Mental Health Anxiety Disorders MEGA thread

I hate to type out a response that essentially "pitches" an antidepressant, but Cymbalta has proven to be a wildly surprising and beneficial tool to both my sister and mother, both of whom have, for years, suffered from extreme social anxiety and panic disorder. They, like I am today, were tethered to the confines of a benzodiazepine-dependent existence until they heeded the advice of our collective doctor and made the switch. To see them, vibrant as ever and with their anxieties under control today, provides continued pressure on my own self to switch to diazepam, get off the damn tranquilizers and make the switch to something more likely to proactively affect my life.

I write this post in simple suggestion to check out the medication with anyone's PCP. The advice of a doctor reigns supreme over anything I have, or ever will have, to say!

~ Vaya
 
Anxiety is through the fucking roof 2day.. I'm getting a new neighbor( sux ass) whom I don't care for and I just found out, the meds I have been taking for the last month I probably won't be able to get anymore bc insurance issues.. Was going to go to the "free" clinic but I dnt have all the paper work they want...nothing ever goes fucking right for me, EVER.. I'm just so fed up and tired of the whole fucking situation..idk wtf 2 do anymore..
 
I started getting anxiety after abusing MDMA quite a bit but since I cut back it's gone away to pretty much nothing. I have been using benzos on and off for insomnia (crappy short term solution) and I'll get some anxiety from the minor w/d's after not taking them.
 
is anyone on disability for anxiety?

i started training at a food job tonight. cool people work there and it is the better of food jobs, i guess. they just want you to have fun and remember really simple shit. the problem is, i can tell this is going to be a nightmare already. this is why i can't hold jobs. i haven't had one in a long time, and i need this. but i cant remember the simple shit because i feel like an anxious wreck and i can't be friendly enough for the same reason.

= i shouldn't be doing this job. i seriously felt like i wanted to cry and hide in a closet afterward even though i know it makes no sense. i feel sick still i don't know what to do, how to make the right people believe me.

should i get a lawyer or what? i don't even understand the process of applying and it's a complicated, drawn out process and i am feeling pretty hopeless about everything.
 
^^ Shit that sounds pretty hardcore. How old are you? I find that anxiety gradually lessens with age as you begin to accept who you are, and become generally more jaded/cynical/misanthropic.

What is it that makes you so anxious? Is it that you over-worry about how people perceive you?

It's important to see the humor in life and not take things so seriously. I mean if you think about it we're stuck in this bizarre reality with fleshy beings walking everywhere and acting like robots all trying to buy shiny things. That's some pretty funny shit right there.

Most drugs are a double-edged sword in regards to anxiety in that in the short-term they can be amazing but in the long-run they usually end up making you even more anxious. It's more important to learn strategies to deal with anxiety that merely trying to smother it. BUT having said that your anxiety seems so extreme that if I was personally in that situation I would look at chemical options that could at least help to get me back on my feet. I don't think I can mention some of them as they would be against TDS ethos, but 5-HTP works well as a mild anxiolytic.
 
^^ Shit that sounds pretty hardcore. How old are you? I find that anxiety gradually lessens with age as you begin to accept who you are, and become generally more jaded/cynical/misanthropic.

i've had the same thoughts as you about just socially accepting what you need to do, etc. i'm 24. i decided a lot of the reasons i hated myself were reasons i hated other people a long time ago. self-acceptance and all that. i don't think this is that.

What is it that makes you so anxious? Is it that you over-worry about how people perceive you?

It's important to see the humor in life and not take things so seriously. I mean if you think about it we're stuck in this bizarre reality with fleshy beings walking everywhere and acting like robots all trying to buy shiny things. That's some pretty funny shit right there.

i know what you mean, and i honestly wish that just knowing it - i could incorporate into my whole being and this shit would stop. the thing is, i really don't need others to perceive me in a positive way so much that it makes me that anxious. it isn't about what people think of me. i don't even know what it's about at this point. it's everything and nothing.

