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Anxiety before you drop

Definitely true! All the scaremongering they put you through in school seems to kick in about half hour before I drop. Then I start to freak out from then until I come up. The worst time it happened I was convinced I'd taken too much, even though I knew I hadn't, my friend had to literally shake me and tell me I was over reacting. This is why I always roll with people I know really well, and who I trust. Once I'm coming up, apart from feeling a bit sick, then I'm good.
 
well my anxiety makes its presence in my stomach
and when i drop i get that tension in my serotonin in my tummy
but all always ends well! especially with some benzos D:


i think anxieties like this, happen with all drugs you are nervous for such a change.
but once it comes everything be well!
 
Good Post! I too experience this anxiety, and it is getting worse right before i drop every time. I have only rolled maybe 25-30 times, but ironically I wasn't nervous the first time I tried, so that rules out any D.A.R.E. elementary school type scare tactics.

Anyways, usually a can of beer in the half hour before dropping works, or, if I have it available, I'll take .5 mg xanax. The xan doesn't really affect the quality of my roll, IMO. In addition, I take about 2 mg xan on the comedown, am able to sleep peacefully, and wake up the next morning feeling fantastic!! Also 5-HTP helps as well.
 
duanomatic said:
Good Post! I too experience this anxiety, and it is getting worse right before i drop every time. I have only rolled maybe 25-30 times, but ironically I wasn't nervous the first time I tried, so that rules out any D.A.R.E. elementary school type scare tactics.

Anyways, usually a can of beer in the half hour before dropping works, or, if I have it available, I'll take .5 mg xanax. The xan doesn't really affect the quality of my roll, IMO. In addition, I take about 2 mg xan on the comedown, am able to sleep peacefully, and wake up the next morning feeling fantastic!! Also 5-HTP helps as well.
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I'm pretty sensitive to xanax, so I think even .5mg would make me a bit drowsy. I'll be trying the hydrocodone and a little port wine a couple hours before next week (woo hoo!) so I'll see how that goes (surprisingly that doesn't make me drowsy, but sometimes even a bit energetic but with a very positive mood!)

Totally agree on the 2mg xanax afterward. That is the only way I've been able to get a sound sleep after rolling (even 10mg of Ambien doesn't work).
 
avcpl said:
I'm pretty sensitive to xanax, so I think even .5mg would make me a bit drowsy. I'll be trying the hydrocodone and a little port wine a couple hours before next week (woo hoo!) so I'll see how that goes (surprisingly that doesn't make me drowsy, but sometimes even a bit energetic but with a very positive mood!)

Totally agree on the 2mg xanax afterward. That is the only way I've been able to get a sound sleep after rolling (even 10mg of Ambien doesn't work).
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Yep. I hear you on the ambien. I tried 2 10 mg ambien one time, and it didn't work very well. Ended up being rather trippy, lol. The reason being ambien isn't a central nervous system depressant like xanax is. It is a sedative-hypnotic. So I guess it works on your brain's gaba receptors rather than shut down your whole body like xanax.
 
I just watched the program Drugs Inc. about crack and what was interesting was that they showed that when addicts were shown pictures or talked about crack use that their brains actually released dopamine.

Since MDMA triggers adrenaline, the closer we get to the roll it seems to be releasing it in anticipation. My heart has been racing lately and we don't roll until this Friday!

But what is really interesting is my wife said that she had the Christmas lights lit in the bedroom and they were really glowing! So it seems that in addition to the adrenalin she is also experiencing some serotonin release in anticipation!
 
coolzmoker said:
And you're not experiencing anxiety in daily life? That has also gotten worse?
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A bit of a late reply, but if this was in reference to me then no, not at all. That's why I find it so strange. This is isolated to the week or so before an event that I'll be taking MDMA at. If I had anxiety in daily life I'd probably be better at managing it, but I don't so it hits me pretty hard sometimes.

Once I get to the event though, which is normally hours before I dose, my anxiety disappears almost instantly. I never used to have any anxiety associated with taking MDMA, so as a lot of other posters have said, it has gotten a fair bit worse over time. Have always dosed within my limits, always kept minimum of three months break, and have had overall glowing experiences. It's odd that the anxiety has presented so strongly for no apparent reason.
 
duanomatic said:
Good Post! I too experience this anxiety, and it is getting worse right before i drop every time. I have only rolled maybe 25-30 times, but ironically I wasn't nervous the first time I tried, so that rules out any D.A.R.E. elementary school type scare tactics.

