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Anybody envious of people who don't use drugs?

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My family doesn't use drugs (the illegal ones anyway), neither do my friends. They're all happy enough, whenever I am with them or going out with them they express happiness at the strangest things. They will rant and rave about great cups of coffee, a really nice meal, stuff like that -"Is there anything better than a nice cup of coffee and a piece of cake".

When I hear stuff like that I feel so different, like I am smarter than them, more in touch with reality yet also much inferior.

Overall I am not unhappy about my interest in drugs. Drug use is a everlasting section of society, it's not necessarily bad, it's just too easily damaging. Basically I feel that my personal drug use sets me miles above my "politically brainwashed" peers while still making me ten leagues below them.

I'm jealous of them, yet I also laugh at them.
 
Yes and no. I'm jealous that they don't have to deal with the struggles and temptations. But I feel like they are missing out on part of life.

Drug use raises your standard of what you require to achieve happiness through its effect on dopamine and other chemicals. I haven't fried my brain but I might have impaired my body's ability to appropriately appreciate the simpler things in life.

I got to where I hated everyone and everything because I was unhappy on the inside. I can't and don't want to quit. Now that I took the blue pill, I opened Pandora's box, I ate the forbidden fruit...I can't go back. But after cleaning up my act a bit I get real enjoyment eating some home made tuna salad. And that's something I can't let drugs take away from me.
 
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I am jealous of people whove been thru a wicked drug addiction and got thru to the other side. I feel like they have an understanding of life and its demons better than most people, and appreciate the little things more like a cup of coffee or an awesome red velvet cupcake. I think they see more value in things. I am still on my journey of recovery,but i noticed now i love doing gay little things like cooking, redecorating my house, or writing my grandma a letter.

As for people whove never touched drugs, i feel bad they dont get to experience those killer ups and downs of the drug life because it leaves a naivete to them. But then again im happy theyve found their own path. I dont know, i have different feelings about this towards different types of people. Like some people who are always so down and bitchy and think their life sucks, when really they have a lot going for them, i want them to experience what its like to be dopesick in a jail cell or homeless with a negative ten windchill, sick, no money and no dope. Or people that are always super happy and have lived a sheltered life, i want them to know life is not all roses.
 
Only on weekdays..

But the funny this is, these people who don't use "drugs" drink, and if they're young especially, they are getting drunk and hungover. My drugs aren't so toxic that they expel themselves from me and make me feel like death the next day.
 
I was certainly envious of people that didn't use drugs when I was in the midst of a heroin addiction that lasted about 12 years or so.
I was jealous because they didn't have to find cash everyday and someone to score from just to feel normal again.
I do think that folk who don't take drugs can also miss out on some amazing experiences that just can't be had without the use of drugs.
I felt sorry for friends in the early 90's that didn't take Ecstasy pills because I wanted them to feel as good as the rest of us did.
I do feel though that somehow I have lost the ability to enjoy anything properly, I never really feel true happiness or joy about anything these days so I'm envious of those people that haven't messed their brain chemistry up.
 
Your friends and family are missing out. You should try to get one of your friends to do a psychedelic with you. That one experience can turn them into a drug user for life, it sure did with me........
 
weekend addiction said:
Yes and no. I'm jealous that they don't have to deal with the struggles and temptations. But I feel like they are missing out on part of life.

Drug use raises your standard of what you require to achieve happiness through its effect on dopamine and other chemicals. I haven't fried my brain but I might have impaired my body's ability to appropriately appreciate the simpler things in life.

I got to where I hated everyone and everything because I was unhappy on the inside. I can't and don't want to quit. Now that I took the blue pill, I opened Pandora's box, I ate the forbidden fruit...I can't go back. But after cleaning up my act a bit I get real enjoyment eating some home made tuna salad. And that's something I can't let drugs take away from me.
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well said, man.
 
Yes I am quite envious.

In highschool I remember a teacher showing a line graph of the way normal people experience happiness compared to a person on "drugs" yes they didn't go into detain on what drug, just drugs. And she explained it in simple terms being on drugs will make you feel better than you could ever feel as a natural human from natural human experiences. I do wish I could go back to that day in 11th grade Psychology and tell the teacher and the rest of the class she was wrong.

My first kiss will never be topped by any drug experience. heroin, MDMA (two drugs I found to produce the most euphoric feeling for myself) never came close to the feeling of "first love". There were many other experiences that could not be topped by any drug, but first love comes to mind.

I do envy those who find happiness in the smallest things (I know I once did) such as basking in the sun by the pool, a great meal, a new movie. I feel like a vampire of sorts. Alive and watching but unable to experience the world like the others. My idea of happiness is on the most extreme of levels that simple happiness does not suffice.

If I could go back I would choose never to experience what I did. I don't want to know the surge of love and unity from MDMA, I don't want to think of the ideas I could create while on stimulants, I don't want to know the comfort heroin, I don't want to wonder from the experiences of psychedelics. I would rather go through life blind, oblivious and happy.
 
Bigfanofthemdrugs said:
well said, man.
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Means a lot from you BFOD. Love the user name. I give a stoned chuckle every time I read it.

GodSpeedK said:
I'm more envious of drug users who seem to glide through life and their use never seems to impact on them negatively.
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I hate these people only when they glide through life with other's wings (over-assistance). Like the 35 year old that still has a good standard of living because they live with their parents. But they still don't try and save money and just buy lots of vacations and shit.
 
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No, not at all.
I'm surprised at how many people wish ill-will towards those who don't have a drug addiction.
"I want them to experience how being dope sick feels!" "So it's not all roses!" fuck off! That's just fucked up.
How selfish & greedy of you people. Just because you're jealous they have what you call a "Better life" doesn't mean they should experience something horrible.
& I thought I was fucked up..