Most drugs are a double-edged sword in regards to anxiety in that in the short-term they can be amazing but in the long-run they usually end up making you even more anxious. It's more important to learn strategies to deal with anxiety that merely trying to smother it. BUT having said that your anxiety seems so extreme that if I was personally in that situation I would look at chemical options that could at least help to get me back on my feet. I don't think I can mention some of them as they would be against TDS ethos, but 5-HTP works well as a mild anxiolytic.

i think that is a pretty fair response. thank you.
 
btw if it wasn't obvs from what i've said, i quit that job. that last time i went in my whole body was shaking for hours afterward, and yes even while i was at home.

i contacted a disability lawyer and know the first steps now.

i will try to do quieter jobs but the last time i did that, i had to self medicate to stay there. a lot.

so i'd rather get help from a doctor. then rack up even more time self medicating and giving "evidence" that i am just a pill seeker. IE i'd prefer YOUR HELP than BEING A DRUGGIE. even if it means fucking being a doctor-approved druggie on their own shit. i do not want to have to play doctor to myself anymore and have to explain it was because i had to, and not for funsies.
 
Yes I suffered from extreme derealization which led to a pyhcosis. I hate that feeling when you look in the mirror and ask who are you it sucks but honestly abilify has helped with depersonalization and derealization so much I don't suffer from them much anymore but my social anxiety is still being worked on. Of course I still suffer from an occasional panic attack and dissociation, but abilify has helped with dp nd dr and with the delusions associated with anxiety (people are watching you all the time, or for me my friends were stalking me at my house and watching me and my life 24/7 so they could make fun of me when I see them) of course this isn't true because they are my friends and look out for me a bit with a little bit of clowning but abilify has helped me get over it
 
Social anxiety has been one thing that I just can't seem to shake no matter what. I'll have my moments where I do surprise myself and do things that I'd normally never have done, but still the majority of the time I'm super quiet and try not to attract attention to myself. My therapist has suggested a social anxiety group therapy for me (I know I laughed at the idea at first too) and I'd like to do it, but it just hasn't been something that has worked with my schedule. Now i do try to concentrate on the moments that I surprise myself and realize that this does happen more often now. I don't think I'll ever truly feel comfortable in social settings, but I'm starting to be able to manage better which I think says a lot and I am very thankful for that progress.
 
Spork as long as u can function- not being super social shouldn't be something to worry about. Some of us are wallflowers while others are attention seekers.
I'm the same way- sometimes I surprise myself and m pretty social. But usually I tend to block everyone one out and prefer not to make phony small talk.
 
I'm angry right now because my ADHD is ruining my life and my Psych won't RX anything I'm the Aderral family. We tried Wellbutrin. Didn't work. Now we are going to try Stratera. I know for a fact that concerta would work because I tried it (friend gave me some) but I can't tell her that. So for now I'm her experiment. My life is all she has to lose.
 
Over time I learned that I really couldn't manipulate the fear at all (except right at the end of recovery - more on that later). But there were other facets to this so I tried to make some impact on something, anything.

There was a visual aspect and an audio one. Nothing coherent, no patterns or organization of any kind. Just a kind of environmental cacophony. No presence either, there wasn't anyone/anything with me, to ask what was going on. All of those things, I learned I could change to my benefit.

The first thing I did that worked was to try to put a layer of order on top of my experience. I tried a imagine a static, calm scene. However, a peaceful meadow wasn't going to happen while I was living a hyper-flood.

After trying different things I found I could fly. (While a child I figured out Lucid Dreaming and the beginnings of Astral Travel. Most of my effort was spent trying to fly in my dreams. I haven't a clue if AT is real, but my experiences matched what I later learned about it.)

But flying in crap-land sucked so the first thing that worked was to manufacture clouds. They have Formlessness, which adapts easily to Chaos. If I'm flying, I have an ahead-to-behind motion going on. In short I have some order. That's what this is about. Creating the order that eventually leads to control.