Anyways, usually a can of beer in the half hour before dropping works, or, if I have it available, I'll take .5 mg xanax. The xan doesn't really affect the quality of my roll, IMO. In addition, I take about 2 mg xan on the comedown, am able to sleep peacefully, and wake up the next morning feeling fantastic!! Also 5-HTP helps as well.
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Same here it seems like my anxiety gets worse every time. When i started rolling I never really had it but now it's pretty bad. I rolled 2 Fridays ago and 2 to 3 hours before the rave I was doing the same thing pacing back and forth. Told my buddies lets go for a cruise until the rave. Drove around bumpin some tunes for two hours and it really got my mind off it, had a good roll too.
 
weird thing is when i first started rolling i had no anxiety and then after a few years break and anxiety issues with weed it was fucking hard to drop ex. I would really have to work up the courage to do it. Xanax always overcomes the anxiety if i can find it though.
 
This thread makes me feel like I'm not alone. I rolled regularly for nearly 10 years, but pre-roll anxiety became so bad that it became one of the major factors for me not using E for nearly the past two years. Around the 10th time nearly a decade ago, I got a hold of some E from a friend who smiled when he gave it to me and said that his friends said 1 pill would send a guy "higher than the moon". I took the capsule and within 15 minutes was feeling the first alerts and then skyrocketed to the peak so quickly that I went into a total panic and thought I was going crazy. My friends seat belted me into the car and off we went to the club. The panic only lasted a couple of minutes before I was so high that my vision was moving in "freeze frame" action and I would open my mouth to say something and would blurt out long strings of random words without even realizing it. What I most remember from that night as they led me into the club was that I never knew just how amazing runners felt as you walked in them......

.....anyway it was never the same after that. I would take E and there was a slight apprehension that slowly built each time until over the years it became a full blown panic where the day I knew I would be taking E I was a total wreck. It finally climaxed at the point where as soon as I swallowed the pill and long before it even took effect I was overwhelmed by such anxiety that I would end up in the only solace I knew - curled up fetal in a hot shower wishing I could die until the E kicked enough to end the anxiety. I ended up having to take high doses of E just to kill the anxiety and as a result I lost the magic of the mental high and it became a speedy body high.

Recently I have become interested in overcoming the anxiety so I can enjoy E again, so a counsellor and I are talking about something that I hope will work for me. The details aren't concrete yet, but we are going to try the cognitive behavioural therapy technique of graduated exposure where I lose my anxiety with E by first becoming anxiety free being around it and then slowly working up just to the point of just before I would ingest it. We are still working out the details of how we want to work through working through actually taking the E, but we are tossing around ideas of either having the E present and then taking a placebo or else using a dosage that is below the psychoactive threshold so I can work through the anxiety that arises after ingesting the E.

Anxiety is so irrational. I intellectually know after so many years of using E that it's harmless in and of itself, but somehow my brain is still having a disproportionate reaction. I am certainly hoping that this therapy I'm doing will work out well for me so that I can enjoy E again.
 
@vancbc: If you don't mind me asking, what do you think about when you're having these anxiety attacks? do you later think back on these things and wonder why you were anxious about them, or are they legitimate concerns?
 
@5000m: I am no stranger to anxiety as I have a naturally more anxious, reserved and introverted personality; but what is interesting is that this type of anxiety does not come with anxious thoughts or conscious fears. It is almost entirely physical in nature and consists of a debilitating and nearly overwhelming sensation of stimulation in my gut that demands my entire attention. Because it is present before I take E and begins to ramp up as soon as I swallow the pill, the initial anxiety cannot be due to subtle pharmacological effects of E before the drug takes effect.
 
duanomatic said:
Yep. I hear you on the ambien. I tried 2 10 mg ambien one time, and it didn't work very well. Ended up being rather trippy, lol. The reason being ambien isn't a central nervous system depressant like xanax is. It is a sedative-hypnotic. So I guess it works on your brain's gaba receptors rather than shut down your whole body like xanax.
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But where Ambien does help, is the night before the roll. I sometimes have a hard time sleeping before the roll from all this anxiety and a few times ago didn't sleep at all. Not a good situation being up over 24 hours and then taking MDMA--makes recovery that much harder!
 
Get drunk first :D. You'll be fine. Ive seen people barf from the anxiety (ie: toss in mouth, couple minutes later barf).

The anxiety goes away once you start rolling, I wouldnt take any benzos (that are going to last for hours).
 
My husband was a raver back in the 90's, even if we have nothing to take he goes into full on sweats, yawns, and upset stomach when we start getting near a festival. Serious shakes and nerves. I think it's more anticipation, if he let all of those physical symptoms get to him I'm sure he'd be having anxiety attacks, so maybe just try talking yourself through your symptoms (and prepare for the fun).
 
I believe benzos should be part of a roller's essentials every time they go anywhere. The self-assurance of knowing that one has a safety net in case things go bad really takes one's mind off of things.

You can also carry GHB as long as you're experienced with using it. Dosing GHB at the peak of a roll gave me the best roll of my life.
 
Agreed with the above, 5htp and a couple of pints or whatever alcoholic beverage you fancy helps nerves, and doesn't make the comeup as intense
 
I wouldn't take 5-htp or drink alcohol before you roll.

There definitely are healthier GABA-ergics
 
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