Another Newbie Post..!

CFC said:
You'll recover fine. LH and FSH should come back naturally within days of the end of the cycle, which is the purpose of SERM use anyway.

I would run the adex 0.25mg EOD throughout, and you could extend that for 3 weeks after, which may speed your recovery slightly.

Lowering oestrogen on cycle is generally a good idea since it's excessive oestrogen that seems to be most harmful to the testes - and thus makes recovery harder. Also take 5g of Taurine everyday (split dose), which should further help protect the testes.
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Would you still recommend having a box of Clomid/Nolva on hand even if not using, just in case? Thank you.
 
Here is a study that compares the results of different doses of testosterone.
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.full

As I interpret this, taper up would be a waste. Better to just run a cycle of 500 or 600 mg weekly. The slow release of Test E or C is enough of a built in taper up.

Fat Free Mass by underwater weighing
300 mg group-5.2kg (11.4lbs) increase
600 mg group-7.9kg (17.38lbs) increase
Fat Mass by underwater weighing
300 mg group-.5kg (1.1lbs) decrease
600 mg group-1.1kg (2.42lbs) decrease
Thigh Muscle Volume
300 mg group-84 cubic centimeter increase
600 mg group-126 cubic centimeter increase
Quadriceps Muscle Volume
300 mg group-43 cubic centimeter increase
600 mg group-68 cubic centimeter increase
Leg Press Strength
300 mg group-72.2kg (158.8lbs) increase
600 mg group-76.5kg (168.3lbs) increase
Leg Power
300 mg group-38.6 watt increase
600 mg group-48.1 watt increase
Hemoglobin
300 mg group-6.1 gram per liter increase
600 mg group-14.2 gram per liter increase
Plasma HDL Cholesterol
300 mg group-5.7 mg/dl decrease
600 mg group-8.4 mg/dl decrease
Acne
300 mg group-7 of the 12 men developed acne
600 mg group-2 of the 13 men developed acne
 
Ah, the Bhasin et al. study where they don't exercise. I don't agree at all. Why stop at 500mg or 600mg? What about 800mg? Or 1200mg? Or 2000mg? Wouldn't they produce better results, since the response is apparently linear?

And will they maintain the mass when they come off the cycle? Maybe 8 weeks later? And will these superior gains from higher doses accumulate from cycle to cycle, thus meaning we'll all hit 400lbs now we know there's a linear response curve in non-exercising subjects?
 
CFC said:
Yes, get some nolva just in case you get gyno and the anastrazole isn't enough.
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So, I got the Test, Anastrozole, and some Tamoxifen. I am planning on pinning on mondays, 250 mg Test and taking 0.25 Anastrozole EOD. Does it look ok? From what I understand the sides will be minimal, right?
Thanks a lot.
 
Greg Velo said:
So, I got the Test, Anastrozole, and some Tamoxifen. I am planning on pinning on mondays, 250 mg Test and taking 0.25 Anastrozole EOD. Does it look ok? From what I understand the sides will be minimal, right?
Thanks a lot.
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You might find its better to split the dose 125mg monday, and thursday, as some people find the higher plasma spike from a single injection can lead to an increase in aromatisation and/or DHT conversion...
 
Genetic Freak said:
You might find its better to split the dose 125mg monday, and thursday, as some people find the higher plasma spike from a single injection can lead to an increase in aromatisation and/or DHT conversion...
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Oh, I see. I thought that splitting such a low dose would't matter. Thanks for the tip.
I have Test 300 mg/ml , so to get 125 mg I will have to suck up .41 ml , can I be that precise with the syringe? Sorry for the stupid question ?
 
Greg Velo said:
Oh, I see. I thought that splitting such a low dose would't matter. Thanks for the tip.
I have Test 300 mg/ml , so to get 125 mg I will have to suck up .41 ml , can I be that precise with the syringe? Sorry for the stupid question ��
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If you use a 1ml syringe you can be fairly accurate, it's more likely your test might not be exactly 300mg/ml...
 
Genetic Freak said:
If you use a 1ml syringe you can be fairly accurate, it's more likely your test might not be exactly 300mg/ml...
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I actually have 2.5 ml syringes unfortunately. I couldn't get the 1mls. So I should't care too much as long as I'm gonna try to be the most accurate possible? Thanks a lot for helping me out.
 
Genetic Freak said:
If you use a 1ml syringe you can be fairly accurate, it's more likely your test might not be exactly 300mg/ml...
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Greg Velo said:
I actually have 2.5 ml syringes unfortunately. I couldn't get the 1mls. So I should't care too much as long as I'm gonna try to be the most accurate possible? Thanks a lot for helping me out.
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also, would you recommend running the cycle for 10 or 12 weeks at that dosage? Would you bump up the dose slightly in the final weeks if I seem to respond well? Thank you and sorry for all these questions. I keep reading and I keep having questions. :)
 
Greg Velo said:

also, would you recommend running the cycle for 10 or 12 weeks at that dosage? Would you bump up the dose slightly in the final weeks if I seem to respond well? Thank you and sorry for all these questions. I keep reading and I keep having questions. :)
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Its entirely up to you and how you feel towards end of cycle... I'd be inclined to keep the dose to 250mg..
 
Genetic Freak said:
Its entirely up to you and how you feel towards end of cycle... I'd be inclined to keep the dose to 250mg..
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Hi Genetic Freak. I didn't pin yet, even if I have everything I need since last month. ?

I have to admit that I'm a little scared!
I think I'm ginna pin in January. ?
 
Greg Velo said:
Hi Genetic Freak. I didn't pin yet, even if I have everything I need since last month. ��

I have to admit that I'm a little scared!
I think I'm gonna pin in January. ��
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No dramas, do it when you feel comfortable..
 
You're risking your health by using androgenic anabolic steroids at all. Why not just learn to love, or at least accept, your body as it is? A lot of AAS using bodybuilders end up looking like ugly freaks.
 
Dresden said:
You're risking your health by using androgenic anabolic steroids at all. Why not just learn to love, or at least accept, your body as it is? A lot of AAS using bodybuilders end up looking like ugly freaks.
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What if you're an ugly freak to start with.... :)
 
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