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Any psychs with visuals but no mind fucks?

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Benp2312

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Are there any? I've had 25i a few times before and a majority of them ive had a bad time, anybody recommend me something that isnt super head fucky?
 
Bufotenin. Bufotenin is an extremely visual substance. It has almost none of the psychological effects, typical for classic psychedelics. No headfuck, no dissociation. No feeling of everlasting divine bliss and oneness with the cosmos either btw.. I guess this is true for bufo analogues as well, so for 5-AcO-DMT, 5-HO-DPT, etc.
 
I Personally find 25b nbome to be pure eye candy. I can think pretty straight on it compared to lsd or shrooms.
It can be quite confusing if you up the dose. Try a lower dose perhaps.
If you are looking for a chill substance than 4-HO/ACO MET is pretty visual and very easy to handle for most. So I would recommend them or even possiblly 4-ACO DET which I have heard is slightly weaker than 4-HO MET. I personally would stay away from 4-HO/ACO MIPT as I find it can get Wierd on you.
The visuals might not be as strong as nbomes but the expierence is nice and more 'fulfilling' I would say. Hope that helps.
Happy trails,
Nugz
 
Medium doses of 2c-i and 2c-b I find to be pretty clear headed.
They definitely have cognitive effects I just don't find them to be near as confusing as other psyches.
 
I guess 2c-b or 4-ho-met.

But visuals for me are a product of a head fuck. As soon as I 'let go' of the visuals I feel tapped in, and the thinking is what i find interesting.
 
Yeah that's as medium as it gets, even 20mg would be fine.

Also keep in mind that most NBOMe blotters are quite over-dosed, I'm sure you'll find one 2C-B pill or a normal dose of any psychedelic much more manageable.
 
Dracarys said:
Bufotenin. Bufotenin is an extremely visual substance. It has almost none of the psychological effects, typical for classic psychedelics. No headfuck, no dissociation. No feeling of everlasting divine bliss and oneness with the cosmos either btw.. I guess this is true for bufo analogues as well, so for 5-AcO-DMT, 5-HO-DPT, etc.
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Hmmm, maybe i will buy a toad...? Oops, been there done that...lol.
 
Dracarys said:
Try yopo. It can be smoked, snorted or taken sublingually. Trust me, there is no substance more visual, with less mindfuck, than bufotenin.
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The toad remark was an inside joke for those who can still remember Frank...I never really got to know him at all....WAAAAAH! Outside toad enclosures are not nearly as secure a one would think...hmmmm.
 
Dracarys said:
Try yopo. It can be smoked, snorted or taken sublingually. Trust me, there is no substance more visual, with less mindfuck, than bufotenin.
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Haven't tried it...yet. I can't imagine, though, that it is MORE visual than DMT, but maybe. I look forward to finding out one day. i am a person who gets minimal visuals on most substances....even a milligram+ of WoW won't do it like a 300mg IM shot of DMT as far as visuals go...for me, personally. I am peaking on 600mg. (should have done a gram) plug of mescaline HCl as we "speak", but still I can easily navigate...walk, talk, socialize...I could even drive if I had to, but would NEVER do that...so don't chastise me for something I "could" do...OK?

disclaimer: phuckingnutz does not condone or do even half the shit he says he does.

dis-disclaimer: he does SO!

Is the "duality of man" actually schizophrenia?

This is why there is a "no posting whilst tripping" rule.
 
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Whoa 5-HO-DPT is a remarkable suggestion! Bufotenin has always been so elusive and I've never really heard of synthetic bufotenin being used.. but I imagine that something like 5-HO-DiPT or 5-HO-DET may be orally active? Although still sensitive as indolols.

The 5-HO's shouldn't be that hard to make..

Was this ever a hyperlabs venture or other? Not completely missed I hope?

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Uh as for visuals without mindfuck, 2C-B, 2C-C and 2C-D all perform but only relatively... if the trip gets immersive enough it may become intense on all fronts. 4-HO-DiPT was also quite facile for me, even with K added, however that one too will probably fuck your mind if you don't dose carefully.
 
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I personally found that 1p-eth-lad was very managable mentally around the 75/100ug Mark with strong visuals as well as 2cb-fly being quite visually pleasing without too much head fuckery
 
phuckingnutz said:
Haven't tried it...yet. I can't imagine, though, that it is MORE visual than DMT, but maybe. I look forward to finding out one day. i am a person who gets minimal visuals on most substances....even a milligram+ of WoW won't do it like a 300mg IM shot of DMT as far as visuals go...for me, personally. I am peaking on 600mg. (should have done a gram) plug of mescaline HCl as we "speak", but still I can easily navigate...walk, talk, socialize...I could even drive if I had to, but would NEVER do that...so don't chastise me for something I "could" do...OK?

disclaimer: phuckingnutz does not condone or do even half the shit he says he does.

dis-disclaimer: he does SO!

Is the "duality of man" actually schizophrenia?

This is why there is a "no posting whilst tripping" rule.
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Bufotenin is just as visual as DMT. Actually, Bufotenin is like DMT with visual and auditory effects only. A non mind-altering version of DMT, basically.
 
Dracarys said:
Bufotenin is just as visual as DMT. Actually, Bufotenin is like DMT with visual and auditory effects only. A non mind-altering version of DMT, basically.
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Sice I haven't tried it and the DW only offers Cebil, so that it will probably be a while until I do. I guess what I disagree with is the part where DMT has "mind altering" effects...as far as mind fuckiness. I tend to remain , fairly, lucid during a DMT trip, but not totally, i do admit. I don't know if pure visuals w/out SOME mental aspect would be a little meh...IMO. I may be wrong...first time for everything.
I mean, does bufotenine have ANY mental effects? even later during the "digestion" portion...can't think of the word I want...you know...after. boy this mesc. has plenty of mental...all good as of yet....integration! THAT'S the word I wanted...is there even a need to integrate the trip or is it totally fluff?
 
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I've never seen visuals completely removed from inebriation, but in my experience the 2C-X series are probably your best bet.
 
kidklmx said:
Yeah that's as medium as it gets, even 20mg would be fine.

Also keep in mind that most NBOMe blotters are quite over-dosed, I'm sure you'll find one 2C-B pill or a normal dose of any psychedelic much more manageable.
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I have it in powdered form, will weigh with scales and parachute, or disolve and drink.
 
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