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AMT, 2C-B, 4-AcO-DMT - Very Experienced - Everything.

Xorkoth

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7:30pm - Ingest the rest of my AMT, about 40mg, converted to HCl salt and dissolved in water, rectally. A weak form of the blessed euphoria it causes develops, and the love and euphoria I've been feeling for the past 3 months increases dramatically. I have been using way too many psychedelics lately.

1:15am - Ingest 16mg of 2C-B HCl rectally.

2:05 - Ingest 18mg 4-AcO-DMT orally.

2:13 - Alerts. This one is oh-so-fast.

2:32 - With some hesitation, I decide to take 20mg more, also orally.

2:34 - I feel the extra dose kicking in already. Fortunately, psilocybin's acetoxy ester is an astounding gentle and pleasant chemical.

2:35 - More music enhancement already than all the previous drugs have done.

2:37 - It has started to be more difficult to focus long enough to read, and it's getting slightly harder to type. So DMT-like! Not much in the way of CEVs (yet, or as I suspect, at all). This one seems to shine with the eyes open. I notice a "jewelling" of the vision again.

2:39 - I notice it comes in distinct waves, and another just hit. I seem to be retaining the ability to type more this time, and also seem to have retained the will to communicate.

2:41 - Jeweling of words has begun.

2:43 - I keep wondering why it hasn't hit me with another wave yet... evidence of time dilation! I'm euphoric now, very much so but in a calm way. Mainly it's a buzzing full-body euphoria that feels almost exactly like n,n-DMT.

2:49 - Just switched the music to Ferry Corsten's "Tsunami One" disc 1. The drug (or combination anyway) makes it very desirable to have the same type of music playing as you would during MDMA. I can see colors and wavy shapes all around my vision, more and more as it strays from the center of my focus. It's generally grid-like, but doesn't give the impression of a grid. I seem to discovered a way to make the ultimate drug. AMT provides the amazing euphoria and 4-AcO-DMT provides the body high, visual enhancement and music euphoria. You can add things like 2C-B in to further flavor the experience but those are the main components.

2:54 - Turned up the music with the realization that I should focus more on the experience than with taking notes.

3:00 - With less hesitation this time, I dosed 16mg more. Simultaneously, a whole host of sirens go by, very close to my apartment. I start to think about all the things recently that seem to be acting as signs. A number of specific posts by Bluelight friends about me tripping too often. My engagement and our pressing need to save for a wedding, honeymoon, car, and house. The fact that I've been ludicrously happy and rock-solid in my spirituality for a good 3 months. The fact that I have a single dose left of an exceedingly rare and powerful psychedelic, and it's really my responsibility as a researcher of these compounds to try it when my mind is fresh. The fact that a Bluelight friend Church had recently begun a long break from psychedelics. I need to find out if I can be that way without the drugs. I've known this for quite some time.

So it appears that I should enjoy the experience at hand, for it will be my last for a good long while!

3:11 - I keep seeing my vision skip like it lagged a frame. I also have felt several times strong presences move very close to me and through the room, like last time. I'm also feeling a breeze hit my arms, and I'm feeling the vibrations of footsteps.

3:15 - I get a strong impression that all of these events are placed here purposely to construct the story of my life. Synchronicity. I feel like this trip will be a turning point in my life.

3:21 - I'm tapped in very strongly to the collective consciousness, in a unique and very utile way indeed. I feel as if I know everything but am still me, Xorkoth. I've never experienced this type of ego interaction, this much utility out of the state.