Omg, someone else who can astral like me, a rare find so far in my lifetime.
 
A need to vent :(

I got a party I have to go too in two weeks. For two weeks I've been fretting it. I haven't left my home in 7 months except to get my medications. My social anxieties are pretty fierce. I hate phones. I hate answering them. I hate them ringing. I can't have a clock in my room. I wont answer the door most of the time. I sit in my own little world, up on this hill and I'm happy here. It's when I have to interact with the real world I have a REAL problem. I'm with therapists and doctors who are interns so they could really care less I feel in the proper treatment of me. I have a high tolerance to drugs and I don't know why and what they give me is not helping me. I am fretting over and over about going to see FRIENDS man. How I'll look. How I'll act. How it will go. It plays over and over in my mind.
I have Schitzoafective disorder, GAD, PTSD, Social Anxiety and some OCD tendencies.... I need some people to talk to man. I don't know what to do some days. The feelings that run all though my body. The panic. The stress. The everything. I just don't know anymore. I have an appointment this Tuesday because the klonopin isn't working and I told them something is going to have to be done or I'm checking myself into the hospital so I can actually get treated. Let them see me for a few weeks at my worst. But then I get told that my daughter would be taken from me for going into the hospital. Her grandmother, grandfather, uncle and my fiance are here to help me with her. I don't understand why they would do that!

Someone, anyone out there go through all this and more?
 
^You're not alone and you've come to the right place. <3

Does anyone have experience with beta blockers for anxiety? My doctor decided to put me on a low dose of propranolol to see if it will help. I didn't want to go the SSRI/SNRI route again because I didn't like the side effects and was wondering if beta blockers have been the answer for anyone else.
 
^I have never had experience with beta blockers myself but there is some fascinating stuff said about taking them for PTSD....A while back (in TDS) I made a thread about both beta blockers and ZIP as a possible future solution (which I personally do not agree with(ZIP)) for PTSD.
How they go hand in hand is easily seen....I will try to find the thread for you Spork...if anything, the articles linked are interesting. (Even if the thread is scattered thoughts ;))

A good friend of mine has PTSD and panic disorder and takes propranolol and doesn't see much result from it but she is also on other medications, so it is hard to say. Also, her anxiety stems from another mental illness.
Do you have GAD?
I'll be very interested in hearing how you find it works for you <3




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Thanks for that, ocean! :) I do have GAD and also social anxiety and suffer from panic attacks occasionally, but do not have panic disorder. I've been more depressed lately and it seems to me that the depression stems more from anxiety than the anxiety stems from the depression. I also have BPD so that could very well just be at the root of everything else.

There are a lot of memories that I have that I do think help to contribute to my anxieties, but like you I wouldn't want to erase them because they've shaped me into who I am today and no matter how horrible, I've learned from them.

So far the propranolol seems to be working at least somewhat. This could very well be the placebo effect though too (I actually wouldn't be surprised if it is). It doesn't have to build up in my system like an SSRI does, which is nice. It's really hard to say though because I've been on spring break pretty much since I got this new prescription so things in my life have been less stressful than usual. Next week I'll be in full swing with both work and school again though so I might have a better idea then. I'm really *really* hopeful that this is something that will help me. I'll try to update in the next week or two to let you know how it's working when I'm back to my regular schedule. <3
 
i have a very extreme case of panic disorder before i was prescribed xanax i would have anywhere from 2 to 5 panic attacks a day lasting anywhere from 30min to 3 hours a piece xanax eliminates them but i quickly built a tolerance to it and now 240mg lasts me less than 10 days so i deal with the panic attacks for 2/3rds of the month
 
^Have you spoken with your Dr. about possibly switching medications or other options for you?
Are you in therapy as well as seeing someone for you prescriptions?




B/c this thread has gotten real long, I want to just re-post a part of the first post with links that may help.

