Scrofula
Bluelight Crew
Jess, I saw your post in my email.
Understand that I'm not throwing any stones, much less the first ones. I'm not defining where that line is. But I'm saying, of course there's a line, and you can't tell me you wouldn't use violence to defend yourself or family if the time came.
Some posters see that future arriving sooner than others, is all.
So it's getting all mixed up about where we're saying it's time to go to arms. Surely you wouldn't call the French Resistance Nazis for using violence? That's the scenario, the serious scenario, that I'm talking about. It's a long way off, and I'm pretty sure will never come to be. So most of this is all rhetorical. But it gets "liberals" to talk about getting violent, so that we can be set up for a "hypocrite" shut down later.
ETA: OK, and you gotta define force and direct action. Nobody's bombing anybody. And the insidious propaganda machine we have now is not on the order of illegal interference, much less "force". Direct action does not require violence at all.
But you know your history. You can't tell me that propaganda doesn't play a huge role in these things, the very center, actually. I can think of several times in history when you'd have been ready to use actual shooty boom force against it.
Understand that I'm not throwing any stones, much less the first ones. I'm not defining where that line is. But I'm saying, of course there's a line, and you can't tell me you wouldn't use violence to defend yourself or family if the time came.
Some posters see that future arriving sooner than others, is all.
So it's getting all mixed up about where we're saying it's time to go to arms. Surely you wouldn't call the French Resistance Nazis for using violence? That's the scenario, the serious scenario, that I'm talking about. It's a long way off, and I'm pretty sure will never come to be. So most of this is all rhetorical. But it gets "liberals" to talk about getting violent, so that we can be set up for a "hypocrite" shut down later.
ETA: OK, and you gotta define force and direct action. Nobody's bombing anybody. And the insidious propaganda machine we have now is not on the order of illegal interference, much less "force". Direct action does not require violence at all.
But you know your history. You can't tell me that propaganda doesn't play a huge role in these things, the very center, actually. I can think of several times in history when you'd have been ready to use actual shooty boom force against it.