It's because I smoke weed on the come-up, which clouds my ability to remain fully conscious in the experience. This applies to everyone, not just me. I've just decided to talk as if I were the collective consciousness. I see myself as an incarnation of it to help the world, to provide the world information. I am always this, but at certain times I am able to do so more strongly and directly, like now. I have been feeling like this for some time, but now I can see it all in so much more clarity. I can see what I'm thinking of from any number of angles at once. I feel endless. I am about to start a new chapter in my life, and I can see clearly how everything previous has made me who I am. Everything makes sense. This is a "+4", a turning point. I have been typing stream-of-consciousness with a bit of conscious oversight, and I will continue to do so in an attempt to record all my thoughts, although I will most certainly fail as I can only write one line of thought at once. I am going to write this report by providing the unedited notes that I'm writing now first, then a sobver reflective piece afterwards. Note to trippers, 4-AcO-DMT seems to be highly capable of causing this type of experience, at high doses. Although this may be due to suggestion and selection from a closed group of trippers all in a similar spiritual place. But because of synchonicity, well, I guess it is 4-AcO-DMT after all. This one is very special indeed. I mean, my experience right this very moment is adding to all of life's experience of the chemical. I am making history right this moment because this report is adding to the collective opinion and experience of the chemical, and it resides in the subconsciousness of everyone forever. This is everyone's realization, not just my own. We are all one indeed. So it's like the chicken and the egg. Is it this drug, or the psychedelic experience? Is this drug the ultimate psychedelic, embodying all the societal archetypes, or is it just because of those very archetypes that this experience is happening, further reinforcing those archetypes? What is real? The dragon eating its tail. perfection, duality, dichotomy. Euphoria and fear are the same, two sides of the same coin. Love and hate. You can only hate someone you love or have loved. Otherwise you will feel at worst indifference or disfavor. Depression and happiness are the same energy moving through the body, only happiness radiates outward, or rather the energy radiates outward causing a sensation of release which feels good and produces the emotion we know as happiness. Depression is the same energy but malfunctioning, perverted to form a closed loop, a feedback loop, which produces a physical sensation that feels unpleasant, which produces the emotion we call depression. Happiness is undirected love. Euphoria is love with a direction which is pointing at all of creation. it radiates from the solar plexus, whereas happiness/depression center in the heart, and the stomach area as well, secondarily. The opposite of euphoria is anxiety. Or rather, the malfunctioning of that energy is anxiety, a closed loop at the solar plexus. We commonly call that sunsation "butterflies in the stomach". This is why depression and anxiety are so often related to one another, because the centers of energy are so close and the physical sensations can often lead to the other energy malfunctioning as well.

3:52 - I had a break in the stream of consciousness because I had to pee. While in there I thought of everything. Now I'm having trouble trying to record it all. I feel like I'm tapping into everyone else's mind for answers to whatever it is I'm thinking about. Will anyone have any questions to respond to this report with? Will reading this report provide enlightenment? Or am I delusional? I know the answer! Ha! One type of person will immediately scoff without really considering the ideas, not even really reading the entire report. Pretty much skipping around, getting a few key words. Their perception will be that I'm a nut. I've gone totally crazy. I'm a retarded-ass kid who calls himself a "psychonaut". I am that type of person for the time being. I hate the word psychonaut - it fills me with rage. It turns out I'm actually an extremely angry person. I have been perverted to hate the world, when our natural state is love, when love would literally solve all the world's problems, because it would cause us to all treat everything else with compassion and as we would want to be treated were the roles reversed. Then how would anything be wrong? To be wrong would upset the balance, and we would have no reason to do that. It would be insane to do that, totally illogical. We have more than enough resources to feed everyone on the planet if the rich would provide for the poor, who they would love, so they would of course feed them to insure they lived. Of course no one would hate, which would mean no wars, no religious hatred because spirituality is universal and they're all pointing at the same thing: love and we are all one. But of course this is the human joke. Human nature vs. perfection (another dichotomy). But what if I explain how to be perfect? Here it is; it's shockingly simple. As a person, all you can do is make sure you do nothing but output love into the universe. That will cause everything you encounter to give you love in return. This insures that you are happy, even euphoric, 100% of the time, without drugs. If you do this, everyone will be happy and the world will be perfect. Can one person cause this change in humanity, as a rippling in the pool of existence and life that grows, slowly at first and then with increasing speed to eventually become the new pool? Perhaps. I think so. I know so, if we will all agree to it. Is that the change in state of consciousness that seems to be coming? Is it 2012? It could be. What do you all think? Can we do it? I have faith in humanity... I think we can do it! Come on, join with me! Just abandon your hate! It's heavy and causes you deep, deep pain. You know it does. Stop denying it, stop lying to yourself. There is just absolutely no need for it. Whatever that person did to you, just drop it. It doesn't matter how much it hurt you. Stop allowing someone else, outside forces, to control your life. They have no power, none at all, unless you let them. Do not make their problem your problem. What happened to you is their problem, not yours even one bit. It is not your fault. It is not your fault. It is not your problem. You are free of them. Your past makes you who you are, but you have the ability to interpret that in any way that you choose. You have 100% control over your destiny. Bitter, jealous? Why? Why waste a single nanosecond of your precious life, that beautiful gift that you have which is yours and which no one can take away from you unless they kill you, and even then they cannot lower the quality of the life that you lived. Only you can do that, by lying to yourself. Think about it, really think about it. You know I'm right. There is no flaw in my case.