Anxiety disorder is a blanket term covering several different forms of abnormal and pathological fear and anxiety which only came under the aegis of psychiatry at the very end of the 19th century.[1] Current psychiatric diagnostic criteria recognize a wide variety of anxiety disorders. Recent surveys have found that as many as 18% of Americans may be affected by one or more of them.[2]

- Source

Anxiety is a psychological and physiological state characterized by cognitive, somatic, emotional, and behavioral components.[2] These components combine to create an unpleasant feeling that is typically associated with uneasiness, fear, or worry.
Anxiety is a generalized mood condition that occurs without an identifiable triggering stimulus. As such, it is distinguished from fear, which occurs in the presence of an observed threat. Additionally, fear is related to the specific behaviors of escape and avoidance, whereas anxiety is the result of threats that are perceived to be uncontrollable or unavoidable.[3]
Another view is that anxiety is "a future-oriented mood state in which one is ready or prepared to attempt to cope with upcoming negative events"[4] suggesting that it is a distinction between future vs. present dangers that divides anxiety and fear.
Anxiety is considered to be a normal reaction to stress. It may help a person to deal with a difficult situation, for example at work or at school, by prompting one to cope with it. When anxiety becomes excessive, it may fall under the classification of an anxiety disorder.[5]

Physical effects of anxiety may include heart palpitations, fatigue, nausea, chest pain, shortness of breath, stomach aches, or headaches. Physically, the body prepares the organism to deal with a threat. Blood pressure and heart rate are increased, sweating is increased, bloodflow to the major muscle groups is increased, and immune and digestive system functions are inhibited (the fight or flight response). External signs of anxiety may include pale skin, sweating, trembling, and pupillary dilation. Someone suffering from anxiety might also experience it as a sense of dread or panic. Although panic attacks are not experienced by every anxiety sufferer, they are a common symptom. Panic attacks usually come without warning, and although the fear is generally irrational, the perception of danger is very real. A person experiencing a panic attack will often feel as if he or she is about to die or pass out. Panic attacks may be confused with heart attacks therefore only a doctor can be the only right person to differentiate between panic attack or the heart attack.
Anxiety does not only consist of physical effects, there are many emotional ones as well. They include "feelings of apprehension or dread, trouble concentrating, feeling tense or jumpy, anticipating the worst, irritability, restlessness, watching (and waiting) for signs (and occurrences) or danger, and, feeling like your mind's gone blank"[6] as well as "nightmares/bad dreams, obsessions about sensations, deja vu, a trapped in your mind feeling, and feeling like everything is scary."[7]
Cognitive effects of anxiety may include thoughts about suspected dangers, such as fear of dying. "You may...fear that the chest pains [a physical symptom of anxiety] are a deadly heart attack or that the shooting pains in your head [another physical symptom of anxiety] are the result of a tumor or aneurysm. You feel an intense fear when you think of dying, or you may think of it more often than normal, or can’t get it out of your mind."
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The National Institute of Mental Health
gives descriptions 5 types of anxiety disorders-


• Generalized Anxiety Disorder

• Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)


• Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)


• Social Phobia (or Social Anxiety Disorder)





Other links that give alot of information on anxiety related mental illness:

Psych Central

Web MD

E Medicine Health

Anxiety Disorders Association of America

Wikipedia- Anxiety Disroders

Anxiety Center

Anxiety FAQ

National Mental Health Information Center from the US Department of Health and Human Services

General Anxiety Disorder-


Generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) is a pattern of frequent, constant worry and anxiety over many different activities and events.
Google Health- GAD

Mayo Clinic- GAD

Psych Central -GAD

Wikipedia- GAD

About.com on GAD
(I liked this site alot)


Post Traumatic Stress Disorder-

"PTSD is a medical diagnosis, established in 1980, defining symptoms that last at least a month after experiencing a major trauma. These symptoms include remembering or reliving the trauma when you do not choose to; feeling numb and withdrawn; and, having forms of anxiety that interfere with daily life."
" - source

