Heroin Any cons to plugging heroin versus snorting it?

[BaybeX]

Well, the plugging part is a pretty big con, imo.

God damn, I wish people would get over this whole 'plugging is gross&gay' bullshit.

.:. Don't do it! My friend did it once and it turned him gay.
.:. Only those homosexual people plug. You should just IV instead.
.:. Plugging is so gay man- My asshole is exit only. Ha. Ha. Ha.....................

^There is AT LEAST one post with one of those comments in every single plugging thread on Bluelight. It's so irritating. If a person wants to plug and you don't like it- then don't fucking read plugging threads.. and don't bother posting in the damn thread either. It's amazing that the same people that are sooo against plugging are the same people that spend a ton of time littering every single one of those threads with those type of comments I wrote above.

Just let people do what they want to do. If someone wants to put drugs up their ass, LET THEM! What the fuck difference does it make in your life?



My apologies for the rant, everybody.

 

[avcpl]

^ especially since several posters here are female....so how plugging makes them gay, I have no idea...

I feel your frustration; I have to take time away from this site periodically. The immaturity and rudeness can be hard to take sometimes.

 

[artaxerxes]

Thank you BaybeX for addressing the stupidity that often revolves around a fear of catching "teh gay" from plugging. I've plugged numerous substances including opiates of all sorts but I think that most previous posters have covered technique pretty well.

The biggest problem associated with plugging is that if you have a habit, or develop one, you're unlikely to avoid constipation. If you can manage to change your diet (my fave since it requires eating a fiber-rich and fruit/veg diet that keeps the addict healthier than otherwise) or if you use medicinal aids, as an addict you can avoid constipation, but it's pretty difficult to maintain that day in and day out. So I'd say that plugging is probably most effective for the chipper.

 

[Bojangles69]

***BOJANGLES TRIED AND TRUSTED PLUGGING TECHNIQUE*** =]

You must be kidding me I honestly have not seen that gay comment once yet and I've seen quite a lot of plugging threads. But if people are actually trying to associate plugging drugs to turning gay... well thats just really gay.

I wanted to mention a quick tip about how to prevent leakage when you pull the syringe out. Its kinda common sense but kinda not.

When you stick anything up your ass it takes about a minute or 2 for your colon to stretch and retain a bit of "slack" for the drugs to deposit. So what I mean is this. First stick the syringe up there as deep as it will go. My syringe is about 3 1/2 - 4 inches. Its not the actual syringe I stick up there though I cut out a plastic tube from a windex bottle and hotglued it to the part a pin would connect to. Wash out the windex tube obviously and cut it to length. You will notice on ANY syringe, these windex tubes will slide right over the "mouth" of the syringe. Its a perfect/tight fit. Although if you heat the end of the windex tube with a lighter for a few seconds it makes it much easier to push on.

After I do that I like to take hot glue, or if you're using some other type of glue make sure its nontoxic although the glue will still not really be going up your ass anyway. Just the windex tube, and the glue kinda sits against the edge of your butthole. You'll see when you do it.

Ok to the point now. Stick that bitch all the way up there. I have to dip my finger in mineral oil (mineral oil really works the best imo) and I coat all around the windex tube. ALSO, the part where you cut the tube will be sharp, you MUST heat it with a ligther so the plastic melts very breifly and rounds off. I tried sticking that thing up my ass with the sharp edges even with mineral oil and OMG it felt like a fucking porcupine getting shoved up my ass. So heat it till it rounds off, very simple to do with a lighter once again.

Now before you stick the syringe up there, (going a bit backwards for a second) you need to pull air into the syringe. If you don't do this, you will notice when you shoot it theres still some liquid in the tube and you will waste a decent part of your dose. So turn the syringe upside down and pull in just about 1cc of air (or 2ccs just to be safe). So now you have your heroin/liquid solution (or sub w/e you're pluggin) and also have a nice pocket of air inside the syringe.

I position my body by laying my back on the floor, right up against the corner of a wall. I basically rest my feet vertically on the wall with my ass propped up as vertical as possible (so the back of my ass is more on the wall then the floor) and if you use a pillow you can gain some leverage and make it much more comfortable. But basically you want your butthole somewhat vertical so gravity takes the liquid down. And most of your back will be on the floor while your ass/legs are up against the wall. Its not uncomfortable at all when you try it.

Now turn the syringe upside down so the air pocket is above the solution. If you don't do it this way then you are defeating the whole point of having the air pocket. Work the syringe all the way up there (although you're actually working it downwards since your butt is pointing vertically upwards). Sit for 1 minute and DO NOT squeeze the trigger yet. Let your colon adjust to the tube. It will feel weird but definitely worth the wait imo. After a minute or so, 2 to be safe, what you do is pull the syringe out just about 1 inch. If you stick it in 4 inches, pull it out to 3 when you shoot. If it goes in 3 inches, pull it out to 2. Although I would trust only going in 2 inches, that seems to shallow to me.