4:31 - I suddenly feel that I've communicated pretty much everything there is to say about this. I've communicated the gist of it. In case you couldn't tell, I decided to just post this as-is. I've mostly come down from the drug and am going to bed, as I have to work tomorrow. The mindstate remains entirely intact, but with much, much less force. I know that I will always be able to access the collective consciousness when I choose. I have some ideas, but I know it will take discipline and lots of practice.

This stream of consciousness put into the physical is my gift to you. It represents a total cleansing of myself, and it represents the same to all of you. A clean slate. A new state of consciousness. A new way of life, of everything. This is everyone's trip, all of our trip, your personal trip, an eternal trip, historical. This is important! Here, have my +4, my turning point, my spiritual revolution become your own. A new, happy life, forever, one with ourselves, each other, everything, infinity, the void, life, death, love, hate, good, bad, pleasure, and pain. Love yourself forever, and we will all live in love forever. I love you, and I want you to experience this with me.

I, Xorkoth, pledge to live my life this way, as best as I am able, forever, with all my heart.

Do you?

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Wow!. . . . . . Thats alot of drugs. . . . . . .

Seriously thats some very heavy tripping, you must really like to get twisted.

Very detailed and easy to read, nice style.
 
Xorkoth said:
As a person, all you can do is make sure you do nothing but output love into the universe. That will cause everything you encounter to give you love in return.

Glad you got there at last ;)

Xorkoth said:
I know that I will always be able to access the collective consciousness when I choose. I have some ideas, but I know it will take discipline and lots of practice.

Practice is the key - be mindful :|

Xorkoth said:

Oh yes!!! =D

Welcome to the gang ;) %)
 
Xorkoth said:
You know I'm right. There is no flaw in my case.

I dunno. I read this with much interest, yet I must tell you that I have had very similar experiences where I literally walked into my shadow and came out on the other side, totally tapping into collective consciousness, empathy for all and everything, seeing it all for what it is and that our natural state is love and that there is a solutionto ererything (Think "Imagine" by John Lennon). I suppose you are right, indeed I know you are right - but I also see a lot of negativity all around me, deep unhappiness and distrust and selfishness. And I see that in me, too. Now and then it flares up. And I just love those drugs, not as a daily crutch but as a great reminder of my full potential as a human being. As a slate-cleaner if you allow me to use that word. Tabula Rasa...my "grudge/frustration reset button". And I've been pretty good at it lately. But, you know, ... for me it is constant work, and it goes... And I do like to be reminded, again and again. Dial the number again and ask for a reminder :)

You sound like the Dalai Lama... with the exception that he focuses a bit more on the harsh realities of living in this realm, on the suffering, on the reasons why compassion is indeed the only worthwile state/emotion... to be, unconditionally...

So while I do not think your case is flawed, I think that life is flawed, actually. It is not perfection... we can take steps to approximate the divine in us, to eliminate the vengeful, the negative... but be aware that our emotions can be fickle, that external circumstances can play a major role in our emotional states, that our emotions (beneficial and unbeneficial) arise due to conditions, and that conditions are always changing.

When I say that life is flawed, I mean by that that we all suffer in this realm - we may be pursuers of happiness, yet this is because we are not in a state of happiness... at least as long as external conditions inextricably connected to the physical realm have some power over our consciousness... and we're all brothers and sisters in this flawed life, we share essentially the same drama of attachment, separation, aging, sickness, and death. In the face of all that, unconditional love is indeed the only logical answer - the only satisfactory option. And we have that potential, that connection... but the line is often somewhat crackly, and now and then it goes dead. That's when anger surfaces . . . 'tis all very sad. I wonder if sadness is closer to love or to anger... or if it's just one way of looking at things... I think sadness is different from depression. Depression is when feelings are too hard to bear we can no longer acknowledge feelings of sadness and the like.