Anyways,
I don't envy those who chose a sober life. Why? I don't know, I just don't. I was once sober too, and I hated it.
 
Not sure how much drugs have changed me as a person. I've always found activities; darts, pool & w/e very boring. Unless you're doing it with your best friend-- ZZZZZZZ like really. Some team sports can be like that 2 depending on mood. Maybe I might like it.

Now that I don't do drugs as much I feel I'm trying to take more of an interest to these things, or more of an 'attempt' to do these things or be involved in. Because everyone else is into stuff like that-- playing sports, etc. What else are you going to do if you're not doing drugs and you want to socialize with others. I feel like a alien sometimes and get very bored but I'm making major improvements and I can see it.

I sometimes just prefer to sit with good friends and smoke weed. And if we feel like it: sit in silence. Not always, but for 30 minutes or so on the odd occasion. It feels natural and it's just awesome.

I don't like the over-the-top sober ppl. Especially the ones that are anti-drugs. (subjective, sometimes the older anti-drugs ppl can be cool).

Sadly the most of the public seem to fit that OTT person. I really need to do some travel.


If I had to say, I would sometimes think that sober ppl need 2 experience MDMA, mushrooms or LSD one time. That's just how i feel for a wee second :/
 
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Seyer said:
Thats a bad idea imo. Psychedelics, like every other drug, arent for everyone. Never try to get someone to use any drug with you, let them come to you about it.
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I disagree, somewhat. I agree that you shouldn't "TRY" to get someone to do pysche's with you, however, I don't see a problem with offering it to them.
 
stardust.hero said:
Yes I am quite envious.


My first kiss will never be topped by any drug experience. heroin, MDMA (two drugs I found to produce the most euphoric feeling for myself) never came close to the feeling of "first love". There were many other experiences that could not be topped by any drug, but first love comes to mind.

I do envy those who find happiness in the smallest things (I know I once did) such as basking in the sun by the pool, a great meal, a new movie. I feel like a vampire of sorts. Alive and watching but unable to experience the world like the others. My idea of happiness is on the most extreme of levels that simple happiness does not suffice.

If I could go back I would choose never to experience what I did. I don't want to know the surge of love and unity from MDMA, I don't want to think of the ideas I could create while on stimulants, I don't want to know the comfort heroin, I don't want to wonder from the experiences of psychedelics. I would rather go through life blind, oblivious and happy.
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So so so true. I wish i never knew the cozinessnof heroin, because laying with my partner in hed watching a movie pales in comparison to how it feels when dipped. The thoughts, fun, creativity and self entertainment that meth provides me makes me unable to partake in anything creative while sober because i just dont feel the inspiration or excitement anymore, knowing how much more fun and creative and motivated i am while on meth. I dont get that inspiration while sober. And ive created some pretty unique scrapbooks and collages while tweaking, but theyre difficult for me to look at sober because they depress me.

I wish i never knew the great feeling of mdma, because now i can never enjoy a party or rave knowing how into to the music and people and myself i used to be, it is an other wordly experience and without the drugs, i feel awkward and out of place.

Youre post is so relatable because i feel that even though im on my rocky road to recovery and try to take pleasure in the little things, they just dont bring me as much joy as they used to. I feel like an outsider, like everyone gets life but im missing out on understanding it. I feel the same way, id rather be naive and happy and never done drugs, none of them have enriched my life so much as to balance out the harm theyve done.

EDIT: hold your horses "junkie days" before you go around thrashing on others calling them fucked up and selfish. What I said was people who have so much in front of them (going to a good uni, have a great fam life with great financial support, paid for cars, housing, etc, people who have great things but choose to bitch how much their life is crap or theyre not happy with the car their mom bought them etc etc where if i had the chance for all that id take it all and stop drugs in an instant) i just want them to know that the life they have is not so bad and they should appreciate it, because they never know when it could slip through their fingers. I want to let them know that there is worse out there, MUCH worse, and what you have is valuable.

Because before i was a junkie, i took everything for granted. Now that I have seen the lows of life and know what its like to be on the streets, scrounging up five bucks to pay a day pass to ride the one nightly bus in la all night so i had somewhere warm to sit at night, having your only bag of belongings stolen from you leaving you with only the dirty clothes on your back, being sick in jail; i know can appreciate the simple things such as my freedom, and i take pride in things ive worked for such as putting a roof over my head, rebuying all the clothes in my closet, appreciating the food in my fridge

I just want others to appreciate and value what they have. Im not jealous, I am happy with my slice of the pie because i know i worked damn hard to get it back. I just hate seeing things being unappreciated and people being ungrateful, or not realizing that they got handed pretty good cards. I dont want them to know these evil things to torture them, just so they know that there are those types of things out there and it can happen to anyone, so work to keep what you have and love it.
 
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Seyer said:
Thats a bad idea imo. Psychedelics, like every other drug, arent for everyone. Never try to get someone to use any drug with you, let them come to you about it.
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JunkieDays said:
I disagree, somewhat. I agree that you shouldn't "TRY" to get someone to do pysche's with you, however, I don't see a problem with offering it to them.
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We just said the exact same thing. If I felt that offering was a bad idea, I would have mentioned it as well.
 
Seyer said:
We just said the exact same thing. If I felt that offering was a bad idea, I would have mentioned it as well.
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Nothing wrong with offering, but I always make sure to EXPLAIN first. Trying to explain what's happening to them while they're tripping can be a mess.
 
No, but I wish I could be more like the people who didn't piss away years of their lives & are on the right track to being successful at my age, while I went fucking sideways for a while & am just now going forward. I see all of my friends about to finish uni and I am filled with "ughhhhhhhhhhhh"
 
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