Anyone else get unusual opiod-like rushes of euphoria during completely sober moments

[llamer]

(no clue what forum this goes in)

Ever since I flipped out/had a psychotic hallucination Monday morning, I've been getting moments every day where a rush of narcotic euphoria surges up through me, filling my ears for a flashing instant with a pleasurable kind of warming burst that is very reminiscent of an opiod high, but lasts less than a second and occurring when I am completely stone cold sober. I have no explanation other than it is somehow brought about by the trauma I experienced five days ago when I hallucinated some very scary things and acted on them, which led to a drastic rearrangement of my family life and my entering a day long funk of extreme depression, which I'm out of now.

What could this be - just being in tune with my naturally coursing neurotransmitters and their flow and pulse, or something else entirely? I'm just wondering if anyone else experiences these kinds of feelings, and what sorts of reasons there could be for us sensing them. Thanks.

 

[Zombartie]

When I first read it I instantly thought of what I get sometimes after eatting hot salsa. Its endorphins tickling your brain. Is that how it feels for you?

I never had like that randomly. Pretty cool.
Its almost like that documentary about girls having random orgasms several times a day.
But I am sure its not too amusing for you. Maybe you should visit a neurologist, get some tests done unless you actually enjoy it.

 

[llamer]

It's enjoyable and yet it lasts less than one second. Not quite the same as eating hot food; it more is reminiscent of that nanosecond you have either before you fall asleep - only to wake right back up - or a similar lapse in awareness while you're nodding out. But seriously, just for half a second. And while I DO have a dr. appointment on monday, and will be getting a blood test, I doubt there's anything short of EEG/MRI I could get done that would put this down into a medical book. But yeah, it is pretty cool...

 

[The Network]

Depersonalization...

 

[DJ_Cosmo]

I get rushes of soft warm euphoria when completely sober, but I can't compare opioids as I have never used them. This was definitely triggered by an experience, but I think your experience was far more severe and of a different nature, and perhaps this is reflected by the nature of these "rushes"? The waves emanate from the back of my neck/between shoulders, bringing peace and contentment with them. I think they are probably less intense than what you experience, but last longer (up to several seconds). In my experience they occur more frequently when sleep is lacking. They can to an extent be triggered by external (and internal) stimuli, but sometimes they seem to occur randomly, but I don't know if they're truly random.

I can't say scientifically why they happen. I have put some thought into it before, and while I can't remember a lot of the relevant stuff that I've mulled over before at the moment, I can say that there does seem to be some kind of increased sensitivity internally that leads to this. One simple hypothesis is that basically the brain/nervous system is reacting differently from normal to certain stimuli, possibly by increased speed or magnitude of response (leading to sensations being felt consciously because of their unusual intensity, like a burst of neurochemical activity that would normally occur slowly and smoothly), or perhaps what is going on is qualitatively different from what would normally be happening. Environmental factors can affect gene expression, and the brain has an incredible plasticity. The trigger behind the change is unusually intense stress of some kind, and I think that our brains have developed a compensatory or defensive mechanism as a result. Or it could be that the activity is aberrant and 'bad', but I suspect that what is going on could be pretty much exactly what should be happening given the circumstances. I could go into better detail but I feel like I've said enough at this point.

What do you think? Do you notice anything that triggers the rushes? Do they relate to any part of your unforunate experience/trauma? What drugs if any were consumed, for example, before or during the hallucinations or depression? Did you previously suffer from any mental disorders?

 

[llamer]

I'm not sure what you think your experiences with these aberrations have to do with compensation/overcompensation in regards to stress. Are you thinking that it's some endorphin-related-type reaction to the state you're in when you're experiencing these (sleep deprived and undergoing stress)? I think that's more of a categorical stasis which probably has a clinical name (e.g. runner's high, fight or flight, etc.), but what we're talking about is of course completely speculative. I guess I'm not entirely sure what you mean, and maybe you should go into better detail, because what I'm hearing is that you think this is just a manifestation of our brain adapting to a stressful state (emotional and environmental), and these are some physiological leftovers -- which I disagree, although I'm not a clinical or neuro- psychologist.

What psychologists do know (the only thing they in fact know and do) are symptoms, and what The Network said ("depersonalization") is actually a compelling explanation of the symptom itself - although it in the end explains nothing, as depersonalization is just a symptom and has yet to be understood as to how or why it acts.

So I dunno. I ain't a scientist, and I haven't any theories on the matter, but reading about widespread cases of depersonalization and its acceptance in psychology today leads me to believe that that was what I was experiencing, however it manages to function or work (which is, in a way, irrelevant, because who's to say what's more 'real': the physiological actions of your body which may be producing this effect for your consciousness to feel, or the symptom/action itself, which would be an invisible effect and component of your multilevel and complicated mind, which goes to inform the body to make these physiological changes/sensations [in which case 'depersonalization' might be the wrong word because we don't really know why or for what reason our minds are doing that]). There doesn't seem to me to be anything at the time of my experiencing which is triggering these sensations; they are completely random as far as I can tell.