I find a lot of what you say about love / happiness / euphoria / depression and the like very insightful and can relate very much.

But, as I said, I do wonder to what extent you will be able to hold on to your vision without on-and-off psychedelic use. I'm not saying it is not possible but I think it may require constant effort and much discipline. Well, I can only speak for myself, really---I don't believe in instant enlightenment - well, at least I don't see it happen to me, I've fooled myself in the past and I have been trying to remain humble and not go overboard with the grandiosity of my insight. On the dose you took, especially wih the AMT glow as a base to let it all unfold on, I am not surprised that you got all this. I sincerely wish that you will be able to hang onto as much of it as you can, as you are - no nootropics, no psychedelics, etc... but I have doubt. As soon as there is doubt, it can't happen. I have this doubt for myself, and for you a bit, too - though if you yourself have no doubt whatsoever, then you may well be on the way to maintaining much of what the psychedelic you has so well understood.

Love

PS. Downloading that Ferry Corsten now. I want to know what you heard at the time ;)
 
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You know, its great to see that you seem to be ready for change, but it takes areal man to do so. I must ask, do you ever think about this stuff while not under the influence of Psychedelics? Its really very deep, and has meaning that can be put to use in everyones life. But I hope you can deal with stuff with out these drugs, becasue even though they seem to help solve the problems of life. you need to be sober to act them out.

I know your responsible in your use, but I just believe you should be able to contemplate in a normal state of mind. I hope I make sense.

Your reports are always so fun to read!
 
"I have been perverted to hate the world, when our natural state is love, when love would literally solve all the world's problems, because it would cause us to all treat everything else with compassion and as we would want to be treated were the roles reversed. Then how would anything be wrong? To be wrong would upset the balance, and we would have no reason to do that. It would be insane to do that, totally illogical. We have more than enough resources to feed everyone on the planet if the rich would provide for the poor, who they would love, so they would of course feed them to insure they lived. Of course no one would hate, which would mean no wars, no religious hatred because spirituality is universal and they're all pointing at the same thing: love and we are all one. But of course this is the human joke. Human nature vs. perfection (another dichotomy). But what if I explain how to be perfect? Here it is; it's shockingly simple. As a person, all you can do is make sure you do nothing but output love into the universe. That will cause everything you encounter to give you love in return. This insures that you are happy, even euphoric, 100% of the time, without drugs. If you do this, everyone will be happy and the world will be perfect. Can one person cause this change in humanity, as a rippling in the pool of existence and life that grows, slowly at first and then with increasing speed to eventually become the new pool? Perhaps. I think so. I know so, if we will all agree to it"

my favorite part. ive been thinking about this sort of thing for a verrrryy long time but can never quite put it to words. it comes out like some type of rant.. but you put it perfect here!

"So while I do not think your case is flawed, I think that life is flawed, actually. It is not perfection... we can take steps to approximate the divine in us, to eliminate the vengeful, the negative... but be aware that our emotions can be fickle, that external circumstances can play a major role in our emotional states, that our emotions (beneficial and unbeneficial) arise due to conditions, and that conditions are always changing.

"When I say that life is flawed, I mean by that that we all suffer in this realm - we may be pursuers of happiness, yet this is because we are not in a state of happiness... at least as long as external conditions inextricably connected to the physical realm have some power over our consciousness... and we're all brothers and sisters in this flawed life, we share essentially the same drama of attachment, separation, aging, sickness, and death."

for now, but has mankind ever experienced a society with this ripple of unconditional love going around. im sure it would COMPLETELY change just about every way we live our lives right now when it happens. because look at it this way, when those flaws happen, now we dont have do depend on just ourselves to pull us back into that mindstat--now its all the people around us too, which makes it alot more dificult to fall to negative thought paterns. when you have the strength of a pure intensions, when those external conditions try to atack your faith you can fight it with a trancendant view of things, when that happens you just get reminded of what everything acutaly is and what is going on in a spiritual sense.
 
