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Stimulants Any ex tweakers help me out, cant stop fiending. tips?

LonE1

LonE1

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I honestly can say this drug will not let me go. I think about meth all the time at random times and cant sleep, its starting to really weigh down on me....when I start tweaking I dont stop, but after this last 3 months of smoking meth everyday, I quit but just cannot stop thinking about it, does that feeling ever go away or am I doomed forever??

Been clean for 3 weeks, but still think about it everyday. Knowing lots of dealers doesnt help :/

Since quiting I dont want to talk to people or be around anyone, all i really want to do is eat and watch movies by myself when im not at work or school. I also have ZERO sexual drive.

Sucks cuz most my friends right now are tweakers so i been kinda avoiding them, really is a pain. Got involved in CMA but not many CMA meetings in the town im in so its tough.

This is very out of the ordinary for my posts, most likely because im clean from drugs, but any help would really help. Thanks much love.
 
Congrats on 3 weeks clean!

The intense cravings DO dwindle over time, but it can take a while. Depending on how long/much you used, it could be weeks, months or years before it goes away completely. Even then you have to take it day by day. But it does get better. People recover from meth addiction every day.

If I were quitting something as powerful as meth, I'd probably step down to something less potent (perhaps 2-FMA or Adderall) before going cold turkey. Of course those can cause addictions of their own, but it's better than a meth relapse IMO. The best thing right now is healthy food, sleep and relaxation. Keep your mind occupied with work and hobbies to avoid boredom. Sounds like you're on the right track :)
 
The best tip is to reject the take or quit approach. There's no need to quit. Instead, try to spot a time (there will be one) when you don't feel like doing meth and use it to quit for a few days or for as long as you can. The point of this is to limit your meth use to week-ends so that you can function in society.

This prevents the pain and demoralization of relapse and limits damage to self.
 
^ ideally that approach is great and works for SOME people but for others, any use leads to the total inability to control their use and they spiral out of control.

One very simplistic way to differentiate addiction from drug (ab)use is if someone CAN control their use. Although many people lie to themselves and falsely believe they can long after they've lost control.
 
Yea Ksa and K2L have good points.

It's really awesome you've made it 3 weeks, that's really hard. I remember the last time getting sober was real hard, as it was my second true attempt, and I was a lot more cynical about the whole thing at that point due to the fact that the relapse from my original clean time ended up lasting around 2 1/2 years and only ended because I got a MRSA infection from banging coke with an old needle.

Initially my drug of choice had been downers but it sort of switched around to IV come and other stimulants like MDPV, and I remember thinking how I just couldn't live without the shit..luckily though, that's not true, and while it can take a really long time to get out of that funk, you will eventually get to a better place (although sadly for some really long term users, irreparable damage can be caused). I would imagine that you'll start to feel better by the end of four weeks. Not great, but better. A lot of it also has to do with keeping yourself busy and start up on some hobbys.

It's an uphill battle but not an impossible one.
 
With time, the urges will start to dwindle and come less frequently. When exactly you're going to not think about it so much anymore, nobody can tell you.. but, it will always be a part of you, that little bug in the back of your head. People still get cravings even many years sober.. however, they've learned how to squash them and not let them fester to the point where a relapse is imminent.

You're on the right path. 3 weeks clean is a great achievement but keep in mind it's not a very long time at all. The first few months to a year is the hardest. If you can get through your cravings though, occupy your time with hobbies, exercise, etc, things will get much easier.
 
dont switch to heroin thats awful advice.

you have to find some things to do. force yourself to be around people. it helps the most and takes your mind off the issue. or listening to good music, very loud.

going to the gym / cardio is one of the best things, that and eating healthy. try those things and im sure youll feel better much more quickly.
 
i are spectre said:
dont switch to heroin thats awful advice.

you have to find some things to do. force yourself to be around people. it helps the most and takes your mind off the issue. or listening to good music, very loud.

going to the gym / cardio is one of the best things, that and eating healthy. try those things and im sure youll feel better much more quickly.
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We are Generation Y, we grew out of these things haha :)

We are the future Mars colonists, installing reverse water gas shift atmosphere processors to terraform. We don't go to the gym to impress females ^.^
 
I'd say talk to a psychiatrist about substitute therapy. Aripiprazole and Bupropion have both been found to be effective substitutes.
 
Modafanil is supposed to be effective for meth WDs and cravings. It's also not addictive like Adderall. Maybe look into that? I have never been addicted to meth but modafanil helped my PAWS after a ten year methadone habit.
 
I love the way you hate the fact it's still got you somehow...by the balls...this is your greatest asset. It's a fight. Nail and tooth. You want to win. Good. Because you're not going to like losing. Losing is harder than fighting. Don't forget that.
Did someone suggest using heroin? I'm sure you know what to do with that idea...
The suggestion to see a Doc to get yourself involved with other drugs...this is absurd. Maybe if you're still struggling in a years time from now, and you're injecting yourself...
You will be fine as long as you fight it. It's a long fight...maybe longer than the time period when you were using...don't be fooled into quick-fix solutions...
Get fucking pissed, with yourself, your addiction...it's all in your mind. The day will come when suddenly you realise you haven't thought about meth for ages...and you will know it's over. You win. Exercise, good eating, new interests...all good strategy... This is how you get out. In 6 months time, you will know why did you fight your way out...those tweaking friends of yours...better them than you...

