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Misc Anyone else like trazodone?

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Trazadone made me feel hung over the next day, and have weird dreams.

The best hypnotic sleep aid is zolpidem, it erases your dreams, great for PTSD. It's relaxing, works fast, and no hangover.
 
Trazodone, for lack of a better way to describe it, gives me a hangover the following morning. I'm not very sick but I feel ill, I feel groggy for hours, and I'm tired for half the day. It sucks because all sleeping medication does this to me (all that I have tried - even stuff that the doc claimed wouldn't) and I have severe insomnia. It is what led me to drink and now, after 20+ years of drinking, I'm finally sober for longer than 6 months. Well, no... I am finally not drinking for longer than six months. I still do plenty of other things, I just don't drink.
 
WeeksendinginY said:
Trazadone made me feel hung over the next day, and have weird dreams.

The best hypnotic sleep aid is zolpidem, it erases your dreams, great for PTSD. It's relaxing, works fast, and no hangover.
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Wow - I had loaded this page and not replied yet as I was busy but figured I'd respond later. It's interesting to see someone else describe it like that. I can't do any of them though I find it's not TOO bad with certain muscle relaxers which also do a pretty good job at making me sleep. I haven't tried Zolpidem but I'll mention it to my doctor.
 
WeeksendinginY said:
Trazadone made me feel hung over the next day, and have weird dreams.

The best hypnotic sleep aid is zolpidem, it erases your dreams, great for PTSD. It's relaxing, works fast, and no hangover.
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Funny, thats exactly what zolpidem does to me. It doesn't erase my dreams, I remember having really vivid dreams and loads of them were lucid. Problem is I think it deprives me of one of the stages of sleep, thats why I feel hungover the next day.
 
Zolpidem is usually only used short term by doctors. It's also physically addictive.

For long term sleep problems hard hitting indica strains work well too.

When your daily life is debilitated by health problems especially sleeping problems, you weigh the scales and if its beneficial you go with it.


Good luck unspoken
 
CrimpJiggler said:
Funny, thats exactly what zolpidem does to me. It doesn't erase my dreams, I remember having really vivid dreams and loads of them were lucid. Problem is I think it deprives me of one of the stages of sleep, thats why I feel hungover the next day.
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Ah yeah, always interesting to note how different body chemistry's are always the most important variable in chemical effects.

Peace
 
UnspokenVoice: Have you tried GHB? It gives you good quality sleep, but when you wake up you're bursting with energy. Baclofen might be easier to obtain, but I'm not sure if it gives you energy like GHB does.
 
Used for a few months, towards the end I started getting really bad nightmares and was sleep walking. Apparently I was screaming in my sleep and was found in a closet. Not cool.

Shit was dumped into the toliet after that one. Its a shame because it did work for awhile, but I always hated the next day effects. Right now I am just taking OTC antihistamines and gabapentin for sleep which seems to be working well. I am planning on weaning of the gabapentin after I get off my Celexa (I hate SSRIs)
 
oh im sorry, it seems trazadone actually lacks any mACHR affinity, which might explain its "cleaner" profile related to other TCAs. it also seems to have negligible affinity for H1 too. weird...

anywhoo, it has potent 5HT-2a antagonism (same binding site for LSD, but LSD is an agonist here), and potent a1/a2 antagonism affinity similar to an anti-hypertensive drugs such as clonidine.

being relieved from anxiety and stress (NE) is intself pleasant. here, we measure the net change in going from below a ground state(the state of sadness/anxiety) to ground state (state of content) is positive. meaning you absorb happiness like ice -> water absorbs heat. we will call this delta "H" for "happiness" ... ilol
 
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I've just switched from 50mg daily trazodone to 15mg daily mirtazapine. Boy, was the trazodone withdrawal horrid! The mirtazapine is a funny one at the mo. It knocks me out at night, then I wake up in the middle of the night with bad restless legs, then I can't get up in the morning and I feel so spaced out all day. The dreams are amazing but - jeez - it's potent stuff! A lot more potent than trazodone.

I had to stop taking trazodone because I was getting negative cardiovascular side effects.
 
for me, trazodone works very well as sleeping aid, with little to no sideeffects. I know this is officially an antidepressant and used off-label as sleeping aid, but I can't help the feeling it should be actually the other way round. my psychiatrist also thinks this way, he said that this compound has little to antidepressant effects. today I saw his holiday replacement, and he has a very different opinion: he thinks that in higher doses this is a wonder AD, and he urged me very strongly to increase to dosage up to see for myself how marvellous it is. I tried to argument several times that I like it as sedative at small doses and would like to keep it that way in order to avoid tolerance increse (which of course exists, like with any other sedative). he completely ignored me, because it is of course a deadly sin to mention an antidepressant and the word "tolerance" in the same sentence. I can't help the impression that the reasioning behind this is something like "take any drug, write antidepressant all over it, and the basic laws of pharmacology are set out of order".

so has anyone experience with the antidepressant effects of trazodone? are they there at all? if yes, are they desireable? or is increasing the dosage just asking for the wonderful effects of mCPP?
 
I get it prescribed for sleep. I gotta take about 2 50mg for me to get tired. I did try an get 'high' on this stuff before. Only 2 times. First time i took about 10 50mg pills an fought off the sleep an it was a wierd high. Not really a high though its hard to explain. Next day i took 9 50mg an was like fuck it so i went to sleep an woke up at 5pm the next day. Not real good drug for a high.
 
