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Opioids Anyone done hydromorph contin?

I would be careful since you have no tolerance to opiates. I have been on opiates since 5 years ago. And I could probably handle those fine. But as a first time user of them . I am hoping you are careful. I would try either taking them orally or by buccal way. I would not try them via iv if you have zero experience wit opiates. It could end up bad for you. I would rather you alive and err on the side of caution. I would try to take the lowest amount possible at first. Just in case. Jmo
 
While hydromorphne is mentioned in the BNF, I've never come across the stuff. It used to come as 1.3mg IR or 2.6mg SR formulations. Now I see 1.3, 2, 4 & 8mg formulations.

You seriously have to be cautious when the LARGEST formulation is just 8mg.

From what the folks on Opiophile said, hydromorphone has a huge rush but not much else. It seemed like among those who had tried it, hydromorphone was considered the best. But then those who had tried levorphanol said that was the best. I have no idea if anyone ever compared all three,
 
I thought OC was merely shorthand for OxyContin? I don't know because in the UK people are almost always prescribed a generic medication.

It's interesting to read the history of oxycodone. When it was first produced in Europe during the late 1920s it escaped legal control. It was produced as a compound medication in the form of 5mg oxycodone, 325mg aspirin and the perception was that it was merely an alternative to codeine. But it doesn't take a genius to realize that the aspirin could easily be removed and the first oxycodone epidemic occured.

Oxycodone first popped up in the US during the 1950s in that exact same formulation. Then it quickly expanded with oxycodone/paracetamol (acetaminophen) and latterly oxycodone/ibuprofen. So a user could pop two of each. In fact, the hard limit on paracetamol is best measured over 24 hours with the simple rule 'not more than 4 grams in any 24 hour period'. But you get the idea. People quickly realized that while at low doses oxycodone IS subjectively similar to codeine, but it's quiite different at high doses.

Then of course the third wave was entirely due to Perdue and their aggressive sales tactics. Apparently the KEY advantage of OxyContin was that it was supposed to relieve pain for 12 hours. Doctors were told that if a given dose didn't last for 12 hours, the patient simply needed a larger dose. Of course, new studies reveal that OxyContin's mean analgesic duration is just 9.6 hours so patients would end up on a roller coaster with euphoria for a few hours, analgesia extending a few more hours and then a couple of hours in which they would begin to go into withdrawal.

Now I ONLY consume oxycodone for severe chronic pain. I'm not looking for anything else. Recently a 24 hour formulation has arrived on the UK market. Onexila XL s supposed to be a once-a-day format but the BNF provides absolutely no information on the product. It used to be available in only one strength - 80mg. But I've noted that more recently 10, 20, 40 as well as 80mg formulations are now available. I am VERY tempted to ask about this product but I cannot find any data on bioavailability or on the true duration of action. I don't want to discover that it only lasts for 20 hours. I also considered asking about methadone but in the UK, Physeptone tablets are solely used to treat pain (being taken every 8 or 12 hours) whereas methadone linctus is solely used to treat opioid dependence. In the last few years there have been saveral shortages of the tablets BUT UK law means doctors cannot legally prescribe the linctus for pain!
Might be shorthand but when I said OC I meant the mundipharma pills that say OC on them, the green 80s, which I think look the same as purdue formulation OC80s. Idk
 
I believe one of the highest dose extended release formulations of hydromorphone contains 24 mg hydromorphone. It exists under the brand name Palladon.


Maybe the BNF site is out of date? But it's the BNF British doctors refer to when considering the prescribing of a drug.

I''ve noted that in the UK, the largest dose formulations of oxycodone are lower than many nations - it seems for some reason it's considered safer to prescribe 2 or more pills at a time than to have a single pill with an ENORMOUS dose in it.
 
Remember getting to a point where seeing those little 3’s would make me laugh. I was using 3 x 24’s or 30’s a day. But my fav way to crush it was in a shot glass with rhe butt end of a screwdriver. You don’t lose much that way and it grinds it up fairly decent . Or I used the bottom end of a mug with the convex part of the spoon to crush but the beads tend to shoot all diff directions when you do them like that. If you have low tolerance I’d suggest starting with maybe 2 or 3 snorted. Remember grind it down to a fine powder because there is wax in those beads . Enjoy. But be careful
 
Hydromorph Contin 3/6/9/12/18/24/30mg XR capsules

Pulverized little beads in green 3mg capsules X 2 …..6mg pulverized…..add 1cc warm water into clean spoon/cooker stir, add filter, draw up in an oral syringe for rectal administration

IV injection is the ultimate ROA but must be a pharmaceutical product- Injectable formulation in branded vial

Very dangerous with crushing oral XR preparations …..so draw up as outlined above for rectal administration

Lay on side on bed , insert oral syringe into lubricated rectum 3/4 length of your pinky finger, hand cream applied to syringe tip…..push in warm solution of 6mg HM solution and leave there, lay there for several minutes while HM solution absorbs through blood vessel rich environment inside rectum ……a very noticeable warmth and opioid pleasure will wash over you in a few min…..bypassing the liver entering the bloodstream directly for much higher bioavailability

I’ve done this many times with HM Contin 9mg blue capsules …usually 2 or 3 pulverized into fine powder

HM Contin 30mg “Red Rockets” large red capsules of Hydromorphone 30mg ….wow, that’s a HM Contin capsule

HM Contin 30mg
Adderall XR 30mg
Valium 10mg X 2
Xanax 1mg X 2
Lyrica 150mg

An amazing oral cocktail for experienced user
 
Hydromorphone is one substance that I have wanted to try for a very, very long time! I dont know whether my wish will come true someday but it sounds like something I would enjoy very much! Its unusual that I find it impossible to acquire something for many years, hydro sounds like something very special. Maybe oneday!
 
Ive never quite understood qhat people mean when they experience an opiate "rush"? Like a meth rush, coke rush, even the rush you get from smoking a bong, but i get what we call morphine rushes from heroin thats clearly got morphine leftover, the pins n needles thing but I dont quite understand an opiate rush so hydromorphone grabs my attention as I hear it is the cocaine of opiates, or the main rushy one. True?
 
Ive never quite understood qhat people mean when they experience an opiate "rush"

In the UK at least, growing up I would hear time-served opioid users describe the 'flash' of an opioid with a fast onset. I do appreciate that as a descriptin, it's no more enlightening, but maybe a search for that term might help? Just a thought.
 
The Exalgo ER tablets are the best for playground fun. They split in half and one side is pure hydromorphone without binders or time-release. They can be used buccal and the rush hits over and over. The 32mg ones dissolve over 30 mins buccal. Next to IV, I would say buccal is the best way.
 
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