Herbal~Jah
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"Anyone heard a loud hum at bedtime from opiates? "
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Anyone heard a loud hum at bedtime from opiates?
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RobotRipping
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sleep paralysis can be scary at first, especially if you don't know what it is. The fact that you can enter altered states of consciousness in this state is what people find awesome about it. It always catches me off guard tho, and i feel the most incredibly body buzz that i've ever felt (no drug can compare), eventually i'll feel myself leaving my body and either enter a dream or some sort of strange state like an OBE that is distinguishable from a dream IMO.
If i'm stuck in sleep paralysis i either wait it out and enter a dream (usually not intentionally though) or i make small weird noises to get my gf to wake me up or roll myself out of it. It really disrupts my sleeping tho and i don't feel well rested after a night of weird shit happening. There is always some sense of fear when this happens (usually i think that i'm not going to return to my body, tho i know i will) but if you can put the fear aside, it's really just harmless.
Some people like to think of it as astral projection and others think it's just hallucinations and such. I don't really know but i used to practice lucid dreaming from ages 13-18 and it just happens to me all the time, especially with opiates. Sometimes i just prefer not to dream (cannabis does help with this greatly).
If i'm stuck in sleep paralysis i either wait it out and enter a dream (usually not intentionally though) or i make small weird noises to get my gf to wake me up or roll myself out of it. It really disrupts my sleeping tho and i don't feel well rested after a night of weird shit happening. There is always some sense of fear when this happens (usually i think that i'm not going to return to my body, tho i know i will) but if you can put the fear aside, it's really just harmless.
Some people like to think of it as astral projection and others think it's just hallucinations and such. I don't really know but i used to practice lucid dreaming from ages 13-18 and it just happens to me all the time, especially with opiates. Sometimes i just prefer not to dream (cannabis does help with this greatly).
weed really makes the false awakenings (a kind of sleep paralysis) go away. Weed generally makes me spiritually numb-which can be a desired side effect but after a while I start to feel really empty. I invite the false awakenings because they tear my soul open and make me vulnerable in a way that nothing else does. It's comforting afterwards to know that I have exposed myself (unintentionally) to a very special vulnerability that is indescribable and only something that comes from within. It's like I have to go "crazy" in order to feel saner in a fundementally inexplicable world.
Wow, Doctor, I have never experienced stuff like that. I would be very frighetned. Perhaps you need an exorcism of some kind???? Like a spiritual confrontation w/ those "personalities" you encounter? It would be very frigtening though to do...
Wow, Doctor, I have never experienced stuff like that. I would be very frighetned. Perhaps you need an exorcism of some kind???? Like a spiritual confrontation w/ those "personalities" you encounter? It would be very frigtening though to do...
Pill2Chill
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I've had this on a number of occasions. What works for me is rapidly blinking my eyes to snap out of it. If I want to that is, sometimes I just stay still (duh) and wait till I fall asleep for real. The eyes seem to be the only part of the body you are still able to move when you're having sleep paralysis.
DooMMooD
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This. Eyes and a few grunts. I also used to get false awakenings quite frequently. Again, for the most part, a lot of this went away when I quit doing opiates.
truvision
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Ive had some pretty bad ringing in the ear from opiates and it was pretty darn annoying too. I've read that can actually be a side effect from them.As far as sleep paralysis I used to feel that all the time back when I used to do a lot of MDMA, Nitrous and acid.Even after I quit there for a while I would experience many times when I would be suspended in some sort of half in half out sleep and would feel myself rise out of my body and almost go up to the ceiling.
I'd look down on myself and see myself lying there but feel totally unable to snap out of it. It was kind of cool but scary at the same time.What was really freaky though was when I would finally shake myself out of it I would awake only to find that I was lying in the exact position that I saw from the ceiling.I've also seen something that could best be described as crazy lit up orbs above my head while half in half out of sleep.
The absolute scariest however, was when I was also paralyzed in sleep and didn't know if my eyes were open or closed but there was a dark figure standing beside my bed and it sad "choose good or choose evil." Then he brought up his hand or something and brought it down on me really quickly like he was about to kill me and I snapped out of it.Ill tell you that one really shook me up.
