinking binge, for 2 weeks i ate only twice, but drank around 3 bottles of wine and a ton of vodka each day..by the end i gave myself alcohol poisoning, didn't think i was gonna make it (i must add that depression is the main source for my use). didn't see a way out, but luckily that last night made up with my gf and realized maybe i could use some more professional help, and for the first time in almost a decade i actually envisioned myself, my life, more than just a freakin' year in the future.. so i decided to go to detox.
so here's what i really wish to share. on Monday i was supposed to go to in-take at a detox center (since i only had medicaid, it was a pretty ghetto center, but it was fun, i gotta admit). i was on around 6-8mg's at the time, had only a 2mg piece of a pill left Saturday morning. by saturday eve i was very worried about next day, since i had to get ready for detox and didn't want to be in withdrawals (even if they were mainly mental due to suboxone's long halflife). only things i could get were methadone or heroin, and since i didn't do H, thought methadone would last me till monday. instead it made me only sick (stomach, not wd's), so by sunday eve i took 3 5mg oxycodones so i could at least sleep (which, to my surprise WORKED!). monday morning i took 3-5 more oxys and drank a good amount (i also had alcohol wd at this point) before i left my house to detox center.
HERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING: during intake at the detox center, they detected methadone in my system, so they said they will put me on the methadone program. i was afraid at first, since i didn't want to replace one thing with another, but i didn't have a choice.. intake took 8 hours, so by 8 pm i felt like utter shit, but when they finally gave me my methadone and librium (for the alcohol), i was absolutely amazed that it worked!!! it meant that suboxone wasn't clinging to my receptors anymore, or whatever was left got knocked off by the methadone! (i'm sure the librium helped a lot too). so next day i decided to simply stick with their methadone taper program.
due to my shitty insurance, i only had 5 days in detox instead of the usual 7. they give meds in the morning and evening..their methadone program is smth like 15mg's first 3 times, then 10 mg's next 2-3 times, then 5mg's next two times. during my stay at detox i felt like the jolliest person there, since i couldn't believe the methadone was working, and that i would only have to deal of wd's from 5mg's of meth instead of 3 weeks of total crap as i would from suboxone..
when i got out on Friday, i felt great. next couple of nights were problematic, since i was still coming off the 5mg's of methadone and librium, but it was NOTHING compared to the wd's i would be experiencing if i had done it CT myself!!! on sunday i finally got some high potency magnesium which TOTALLY helped any restless legs and muscle tension i had. i felt very weak physically for around a week, but i kept pushing myself, going out for walks, and within 2weeks i actually started feeling human again!
i just wanted to share this hoping it may help someone. it has been 40 days since i been out and i had never expected to be able to jog, exercise 3 times as much as i did before, feel such clarity and most importantly, NO DEPRESSION, so soon after quitting! especially compared to my personal experiences and everything i had read online.
but a couple things i must mention, it really DOES depend on your mental state, you really DO have to WANT to quit. and i seriously doubt i would have ever been able to do it without a detox center, but then again i DID hit rock bottom.. but if you have the will, then it's absolutely possible to get off this shitty fucking long half-life having crappy drug in 5 days!
this was just my experience. i can only hope it will help somebody. and i am VERY sorry for making this soo long-winded, heh ;-)
best of luck to you! (and i would gladly answer any questions you may have, i feel so lucky to have gotten out of this messy spiral so easily, that i will never take it for granted, and i wish to only help anyone seeking it).