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Thanks for the detailed responses. A few things. First of all, I realize this is an ideal, and that life is not perfect. I realized this when I wrote this last night/this morning. But it seems to me that the only way to even possibly make it happen is to live as if it is not a distant ideal, but a truth.

I'm also still stuck on the duality between taking a break from psychedelics and continuing to use them. I mean, I do feel that they continue to enrich my life despite using them all too often. Some, like AMT, honestly make me a more loving and communicative person. But I definitely do need to find out how to do that on my own. I need more mental discipline. I definitely don't plan on stopping forever though, not at all. And unlike Church, I definitely want to keep moderating PD and TR.

I also realized upon re-reading after coming down that I didn't cover every aspect of what I was thinking about. Far from it actually. I managed most of the important parts, though. I also understand the cosmic joke now. It's that physical life IS heaven. It IS the best part of existence. However, so many people are unhappy and live their lives pretty much waiting to die, as if death is preferrable. But in fact, in death you ascend to the universal consciousness, and the universal consciousness by itself exists in an empty void. The overwhelming boredom and pointlessness of raw existence is what the universal consciousness escapes by creating the physical universe and all that resides within it. So the joke is that at all times most people are wishing for what they don't have. In life they're wishing for death, and in death they realize they prefer life.

And as a matter of fact, "Imagine" by John Lennon was going through my head during this trip while I wrote the second big stream of consciousness :)

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I must ask, do you ever think about this stuff while not under the influence of Psychedelics? Its really very deep, and has meaning that can be put to use in everyones life. But I hope you can deal with stuff with out these drugs, becasue even though they seem to help solve the problems of life. you need to be sober to act them out.

I think about this stuff almost 100% of the time, all day, every day. It's to the point where few trips really add anything new. In fact, this trip didn't really add anything new, it just helped glue everything together and provided a powerful reinforcement of my ideas. I have incorporated the psychedelic mindstate into my sobriety as effectively as I know how. The key will be to see if I can maintain it after not taking any psychedelics for a while. I am confident that I will be able to, though.

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Xorkoth,

I have to admit my eyes watered up here in the computer lab while reading your report. It is amazing and full of life...very real...

I am so happy that you have experienced this and allowed yourself to fully open up to it.

I know its been developing with you for some time.....I could feel the electricity zapping me through PMs.....it is obvious there is a generation of a great amount of energy in you....beautiful to think that this euphoric energy IS reality!

The only time I've come close to this type of thing was during a zen sesshin (retreat) walking out into the bright sunlight after being inside the zendo all morning long and being temporarily blinded by the glare....for that moment I looked into the trees and clouds and realized that reality was......nothing!! How beautiful and reassuring in that moment!! :)8o

Life is a beautiful thing! It is so precious like you say every nanosecond eat it up its good for you alldayeveryday!!!

Love! Love! Love! :) =D :D ;)
Samadhi Smiling...
 
Man Gets Message !

Is it 2012?
That isn't relevant!:)

Can we do it?
That doesn't matter either , we must try to do it!


They have no power, none at all, unless you let them. Do not make their problem your problem. What happened to you is their problem, not yours even one bit. It is not your fault. It is not your fault. It is not your problem. You are free of them. Your past makes you who you are, but you have the ability to interpret that in any way that you choose. You have 100% control over your destiny. Bitter, jealous? Why? Why waste a single nanosecond of your precious life, that beautiful gift that you have which is yours and which no one can take away from you unless they kill you, and even then they cannot lower the quality of the life that you lived. Only you can do that, by lying to yourself. Think about it, really think about it. You know I'm right. There is no flaw in my case.

100% correct!



I, Xorkoth, pledge to live my life this way, as best as I am able, forever, with all my heart.

Do you?


I try , I try ! and will succeeed at in the end!



Brilliant report Xorkoth, but my remarks toward the top are made with this in mind , do not expect success, much is against us ! But if you keep the love for yourself you cannot fail but to give it to others!
Ken Kesey was a believer in forgiveness, that's exactly what you are advocating and you are correct on that for sure!
Never waver , you will but you'll come back everytime , I sense this, I know it !:)
 
A bit of a mundane question, what with the subject matter at hand, but: why did you convert the AMT to the HCl?