Stopped mirtazapine. Horrible drug...felt groggy all day and moody. Trazodone was much more effective, imo. Trazodone is a gentle anti depressant and good sleep aid at 50mg. I'm going to take it once or twice a week, along with phenibut and etiz for sleep. That should ensure me a full week of sleep and not get too hooked/tolerant to anything :)
 
I'm very surprised so many enjoy Trazodone. I'm a chronic sufferer of insomnia and before I received Valium, my doctor put me on Trazodone. Absolutely horrid medication IMO with a laundry list of potential and potentially severe side effects. One of the worst is the fact that it can and often does cause priapism in males.

I took it two or three times and never touched it again. I don't need a sleep medication every single night so I've never needed anything else after getting on valium. Two or three nights / week, sometime less has never caused dependence so for me it's a win win.

I don't have difficulty with sleep every night, but when I do, I'm up the entire night without so much as a wink of sleep. While dealing with one night of no sleep every now and again is no big deal, for my line of work two or three nights of sleeplessness is soul crushing so the valium has been a lifesaver. Docs in the US don't like prescribing Temazepam so this is the best I'm likely to get.

I had an allergic reaction to Ambien so I stay away from z-drugs.
 
Trazodone occasionaly reminded me of MDMA or LSD but after a year of taking it it makes my feet swell and I don't take it any more cos it seems that it must be messing up my body.
 
phactor said:
Right now I am just taking OTC antihistamines and gabapentin for sleep which seems to be working well. I am planning on weaning of the gabapentin after I get off my Celexa (I hate SSRIs)
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Gabapentin is a perfectly fine hypnotic with very few negative side effects. I'd be way more concerned about the antihistamines, I took 25mg Benadryl for awhile and eventually the anticholinergic effects got so bad (I'd imagine due to accumulation) that it made me feel mentally retarded all day.

Anyways, trazodone is a pretty interesting drug. It helped me a bit with sleep, but the daytime sedation was too much for me. I actually broke it back out a few weeks ago to help with Effexor withdrawals, and it helped pretty decently with those (though Prozac ended up being the silver bullet). I had forgotten how odd the dreams were with it, and I'd wake up to piss some nights and think, "What the fuck was I dreaming??" One of trazodone's main metabolites (which I suspect might contribute to both its positive and negative effects) is mCPP, which is known to be psychedelic. That would make sense as to why it makes your dreams so odd!

I've tried zopiclone, and it had the same problems with daytime sedation. I didn't want to go on zolpidem cause I've heard too many nasty stories about it and ramelteon wasn't an option (too expensive!), so my doc gave me some zaleplon (Sonata) to try. Holy shit, what an amazing sleep aid! I don't get hangovers from it, and apparently it's significantly less addictive than the other z-drugs.
 
velmwend said:
I've just switched from 50mg daily trazodone to 15mg daily mirtazapine. Boy, was the trazodone withdrawal horrid! The mirtazapine is a funny one at the mo. It knocks me out at night, then I wake up in the middle of the night with bad restless legs, then I can't get up in the morning and I feel so spaced out all day. The dreams are amazing but - jeez - it's potent stuff! A lot more potent than trazodone.

I had to stop taking trazodone because I was getting negative cardiovascular side effects.
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Weird how its so different for everyone. 15mg of mirtazapine knocks me out for 14 hours straight, and I'm pretty alert the next day, but I wake up screaming every night due to the nightmares. I've only tried it about 5 times, and every time I had severe nightmares. Trazodone doesn't give me nightmares at all. Also mirtazapine doesn't leave me feeling good the next day like trazodone does. I agree with you, its way more potent than trazodone IME.

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Stopped mirtazapine. Horrible drug...felt groggy all day and moody. Trazodone was much more effective, imo. Trazodone is a gentle anti depressant and good sleep aid at 50mg. I'm going to take it once or twice a week, along with phenibut and etiz for sleep. That should ensure me a full week of sleep and not get too hooked/tolerant to anything :)
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My god, don't take phenibut + etizolam daily whatever you do. Limit the phenibut to once a week, and the etizolam to once or twice a week. Phenibut withdrawals are pretty shit. I recommend having a wide range of different classes of hypnotics at your disposal, that way theres no need to become physically dependent on any single one. For example, recently I been using scopolamine, which is acts mainly as an anticholinergic. Before that I was using doxylamine which is a fine sleep aid that acts as an antihistamine and to a lesser extent, anticholinergic. Then theres rhodiola rosea which weirdly enough, helps me sleep. I take 10mg of melotonin most nights.
 
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I am so not a doctor, and I'm thinking that what I do isn't safe... but...

I'm prescribed 300mg (three 100mg tablets) of Trazadone, at bedtime. I don't use them that way though. I take seven to nine (depending on if it's built up inside me), and I feel great. People comment on how smiley I am, and in general, I just feel amazing. I don't have a lot of energy, but I do enjoy the banalities of life much, much more. ;) It lifts my mood, makes me feel cozy/happy, and in general I don't worry about things as much.

Remember, I'm using too much and it might not be safe!!! But it's what I do, and I enjoy it immensely.
This from a morphine addict. ;)
 
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