What happens by pulling the syringe out a bit, is your colon will temporarily retain the shape of the tube, so when you squirt the liquid, it shoots right into the "pocket" you formed by pulling the syringe out 1 inch. And if your butt is vertical like it should be, there will be NO WAY in the world for anything to leak out.

A tip: I saw someone write in here that they "tighten their butt" when they pull the syringe out. Believe it or not this is a really bad idea. When you tighten your butt (in effort to tighten your butthole around the syringe to stop it from leaking) what you effectively do is compress your entire colon exactly where you just shot your dose. Trust me when I say you will effectively squeeze half the dose right out of your ass by doing this. Your colon has to be relaxed. Don't worry about your butthole being tight because it will naturally put tension on the syringe regardless of you tightening your butt muscles. You will compress your colon to a pancake like I said, and I've had doses pour right out of my ass by doing that. When you pull it out, do not contract your muscles at all, and it doesn't matter if you pull it out fast or slow imo. I've never noticed a difference.

This is my proven "anti-leakage" technique. Developed and approved by me. Try it out and I guarantee you will like it. And like another poster said in here sometimes its better to use a bit more liquid then a bit less. Although not a lot. You generally don't want a lot more than 3ml up there imo. 2ml is usually what I work with for the doses I do. If you only use 1ml and shoot it straight into a log of shit, chances are all of that 1ml will get trapped inside the poop (gross I know). But if you use more water, chances are you will break the poop or the water will find a way to leak out. Its too much pressure for even a big log of poop. And as you squeeze it into the shit, the pressure will pop out a hole in the poop, causing it to leak out and not trap your dose at all.

If you are worried that you hit a log, don't do anything for about 3-4 mins. If it doesn't feel like the dose is kicking in then after a few minutes you can begin to contract/loosen your colon. It will be ok at this point because most of your colon will be sealed shut. If you can't effectively squeeze the poop like a sponge (you shouldn't have any fucking shit up there anyway) so it leaks out the dose. Then your only other option is to stick a bit longer of a syringe up there, and do circles with it inside your ass. Thats a bit too much for me, although I would imagine it would untrap the dose merely by turning the solid poop more into a muddy diarhea, or just tinier pieces of poop in general.

Ok that enough on this topic. As gross as it seems pluggin really has its benefits for certain substances and its just stupid otherwise to take those certain substance orally. Like morphine and suboxone. Heroin I personally haven't tried yet. But for morph/sub it makes a massive difference all around in both intensity and duration of the high. I am the type of person who will not stick anything into my viens, so pluggin is something I wind up doing quite a bit.

 

[Mora Fiend]

Thank you BaybeX for addressing the stupidity that often revolves around a fear of catching "teh gay" from plugging

I dunno man....my best friend's cousin's college roomate shook hands with a guy that plugged once and the next day BAM he caught 'teh gay'....so maybe there's more to it...

 

[smackcraft]

Sorry but advising to push it as far as it can go is not good harm reduction advice, you can damage your insides doing that

Its not about keeping it from leaking thats important its from keeping your self from doing harm thats the main priority

Anyway all you need to do is clench your butt like when ur dying to do a turd but need to keep it in till you get to the bathroom and it will stop it from leaking

 

[Mora Fiend]

^ True, but Bojangle's post is pretty much a 100% safe and thoughtful method for rectal administration and with the size of the syringes and such he's talking about there will be no harm at all if you follow his method properly. Im not saying you couldn't potentially rip a hole in your colon if you go shoving rigid pieces of plastic up your ass, but in his post he points that out and offers solutions to prevent this very problem from happening.

Really though Bojangles, I have never thought of the 'gravity feed' method you have described and I am going to try it for Easter, thanks for the insightful post man!

 

[Bojangles69]

Absolutely and yeh you are definitely not ripping your colon if you read the entire post and what I wrote. The most important thing is after you cut the plastic melt it with a lighter, it will smooth it out completely so its nice and round, takes about 5 seconds to do.

And the max length I usually use is 4 inches, like mora said. So I can't see what that would do. Maybe if you shoved a 9 inch tube up there, but thats not what I recommended.

Also, contracting your colon right after you shoot the dose is a horrible idea. I wrote right in the post that I've done that and squeezed the dose straight out of my ass. Id put my finger back there and it would be liquid all over the place and bye bye dose. After you shoot it, you should not contract your muscles at all. Just pull it out and you'll be good to go. If you work with gravity as your friend, you will do it perfectly everytime. G/luck and thanks mora for actually reading/understanding the post.

 

[smackcraft]

It always worked perfectly for me but everyone is different

 

[Mora Fiend]

^ Next time Smackcraft try not to clench it may work better. When you clench you are using the muscles in your colon that you usually use to shoot a deuce and it can actually push the dose out. I remember that happened to me the first time I plugged a Duragesic and I was damn near in tears for losing most of the dose.

Either way though man give it a shot without clenching and youll have more success I guarantee it. Also it's kind of hard to learn how to not clench because it's not exactly natural to toss solutions up your ass but if you focus you can do it.

 

[waldo777]

Hahaha damn we were doing so good--not a single homosexual reference until now! Oh well, back on subject...