Just so it's easier to plug, or any other reason? Like, is it more easily obsorbed, perhaps?

I have found bases easy to plug even if they don't readily dissolve in water. A syringe squishes most of it in there anyway, and the alternative - dissolving it in a tiny amount of oil - I have also found to work well.
 
I like to plug it, because it makes the come-up about twice as fast and more gentle and eliminates the nausea. Plus, I have a hunch that the HCl is gentler anyway. Someone else reported the same. I've tried plugging the base before and it didn't work too well compared to when I converted it to the HCl. The past 3 or 4 times I've done AMT have been in this manner.
 
Your words echo my beliefs. These truely are universal truths. It is a shame that so many people would truly pass your words off as "high kid bullshit" when in fact it is nothing of the sort. These are the kind of truths philosphers and spiritual people have been learning, teaching, and supporting for years. In fact I have read so many things with these common parrallels that I am completly and utterly in total belief. How could so many people come to the same conclusion independantly? Some may have used the psychedelic drugs, some meditation... but the words are unified and their meaning the same.

The real question is how to keep this love and peace with you at all times in a world like ours... that truely is the question. Its not possible to stay at a ++++ forever on drugs, and for most people more than a few minutes of meditation is all they can endure.

I choose both paths, meditation and psychedelics, both have shown me these universal truths. Constant awareness of the things you said must be brought with you everywhere, everyday. Being consious of this always and forever is the goal I seek.

I do believe some people have become enlightened as I have spent time around monks devoted entirely to their meditations. In fact one conversation I had with one of these monks was about psychedelics. He said that he LOVES mushrooms, that they showed him many things, but that there is no point in taking them anymore. He claims he is at a ++++ every moment of his day, and if you knew him and the sense of peace & love he radiates you would be hard pressed to disagree.

Peace.
 
I feel something like tenderness, almost a pain, towards you right now.

You know I used to trip a lot, more than even you ;) Well I didn't make a big stink about it on the internet, but I quit tripping late in December. And I didn't quit as a result of some life shattering event or anything either- I had only tripped 4 times in the two months prior, and they were pretty mundane, as far as that sort of thing goes, nothing was going on.

What changed was that I looked at myself and realized that the real trip comes from within. By getting twisted, it was as if I was using an external tool to look inside the bud of my heart and seeing the flower, without the pain, the unbelievable struggle that it would take to truly break free and open myself to the light.

And I was worried, because tripping seemed to be helping me make progress towards the impossible we all strive to achieve. I was worried because that process seems like a perfect analog of a butterfly's struggle to free itself from the cocoon; If anyone helps the butterfly, its wings don't develop the necessary strength to fly and it dies- and our wings aren't even physical, they're a part of the soul.

I humbly urge you to look within your heart, and find what is right. Now, engaged, do you feel its prudent to base your character and build your soul on these chemicals? Especially considering that you're a prolific figure in this world, and the people with power can come knocking on your door and take it all away.

Or would it be better to take the time to really look within and begin the process of dismantling an ego that can persist throughout the strongest trips with simple meditation and sober reflection? Thats what I'm in the process of right now, and while it hurts, it is a good pain.

I certainly haven't written off psychedelic drugs. I'm still interested in preserving a few specimens for the future, when I'll be able to take them without needing to get anything from the experience, without being enamored and titillated by them.


As an aside, if you decide to get involved with meditation, make sure not to choose a style that promises anything, like transcendental meditation or some crap like that. Any magical technique basically amounts to a drug replacement. This is probably the best guide I've found.
 
Your trip report also made me think of the overused phone/message analogy.

Once you get the message, it isn't time to hang up the phone or start blabbing away- the message is actually a packet that it is going to take your brain the rest of your life to compute.

What you've written in this trip report is unprocessed kid-on-drug type stuff, and its getting a lot of friends-on-drugs type feedback.

When you say you want to spend the rest of your life committed to love and doing what is good and right, what does that really mean? Have you actually given any thought to what compassion, good, and evil really are? The way it is written it is senseless cliche; when you get down to it the world's thinkers have spent their lives trying to figure out what right and good are, and they haven't been able to yet- although it seems like we've made progress.

