ocean
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This member has a "psychotic disorder" and has had mixed reactions to medications- Any suggestions you have would be much appreciated.
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This member has a "psychotic disorder" and has had mixed reactions to medications- Any suggestions you have would be much appreciated.
panic in paradise
Bluelighter
i can go through intense agoraphobia, and have adverse reactions to antipsychorics.
the reaction i would have on the antipsychotics was not agoraphobia, they just wouldnt treat it, or the mixed states, and all 3 had fairly quick on-sets with their disturbances in me.
finding some one you trust, telling them all, and trusting them further to speak when needed to a doctor is best; for myself Lithium was/is a miracle, klonopin is awesome at fighting these symptoms, and more when it comes to agoraphobia, then once things start making more sense,,, and maybe with a therapist with you, practice reexposure to areas, and events that preceded this current on-set.
it took me many months, but the last few were manageable, but when i stayed on the klonopin more immanent trouble began.
if you do go to a Dr, and are started on klonopin/benzo's;
try and start weaning from the stuff as you begin any exposure therapy.
the reaction i would have on the antipsychotics was not agoraphobia, they just wouldnt treat it, or the mixed states, and all 3 had fairly quick on-sets with their disturbances in me.
finding some one you trust, telling them all, and trusting them further to speak when needed to a doctor is best; for myself Lithium was/is a miracle, klonopin is awesome at fighting these symptoms, and more when it comes to agoraphobia, then once things start making more sense,,, and maybe with a therapist with you, practice reexposure to areas, and events that preceded this current on-set.
it took me many months, but the last few were manageable, but when i stayed on the klonopin more immanent trouble began.
if you do go to a Dr, and are started on klonopin/benzo's;
try and start weaning from the stuff as you begin any exposure therapy.
In my personal opinion i think going off anti-psytchotics would be a awful idea. If they are helping at all that is better then nothing. I get some of the feelings you describe at times (im bipolar NOS with psychotic features) but not to the extent you describe and anti-psychotics do help. If the anti-psychotic your on now isint working i would suggest going back to your doctor and telling he/she what is going on. Noone here is a doctor so we can only give opinions.
But i do think going off anti-psychotics would be the worst idea possible. I know from person experience that symptoms can return with interest going off them plus there are withdrawal symptoms coming off them as well.
But i do think going off anti-psychotics would be the worst idea possible. I know from person experience that symptoms can return with interest going off them plus there are withdrawal symptoms coming off them as well.
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Try different medications; it sounds like other ones could work better for you.
Are you recovering from stimulant abuse? Are you using any stimulants, even nicotine or caffeine?
Are you recovering from stimulant abuse? Are you using any stimulants, even nicotine or caffeine?
ocean
Bluelight Crew
ANON response:
panic in paradise
Bluelighter
thats a lot to coil with, you shouldnt be expected to do this with out help in some form.
dont try and fight this, be persistent and aware, chip away at it. you are going to ware yourself out dueling with psychosis; the fall of many great minds.
i dont believe such agoraphobia lasts more then several months in most case, but can come and go.
ive felt myself slipping there again lately, but have been forcing myself to allow -some- people in my home when it feels scary, and i dont want to, i let them "invade".
when the sensation has started coming on, ive been forcing myself to go check the mail, when i know there is none haha, long driveway, last house, so i have to walk past allll the neighbors, well two other houses heh.
or calling anyone when it hits hard, even a suicide line, just to communicate with another person, to hear yourself speak and rationalize out loud can be confirming and comforting.
these are just some examples of what i do, or have been doing when the feeling comes. it helps it pass, i dont know where it goes, or if its coming back, but it helps.
i just feel for you, and felt i should add that before the thread sinks away.
dont try and fight this, be persistent and aware, chip away at it. you are going to ware yourself out dueling with psychosis; the fall of many great minds.
i dont believe such agoraphobia lasts more then several months in most case, but can come and go.
ive felt myself slipping there again lately, but have been forcing myself to allow -some- people in my home when it feels scary, and i dont want to, i let them "invade".
when the sensation has started coming on, ive been forcing myself to go check the mail, when i know there is none haha, long driveway, last house, so i have to walk past allll the neighbors, well two other houses heh.
or calling anyone when it hits hard, even a suicide line, just to communicate with another person, to hear yourself speak and rationalize out loud can be confirming and comforting.
these are just some examples of what i do, or have been doing when the feeling comes. it helps it pass, i dont know where it goes, or if its coming back, but it helps.
i just feel for you, and felt i should add that before the thread sinks away.
rollingstoned!