I havn't since had any more experiences like that since quitting the hardcore stuff except recently which PilltoChill heard about in my last few postings. Been waking up thinking I was dead but then again I suspect that's been cause I just started on Baclofen and trying to get off Loperamide at the same time.I think that might also have been because my body was so dehydrated (which loperamide does to the extreme,its pretty nasty).
It's def tied into the drugs messing with our brain chemistry. I also believe there's something spiritual to it as well.Our brains are capable of much more than we think and I do think there is much more to life than what we see.Drugs tend to open that part of our brains up that people who have not ever done psychedelics could never relate to and will never experience.
I'd look down on myself and see myself lying there but feel totally unable to snap out of it. It was kind of cool but scary at the same time.What was really freaky though was when I would finally shake myself out of it I would awake only to find that I was lying in the exact position that I saw from the ceiling.I've also seen something that could best be described as crazy lit up orbs above my head while half in half out of sleep.
The absolute scariest however, was when I was also paralyzed in sleep and didn't know if my eyes were open or closed but there was a dark figure standing beside my bed and it sad "choose good or choose evil." Then he brought up his hand or something and brought it down on me really quickly like he was about to kill me and I snapped out of it.Ill tell you that one really shook me up.
I havn't since had any more experiences like that since quitting the hardcore stuff except recently which PilltoChill heard about in my last few postings. Been waking up thinking I was dead but then again I suspect that's been cause I just started on Baclofen and trying to get off Loperamide at the same time.I think that might also have been because my body was so dehydrated (which loperamide does to the extreme,its pretty nasty).
It's def tied into the drugs messing with our brain chemistry. I also believe there's something spiritual to it as well.Our brains are capable of much more than we think and I do think there is much more to life than what we see.Drugs tend to open that part of our brains up that people who have not ever done psychedelics could never relate to and will never experience.
Doctor_Ew420
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I really have to beg to differ. I do not think this is directly related to drug use. I have been experiencing this in times that I would call myself sober... and for extended periods of time. It is just one of those things that happens, sometimes more to others, sometimes more invasive than others, but I think the people that are susceptible could definitely get increased effects from drugs (it seems like most drugs short of marijuana can cause it, especially with abuse)
It happens to me pretty much every time I take opiates and even though it is not enjoyable, and I don't count myself lucky to be effected by it, I also find it to be rather spiritual. I have been faced with grisly death dozens of times from the comfort of my own bed. This helps me go out into the world and take what I want (I am a graffiti writer) and do so without the fear of death. I am infinitely afraid of the process of dying, but I am no longer afraid to die or be dead. Some seem to think this can come from use of a machine called the Dreamachine which on its own causes CEV for hours at a time. It has been said that Kurt Cobain and Brian Jones were both using the machine fairly frequently in the days leading up to their deaths. I really think this destructive/free feeling comes from my sleep paralysis, I would love to know if those two men suffered from sleep paralysis.
It happens to me pretty much every time I take opiates and even though it is not enjoyable, and I don't count myself lucky to be effected by it, I also find it to be rather spiritual. I have been faced with grisly death dozens of times from the comfort of my own bed. This helps me go out into the world and take what I want (I am a graffiti writer) and do so without the fear of death. I am infinitely afraid of the process of dying, but I am no longer afraid to die or be dead. Some seem to think this can come from use of a machine called the Dreamachine which on its own causes CEV for hours at a time. It has been said that Kurt Cobain and Brian Jones were both using the machine fairly frequently in the days leading up to their deaths. I really think this destructive/free feeling comes from my sleep paralysis, I would love to know if those two men suffered from sleep paralysis.
truvision
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Doctor,thats interesting, Ive never heard of a dreamachine. Ill have to look that up. Then again your absolutely right. I guess some people are just more naturally prone to having these sorts of experiences all on thier own even without drug use.I guess I was just comparing that to my own experiences in that before I used drugs I didnt really have many of those experiences. After I used them for quite a few years was when I really started having them. You know what though, now that I think about it I actually did have a couple of those experiences as a kid although they were maybe not quite as profound.
Because were all different though, just because that's what happened for me doesnt mean it couldnt happen to someone else that hasnt used any drugs at all. There has actually been theories to say that schizophrenics are just more naturally open to spiritual realm than others and I often wonder if some of that might also be true for autistic people as well. I think for many people it is usually tied into drug use as it was for me, but I have actually met people who were also neither schizophrenics, autistic or ever used drugs that were just I guess you could say deeper in thier awareness than the average person.