So it seemed to have worked, I am still very concerned about loosing my dose to feces, or to feces that are stuck to the wall of my colon/rectum as I've been a constipated addict for years. So I had a thought....it is gross just to warn everyone, but I'd like to hear opinions please:

What if I were to purchase a small, thin dildo and insert that into my anus very quickly before I plug and after having a bowel movement. My thinking is that should there be any fecal matter that could interfere with absorption, a quick in-n-out with a dildo would not only push back the feces out of the way, but would also serve the purpose that a "dip stick" for checking a cars oil serves. ---that is, once pushed in and pulled out, if there is any fecal matter on the dildo you know its dirty up there, whereas if the dildo comes out clean you not only cleared the way, but also would have the proof that the rectum is clean. Does that sound like a decent idea?

 

[Mora Fiend]

^ I would suggest just using a Fleet enema man they're designed to clean your colon out and they're quite cheap. I really couldn't suggest using a dildo to guage the shittiness of your colon, and honestly man I defend pluggers 100% for choosing this as a ROA due to it's safety and effectiveness, but the dildo idea just sounds unnecessary.

 

[smackcraft]

im not doing the whole gay oh noes thing but that made me laugh .. thanks

You get things called an anal douche (shower in french) which people use before doing anal sex , that might help lol

 

[waldo777]

Basically I would certainly LIKE to avoid enemas, douches and dildos! But I gotta think my rectum is sooo backed up due to going #2 once a week if lucky, that I wanna make sure its clear up there, or rather clear enough---to make the whole plugging ROA worthwhile. If I have the time today ill use this ROA for my 1st dose to better gauge its efficacy.

 

[smackcraft]

well you could use laxivo to help, its a great laxative drink, believe me i was bad for having constipation and just one of them drinks every few days helps me go much more frequent

Another i just remembered is Movicol .. its like laxivo but better imo

 

[1josephjohn]

I can't believe people would ever try coke crack or heroin,I swear I'm the only one who hasn't!

 

[waldo777]

Ive heard mixed comments about enemas. Some say that using an enema actually loosens feces in the upper portions of one's colon/intestines and that these feces, (which would not have interfered w/ absorption before the enema) travel towards the anus and thus block absorption of a given solution. Others say that an enema beforehand is vital if one hasn't recently had a bowel movement.
In regards to enemas,
1) Is a saline enema (which i assume is the "chemical enema" people refer to) fine to use. (Im talking about very infrequent use, not an everyday type of thing, and when i say "fine", i mean: will it or wont it irritate the membranes to an extent that absorption is compromised?)

2) what about mineral oil enemas?

3) and how long between enema-bowel movement, should one wait before plugging?

thanks in advance

 

[b4rd]

Well, there is more bioavailability.

This can be either a pro or con, depending on your viewpoint...

But id call it pro

 

[Mora Fiend]

Waldo if you're into the enema idea then look into what the porn stars do before they do anal scenes. They do something, probably an enema, before they do their scenes and it'll probably work for you as well. Get on Google bro!

 

[Bojangles69]

OMG as hard as I laughed at the dildo idea really makes me question my emotional maturity. But that was classic, thank you for that. Will not make any comments and I don't think you're gay but I did lmfao reading that post.

I've never done an enema I do something called a "really hard last squeeze" as I'm shitting in the hopes of rocketing the last 4-6 inches or so of shit out the end of my colon. I find it works lol. But for real, when you poop, even when constipated, as you feel like the poop is about to end, squeeze as hard you possibly can till your face turns red. I've been plugging all sorts of things for a while and find by doing this you:

1) Not only contract the end of your colon (part that snips the shit like scissors aka butthole) but actually contract a good part of your interior colon (whats that? large intensine? idk) and by doing this, when you release, it pulls the shit back up into your intenstines. Creating a gap at the end perfect for pluggin.

2) there is no #2 lol

But I've always pooped like this, and so far am batting a perfect game plugwise.

ALSO, the most important thing imo. Many people don't seem to realize this, but when you take opiates it constipates you (thats not the part I mean they don't realize) it makes your poop hard. Therefore after you poop, if there IS poop at the end of your colon, and you stick your injector up there, you WILL and I say WILL (because I've felt it several times) FEEL the injector go into the solid log. It does NOT feel the same as sticking an injector into an empty colon. You will feel a lot more pressure, and it will feel a lot more uncomfortable.

THEREFORE, when that happens, simply do not push the plunger down. Pull out the injector, and don't inject again till you either shit that last bit out or enema it.

I have stuck my syringe into poop before, its hard solid poop (this concept does not work if you're in wds however) and have taken out the injector to save my dose. I would imagine everyone can feel this happen, because the poop pushes out against your colon and adds more pressure than if the poop was not there. It will actually feel like a dildo going in your ass (*may feel like a dildo I mean lol) because as you push the little injector in, you push the poop back a bit, which will feel different - so just pull out it the point.

Just food for thought. Good luck fellow pluggers.

-Bo