Bluelighter
"I think people are talking about me/conspiring against me/Hiding from me and avoiding talking to me at all costs." - so. what if they are? The truth will set you free, because if they are conspiring against you, you have the truth to back you up. They can know everything about you, but it doesn't matter, because you know too. Let that paranoia die away using truth.
ocean
Bluelight Crew
ANON response:
panic in paradise
Bluelighter
yeah, its an overwhelming feeling.
i was to the point, that i would feel the people looking at me, being startled by me, judging, disgusted, all this assumption from cars passing at 50-65mph... i knew it wasnt right, i knew it, but the feeling was all encompassing. i would eventually just break-down into tears, with fear, the knowledge it was in-fact irrational, and then, now im in the car crying! and i can see people passing so they can surely see me..! and look at me im a mess! lol
oh god man.
im able now though, after a looong battle of many, to see and say to you what i have, and learned in hindsight, which will come to you too.
i would so so go to your doctor, and ask them about klonopin, for some reason, it works very very well for this exact situation.they may not agree that it would be best for you, for any number of reasons which could be valid, but, you dont deserve or need to sit in this... you must try, you must trust some~one, you can, you have for almost all of your life.
you may be sitting there, just jousting with yourself, pulling your hair in frustration, knowing whats happening, but having this immanent sense of danger, an extra super heightened sense of dreadful premonition - and this, the problem is whats keeping you from seeking the cure...
accept that, and go ask for help,,, i was fucking delirious when i went in to the er,,, the doctors where cool as hell, i was given benzos, then hey!.. i need a cigarette! and i walked out to do so, making eye contact smiling actually, not high, but reestablished.
they made advisement's, recommendations, gave some #'s they trusted to call, and i did.
there was never any fear of the police, or mental hospitals after being there for a few, and man, i just can not imagine if i didnt go in that afternoon, spell-binding it is...
and still, im not sure how long went by after that, but it did.
this is most always not a chronic issue, it will pass, start to disassemble its self slowly. you may need a bit to catch your breath afterwards, but will be tapping your toes again...
i was to the point, that i would feel the people looking at me, being startled by me, judging, disgusted, all this assumption from cars passing at 50-65mph... i knew it wasnt right, i knew it, but the feeling was all encompassing. i would eventually just break-down into tears, with fear, the knowledge it was in-fact irrational, and then, now im in the car crying! and i can see people passing so they can surely see me..! and look at me im a mess! lol
oh god man.
im able now though, after a looong battle of many, to see and say to you what i have, and learned in hindsight, which will come to you too.
i would so so go to your doctor, and ask them about klonopin, for some reason, it works very very well for this exact situation.they may not agree that it would be best for you, for any number of reasons which could be valid, but, you dont deserve or need to sit in this... you must try, you must trust some~one, you can, you have for almost all of your life.
you may be sitting there, just jousting with yourself, pulling your hair in frustration, knowing whats happening, but having this immanent sense of danger, an extra super heightened sense of dreadful premonition - and this, the problem is whats keeping you from seeking the cure...
accept that, and go ask for help,,, i was fucking delirious when i went in to the er,,, the doctors where cool as hell, i was given benzos, then hey!.. i need a cigarette! and i walked out to do so, making eye contact smiling actually, not high, but reestablished.
they made advisement's, recommendations, gave some #'s they trusted to call, and i did.
there was never any fear of the police, or mental hospitals after being there for a few, and man, i just can not imagine if i didnt go in that afternoon, spell-binding it is...
and still, im not sure how long went by after that, but it did.
this is most always not a chronic issue, it will pass, start to disassemble its self slowly. you may need a bit to catch your breath afterwards, but will be tapping your toes again...
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Have you talked to other people before who have had issues with paranoia? Some of them may be able to shed some light on ways you can combat these thoughts from pervading your mind.
TINK
Bluelighter
Let me take a shot in the dark... are you an over achiever/a perfectionist? Type A personality?
It took me years to be comfortable in my own skin. I was constantly worried about how I was being viewed/judged by others. My father was overly critical of every thing I did and accepted nothing less than perfection. This carried over into my adult life and eventually rendered my completely helpless. It took several years but, I can say without a shadow of a doubt, I can look someone in the face and ask if they have a problem with me. I can walk into a crowded room, head held high and introduce myself around the room.
One of my biggest fears was making mistakes, even if they were the tiniest ones. I once met a great guy who had a doughter dying of cancer,and he gave me this advice (over 20 yrs ago and I still live by it) "if you make a mistake and no one is going to remember it in 100 years then let it go and get over it". I also have another mantra that has helped a lot. I used to be like I have to be better than everyone, I am not average, which caused my ocd/add/anxiety/depression take over my life. But, now when I do something I know it doesn't have to be perfect, just GOOD ENUF! That has changed me in ways I can not begin to explain.
GOOD LUCK!
It took me years to be comfortable in my own skin. I was constantly worried about how I was being viewed/judged by others. My father was overly critical of every thing I did and accepted nothing less than perfection. This carried over into my adult life and eventually rendered my completely helpless. It took several years but, I can say without a shadow of a doubt, I can look someone in the face and ask if they have a problem with me. I can walk into a crowded room, head held high and introduce myself around the room.
One of my biggest fears was making mistakes, even if they were the tiniest ones. I once met a great guy who had a doughter dying of cancer,and he gave me this advice (over 20 yrs ago and I still live by it) "if you make a mistake and no one is going to remember it in 100 years then let it go and get over it". I also have another mantra that has helped a lot. I used to be like I have to be better than everyone, I am not average, which caused my ocd/add/anxiety/depression take over my life. But, now when I do something I know it doesn't have to be perfect, just GOOD ENUF! That has changed me in ways I can not begin to explain.
GOOD LUCK!