Because were all different though, just because that's what happened for me doesnt mean it couldnt happen to someone else that hasnt used any drugs at all. There has actually been theories to say that schizophrenics are just more naturally open to spiritual realm than others and I often wonder if some of that might also be true for autistic people as well. I think for many people it is usually tied into drug use as it was for me, but I have actually met people who were also neither schizophrenics, autistic or ever used drugs that were just I guess you could say deeper in thier awareness than the average person.
Toz
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I have tinnitus, so yes. It's the same as without the opiates though.
The opiate sleep paralysis, which i have recently experienced is worse then the normal one somehow. It happens on Kratom and low dose Heroin. In higher doses on Heroin i just nod and pass out without issues.
But yes, the Kratom ones sucked big time and had an element of intensely load sound to it, not sure what but its not the normal buzzing. Thinking back i want to say it was thunderous distorted screaming, but thats prob influenced by the fear element, which is also far worse then i remember normally. The opiate paralysis ensured i did not attempt to risk it again, whereas the normal one is mild in comparison to the fear.
I understand that opiates are commonly known to effect sleep so this was expected by me. Drinking on Kratom helped sleep, not sure or if safe with opiates.
Seroquel, hoping to help sleep, made things far worse on Kratom as well and is dangerous overall with opiates.
This is also all different from the buzzing in the ears i experience from H, after dosing. Apparently due to the drop in BP. Only occured a few times, prob due to a bigger dose
But yes, the Kratom ones sucked big time and had an element of intensely load sound to it, not sure what but its not the normal buzzing. Thinking back i want to say it was thunderous distorted screaming, but thats prob influenced by the fear element, which is also far worse then i remember normally. The opiate paralysis ensured i did not attempt to risk it again, whereas the normal one is mild in comparison to the fear.
I understand that opiates are commonly known to effect sleep so this was expected by me. Drinking on Kratom helped sleep, not sure or if safe with opiates.
Seroquel, hoping to help sleep, made things far worse on Kratom as well and is dangerous overall with opiates.
This is also all different from the buzzing in the ears i experience from H, after dosing. Apparently due to the drop in BP. Only occured a few times, prob due to a bigger dose
Jabberwocky
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Actually i've found that opiates completely reverse sleep paralysis in myself. If I've dosed up on opiates I don't suffer from it, however when i'm in withdrawal from opiates holy shit does it hit me hard. I can't stand it - it drives me mad, I genuinely think i've come close to having a heart attack while in sleep paralysis. Drinking with opiates is very dangerous, it's mixing two very potent CNS depressants together and I strongly advise that you don't do that. It's very easy to overdose if you do.
I also experience the buzzing in my ears from opiates, in fact i'm suffering from it now. As blight as suggested I think it's from the large drop in blood pressure, as if I take stimulants the hum seems to fade away. The higher the dose the larger the buzz/humming.
I also experience the buzzing in my ears from opiates, in fact i'm suffering from it now. As blight as suggested I think it's from the large drop in blood pressure, as if I take stimulants the hum seems to fade away. The higher the dose the larger the buzz/humming.
qft. Never mix central nervous system depressants unless you are tolerant to both. Even then tread with extreme caution and reduce doses of both accordingly as they tend to have a synergistic effect combined in almost all cases.
Professer
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^Kratom seems to enhance the regular slight visuals I have. 'HPPD' as they call it.
Perhaps this is related to this thread. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum
Perhaps this is related to this thread. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum
sweetsweetcyanide
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I have episodes of sleep paralysis and sometimes when I am about to fall asleep I hear strange noises in my head, most notably a short ringing sound as if you were turning an old TV on or off. Sometimes it is a voice though. After this happens I'll fall asleep and have nightmares followed by sleep paralysis. It always happens that way for me. This is common if your sleep pattern has been changed which is often the case for people using opiates. It happens to me when I take Vicodin so you're not the only one
Jabberwocky
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no.... sleep paralysis does cause you hear to hear voices when you're experiencing it. it is not a sign of schizophrenia, unless its during the daytime and you're not in sleep paralysis.