Mayo Clinic- PTSD

Posttraumatic Stress Disorder DSM-IV™ Diagnosis & Criteria

[url" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posttraumatic_stress_disorder"] Wikipedia- PTSD[/url]

National Institute of Mental Health

Help Guide for PTSD



Obsessive Compulsive Disorder-

"Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) can be a debilitating disorder with the following two anxiety-related essential features: obsessions (undesirable, recurrent, disturbing thoughts) and compulsions (repetitive or ritualized behaviors). "
-source

National Mental Health Association

Understanding OCD

Mayo Clinic on OCD

Epigee.org

Emedicine

anxietybc- on OCD- VERY good site

Treatment of OCD -

BMJ.com on OCD

Surgeon General- OCD



Panic Disorder-
"A panic attack, the core feature of panic disorder, is a period of intense fear or discomfort that strikes suddenly, often in familiar places, where there is seemingly nothing threatening an individual. But when the attack comes, it feels as if there is a real threat, and the body reacts accordingly. The discomfort and sense of danger the attack brings is so intense that people with panic disorder often believe they are having a heart attack or other life-threatening illness."
-American Psychiatric Association

psych central

Mayo Clinic

Google Health


National Alliance of Mental Illness



American Psychological Association on Panic Disorder

Anxietypanic.com

Pshychnet-uk on Panic Disorder and Agoraphobia

FamilyDoctor.com on Panic Disorder and Agoraphobia


Agoraphobia-

Mayo Clinic Agoraphobia
 
i have a fear of addiction to pills so i will not take the xanax my doctor prescribed. even when the walls are closing in and i am sinking, i am too terrified to take a pill.

i take prozac, but that doesn't have addiction qualities.

i don't find that xanax helps with obsessive-compulsive disorder, though. when i am stuck, my attacks are not physical. my mind is the one held captive and i can't imagine anything slowing down the process. also, because i have them so often, i would be taking xanax 5x/day at the very least. how that wouldn't turn to habit-forming is beyond me.

Hi pteque :)

I truly feel you regarding this post. I've cycled through 11 different benzodiazepines over the past 15 years and just hit my breaking point three days ago.

I've been on a self-improvement and health-boosting kick recently, and I woke up 3 days ago and decided to call my doctor because I am sick and tired of being a slave to the damned BZD's. I can't do it anymore. I deserve better, and so do you.

I requested a week's worth of Buspar, a surprisingly effective anxiolytic that lacks GABAergic activity, lacks sluggish energy and cognitive tempo side effects, and best of all is non-addictive - both psychologically and physiologically.

In 3 days I have lowered my dose of 40mg of diazepam to 30mg without experiencing any rebound anxiety (I am diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder).

This experience is mine and mine alone, so please do not construe this message as my advocating that you begin to take Buspar. Obviously, any medicine that you put into your body ought to be done under the supervision of a licensed professional possessing a thorough knowledge of your specific symptoms and health. But I did want to mention it, as I have had success in the past with it and its benefits have already begun to touch my life. It is a decision I wish I had made fifteen years ago.

While there's still time, however, I believe I'll jump right on in ;)

Take care,
~ Vaya
 
^It's interesting that you say that. Buspar didn't seem to work at all for me, but I was taking it along with Cymbalta and clonazepam at the time so that might have something to do with it. It just goes to really show what you said about "This experience is mine and mine alone". I've always found it fascinating how different medications affect people in (sometimes extreme) different ways.

As sort of an update I've had a tough month, so it's still hard to gauge but I do think the propranolol is working (at least somewhat) for me. I'm going to decrease my benzo intake and see how that goes. I've wanted to taper for a while, it's just a really hard jump for me to take.

Vaya, congrats on taking it on yourself to know that it's time to taper and take the initiative to do so. That's really incredibly inspiring. <3
 
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