Even something that seems as simple as feeding the world is a puzzle when you get down to it- is it really charitable feed the people who spend all their money and time smoking crack or shooting dope? And that is just an extreme case to illustrate a point. I dont think a philosopher in the world even noticed the problem that arose when agriculture made it possible to eat without working for food- is that itself a just situation?

I believe most people in this world are already trying to do good, but the world is complicated and everything has hidden repercussions. Important decisions are never easy, and black and white type good and evil is rare indeed- I've only ever seen shades of gray.

Again I urge you to take some time off from psychedelics. I swear to God it is like crawling out of a womb or something. Especially if you're going to get married, and ESPECIALLY if you plan on having kids.

Now I've spoken my true feelings, which you kind of asked for, and I just hope you don't pissed at me for it :(
 
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Wow! Great to hear that you feel like you've passed a milestone in your use of psychedelics. It sounds like quite a catharsis ... only when I thought you couldn't "break through" any further, you go and experience this! It seems to me that you've had all these elements present in your other trips, but it just never quite came together all at once, and with such intensity and conviction.

Early on in my experience with psychedelics I learned that outwardly expressing love was the most important thing one can do. And that happiness comes much easier if you don't take things personally. I've definitely made improvements, and I'm happier because of it, but this is clearly not such a simple on/off switch. It takes effort ... everyday, but it seems you are willing to put in that effort. A lot of what you say really meshes with a book I recently read (I think at the recommendation of Jamshyd) called The Four Agreements. There really is no reason (on an individual level) that life on earth can't be "heaven". The world is love to him who treats it as such.

Hottbuttaz brings up some valid points though. You speak of these things here as though they are black and white. It does come off slightly as a kid-on-drugs thing ... but I know you (well, I know Xorkoth) ;) and I know you think about these things much more deeply than most. I know you are much more than a string of cliché comments on love and world peace. Maybe part of it is that I just don't share the same degree of optimism about human nature. Is love really the natural state? I mean what is love? The love that you speak of requires a degree of selflessness that I don’t think is inherent in the natural world, at least on the surface. Were we 100% loving animals before we evolved into humans? I believe there are two kinds of love (I just made this up so don’t hang on it too much) ... “feeling love” (subjective love felt for yourself and all your surroundings/spiritual love) and “action love” (altruistic actions through which you express this love). The first is already difficult enough, but the second seems to be impossible to perfect. I believe that happiness and unconditional love are human potentials. They can be aspired to and achieved, but are by no means the natural state of things … at least at our level of existence. Saying, “God is love” is attractive, and I believe true on the deepest level, but seems to be somewhat hidden by the reality in which we are raised and conditioned.

Look at all the problems in the world ... wars, genocide, crime, etc. Class-based societies and religion create conflict all over the world. World hunger … you can’t just drop off food to hungry people. The solution is extremely complex. I don’t mean this in a negative way at all, but it’s plain to see that you have financial security … and money is being spent on various commodities including drugs, when it could be going to a good cause. I’m not saying that makes you a bad person, (not even hinting at it!), but to say that rich people should just give up all their money is somewhat of a double standard. There's also seems to be so much meaninglessness and hopelessness in the developed world ... It's hard for me to think that the full human potential will be attained in any conceivable timeframe.

Let me make it clear though … I do give you credit, because I know you have truly dedicated yourself to this ideal. I am happy for you and I hope you continue to try everyday to bring more love into the world, and that you maintain this wonderful state of mind that you've discovered. I will try and do the same. Peace and love to you! :D
 
One of my biggest gripes with the whole business of changing the world and spreading love is no one even looks at what love really is. People even say "God is love"

If you really look at love, it isn't all pillow talk and big wet anime eyes like we want to pretend it is. Love is actually pure intensity, energy, in all forms of emotions; love is a lot like tripping. Think of someone you really love. If you really love them, you've had worse fights with them than with your worst enemy. Love is making decisions and sacrifices that tear your heart open. Spreading love in the world, imo, would be like lighting the wold on fire.

But don't think I'm getting down on you, I'm just venting in general. I know you were tripping when you wrote the report, and you're def. one of the most mature people I know, besides there is nothing wrong with it anyway. May the love shine from your heart, and bring intensity and life to the whole world! :)
 
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