I can tell you that what I was feeling when I'd get these (they've pretty much gone now, as I've not felt one in almost a week or so) was that they reminded me only of a very specific sensation arising from my lower neck near my collarbone and travel upwards along either side and towards the back of my head, penetrating inward behind my ears, lasting only a second but being a significant rush that filled my ears with a sort of roar and sent a shockwave of warmth outward all the way down my arms to my fingers (again just a split second). I get the same feeling while on a good dose of good opiods; this was like one aspect of a decent nodding out, like just a second-long component. I WAS on kratom when I had my episode which triggered this, in addition to being very stoned, coming down off of 4-MEC and dichloropane, and 1mg of etizolam; and thining back, I think I might have been feeling the same rushes at the time which I attributed to the kratom. The marijuana was the key ingrediant to my hallucinating, I believe, as it's always been really psychedelic and the cause of over self-analyzation and selfconsciousness to me. But I think there was all around synergy.

And I nor anyone in my family has a history of mental illness

 

[twistedhunter]

i used to take loads of ecstasy a couple years ago and used to get the tingly filling in my head for breif moments all the time. still get them but not as much. i feel its brain healing itself

 

[TheSacredTree]

I once had that warm opiate rush feeling when i was completely sober of all drugs (for 5 months) too. Happened to me like 4 months ago and lasted an entire 3 hours. It was awesome but kinda confusing; even a little alarming for a few seconds when i thought it may have been diabetes-related.

Then again i also had an experience a couple months before that where i was having what seemed like an LSD/DMT trip while laying in my bed that lasted about 4 minutes, also while completely sober. That time i felt like i was falling through a tunnell opening up beneath me into another version of my room with breathing walls and lots of colors, and then the whole thing looked like it was morphing into a swirling dome of moving colors and beautiful fractals and eventually melted like water paints running down a glass window back into my normal room where i fell asleep a couple minutes later.


Actually, now that i typed all that i'm starting to wonder. Bi-Polar does run in my family...

 

[Brody5150]

I was told that they're fat soluble so when your body uses its fat for energy or whatever and it reaches an area where some of it was stored, you'll get that rush or high as if you just did some even if you've been sober for a long time. Idk how true this is and it has never happened to me but I think it makes sense.

 

[Evergreendreams]

I know this was posted a long time ago but I was just searching through some threads and looking at ones that interest me.

I have had this happen to me multiple times. My first real addiction was to Spice (synthetic marijuana, a lot of people haven't heard of it..it can be extremely dangerous in the long run and in large amounts can cause psychosis permanently & schizophrenia like states..it's VERY popular in the military due to undetected on drug tests)
anyway, it sounds like baby shit, but it's not if you get really into it. It messed my life up for a good two years. I went to rehab because I just could not stop by myself, my ex husband was also doing it with me and was even more addicted which made it worse. I decided to get help, he did not.
So I got clean, and during rehab the counselor told me that addicts will experience "using dreams" where when you have a dream of getting high while you sleep and it will feel incredibly real like you're really high but in your sleep..they are awesome dreams lol She said this is the unconscious wanting it's "comfort food" so to say. Because that's all your brain has really known for the last however long you've been doing that drug. It's conditioned to it. Now, as for the brief moments of high you randomly experience, I have had that so many times! I'm not exactly sure what's happening chemically but it's almost like a dissociative state..it feels like my brain stops for a moment all time around me and in my brain..I get fuzzy in my head. I don't really like it usually because after a bad/strong one of those moments I sometimes get a tad nauseas. I have to sit down, or grab the counter and steady myself. It only lasts for 3-10 seconds. I'm interested if all drug users experience this and to what degree.
I also have used adderall and opiates. I have never experienced it from adderall or any brief moment of high resembling adderall unfortunately (this is my FAVORITE drug of all time).
I have experienced a bit from the opiate I think..but it's the Spice that has really been the most present feeling and I really dislike it.

Hope someone reads this eventually lol this thread was started a long time ago. Sorry just had to add my two cents!

 

[falsifiedhypothesi]

When I'm listening to a song I really enjoy when I'm in the right mindset I get a huge rush out of it. I can't control it and I would say it's more akin to coming up on mdma for about 3 seconds. I also have countless moments of depersonalization a week so Idk what the hell is wrong with us lol.

 

[Alexismynams]

I think it's because some drugs are stored in your fat so if you burn that fat it can go back into your system and make you feel high again even months later