Besides, you're winning the fight. It's looking real good.
 
I just wanted to say thanks for all of the love and support. I appreciate all the advice given. Being that I want to say that I am the kind of addict that started off on dexedrine and instantly went to meth again....this was the last relapse. I still have 3 weeks clean.

Id also like to add that I am kicking benzos as well, so I just feel all over the place. But the cravings for meth are there, I dont fiend for benzos, I just want the W/D symptoms to go away, so its just a living hell.

I spent all night thinking about taking my dexedrine, but played the tape out as others have told me to do....it would lead to me doing meth. I have money and live alone...its very hard to not think about. I have a huge appetite since my 1-2 grams a day for 3 months habit is gone, which I guess is a good thing, but I cannot sleep, I get 1-2 hours a day. Last night I got none.

Im just hoping for the best, but I really appreciate the advice derschieber gave me...I get SO angry at my addict mentality. And no im not doing heroin LOL. I will update, thank you guys. seriously the support helps me more than you guys realize.
 
Hey LonE1...Well done...3 weeks = kicking ass...I know from my own history with addiction. It took me a long time to come up with 2 days clean...I remember how I would be crying on my knees pleading to God...and by afternoon, back to drugs...really it was the hardest fight of my life...took months...at one stage I booked myself into some rehab-place. They offered 11 weeks live-in. Not expensive. I only stayed for 2 weeks... I still had the daily struggle in my mind. One day, maybe 4 or 5 months later, I suddenly became aware that I had not thought about drugs for several weeks...perhaps even months...it's hard to imagine maybe...but this was how it happened for me. Suddenly aware that I'm no longer fighting this...I was filled with a feeling of joy and liberation, it has remained with me to this day.
...I hated the way I was...the way this thing had power over me...

You know you have to win this.
Sleep or no sleep, one month or 3 months...that 2 week stay at this lodge helped me. It was really fucked being there. It was hard for me to stay there voluntary. Everyone else was there as part of their probation, or part of their suspended jail-sentence etc...but it was good for me.
If possible, put yourself into some radically different situation, one that's healthy nevertheless. Sleeping trouble, living alone and not broke can be used as an asset maybe. Go offer to labour for brick-layers or stone-masons for a week or two. Loading scaffolds and mixing mud for 3 brickies will put your body under all kinds of stress-loads. I believe this kind of change can force a very rapid reset...so to speak. Certainly your food will taste great, water will be delicious, sleep will be so sweet, and your body becomes hard as nails. It's just an idea...it will almost certainly kick your addictions ass up and down the road...a simple yet heavy-weight strategy. Your addiction will be crying home to mummy :)

You will do what you have to and win this. You know you can. You are.
Best wishes.
 
LonE1 said:
I honestly can say this drug will not let me go. I think about meth all the time at random times and cant sleep, its starting to really weigh down on me....when I start tweaking I dont stop, but after this last 3 months of smoking meth everyday, I quit but just cannot stop thinking about it, does that feeling ever go away or am I doomed forever??

Been clean for 3 weeks, but still think about it everyday. Knowing lots of dealers doesnt help :/

Since quiting I dont want to talk to people or be around anyone, all i really want to do is eat and watch movies by myself when im not at work or school. I also have ZERO sexual drive.

Sucks cuz most my friends right now are tweakers so i been kinda avoiding them, really is a pain. Got involved in CMA but not many CMA meetings in the town im in so its tough.

This is very out of the ordinary for my posts, most likely because im clean from drugs, but any help would really help. Thanks much love.
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Do not give up after three weeks, I would say this is the most crucial point in your recovery. You must invision yourself prior to ever taking meth there was a point you never needed it, you must also invision your body getting healthier with each day and watch your addiction slip away, it will get easier and you will live a better life think about what is actually important to you.

Make sure to eat healthy and take vitamins along with exercise, drink alot of water and cranberry juice, clean out that body, it should get easier soon best of luck
 
If nothing in your life changes besides stopping the meth, the desire will persist. You need to move forward. You need to make new friends, force yourself to make productive changes and this desire will fade with time.

If this is too much, you need a support system to help you through this period - the best method is through formal counseling or 12-step groups but most are resistant to this and so just keep repeating the same cycle of torturing themselves getting clean, being miserable, going back, facing the same problems their use causes over and over again, AGAIN getting clean but not changing anything and it starts over again and they repeat this for year effectively getting nowhere.

Unless you break the cycle and make real changes, it will just continue. I have substantial formal education in this field and would love to help you during this difficult time so please feel free to private message me and I can not only give some advice on how to get past this, but LISTEN to what you're facing right now. Very few people can do this alone; nearly everyone needs some kind of support. If people could do this on their own, they'd never get to the point where it was ever a problem.
 
Doesn't wellbutrin help with meth WD's?
If that's true then that could be another option.
 
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