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Americans and a 10 year old Eing (Aparently)

Read the entire thread and although no one can conclusively determine whether or not the kid was on a pill,
WHAT IN THE WORLD IS A KID ALLOWED AT A RAVE?!?!?!?
I dun think such exposure would be suitable for such a yougn person.
Let's try and keep aust beautiful and INTELLIGENT by doing our part and discouraging such behaviour.
*waves featherly wing*
P.S. that "tunnel treatment" is PRETTY harsh and i would not wish it on my worst enemy.
 
Pretty scary stuff, kids at that age even being at a rave!
At least *most* of the folks in that thread were responsible enough to say it was tragic and sad.
And that tunnel treatment..not happy Jan! Disturbing enough as it was, what a waste of good acid!
 
Yeah, well at Frantic Freeland 2 (a couple of weeks ago) I noticed about 4 or 5 girls about 10-12 years old. They were there with there older siblings (i guess) and were dancing up a storm... I don't think they were on anything though... Thats just stoopid. I mean we are all old enough to know what we are doing and to realise the consequences... they are following the crowd without knowing what they do... Its very sad
 
Pardon my ignorance , but what is the purpose of an all ages event if you're going to say that 10-12 year olds aren't welcome?
I mean , does all ages mean like,16+ ?? didn't think so... What do you expect's going to happen? there's no age limit on drugs , and a (presumably 10yr old) doesn't give a shit that it may hurt his brain , he wants to try it like a new roll-er-coaster
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i have seen kids at parties before , it always concerns me that a developing mind is being damaged by drugs .
At a party in Sydney Helter Skelter a couple of years ago, i heard reports that they found an 11 year old at the party and took him home. When it comes down to it the promoter has a duty to ensure that no one that young is allowed into the party
in my opinion
 
I live down in St. Kilda, and I've got to say, I don't think I've seen anything sadder that the Festival two years ago when there was the street rave next to Luna Park.
About half way down the street there was a group of girls, who could not have possibily been any older than 11, clearly tripping so hard they had absolutely no idea what the fuck was going on, let alone where they were - two of them were literally crawling on the ground. Thankfully some St. Johns people saw them and I assume looked after them - but for god's sake, what on earth goes through the mind of the arsehole that gives a young child a trip! They should be taken out and shot for messing with such an immature mind - who knows what could have happened to them later - assault/rape/etc!
 
More proof that we are de-evolving as a organism. When i was 9, all i cared about was Voltron on tv, Getting transformers for my b'day, riding my bmx and doing well in the spelling bee at school.
LSD? E? WTF?
What a loss of innocence.
 
In my opinion no child that young should be exposed to the rave or drug environment. For fucks sake, let kids be kids! What happened to cartoons, bikes and toys? At that age, I dont know if I even knew that drugs existed, let alone considered taking anything. And what is with these kids parents? My parents would no more have let me out till all hours of the morning, than throw me off the Harbour Bridge.
I agree with everyone here that a young kid at a rave, even if it is an all age event is wrong. They are very impressionable at that age, and are not well enough equipped mentally to make accurate judgements on 'the scene' and drugs. We have all made a conscious and for the most part informed decision to take drugs. However, a child of 10 etc. is not mature enough to make an informed decision. I know that if I saw someone that young at a party, I would be extremely tempted to take them home (kicking and screaming if I had too!!!!)
 
sick puppies...that is way too young. i'm even glad that i didn't start taking ecstasy until i was..ummm..32... i know if i'd had it at 18 i'd be one fucked up little puppy by now! where are his parents?..don't answer that...probably around somewhere smashed off their faces too! very sad. just another thing to add to the paranoia about drugs.
 
My thirteen year old sister has been harassing me to take her to a rave for a while now... but i've said i shall take her when she is 16... fair enough?
However, I am in two minds regarding what I would do if she wanted to try E. I mean on one hand she is better trying it around me, someone who will keep an eye on her, rather than some other dodgy fuka...
But on the other hand, is 16 too young... I was only 17 myself, but I would stiil feel guilty...
I have no idea whether she wants to try it or not... but its a big 'what if' floating around in my head... What do you guys think?
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I think it's sad.
If he was my little boy, I'd have him tucked into bed between his stuffed dinosaurs, reading him a bit o' Harry Potter before lights out.
 
I am an american,,,, ( slouches) and i was apalled but it also,,, i am one of the older ones of my group and i would be totally freaked out to see a young one like that rollin,
I know alot of people are apalled by it too. but they do seem to start taking e early,, though i also did not start till 30 ,,, so i guess i am a minority here
sorry for the ignorance of americans,,,sometimes,, i am confused by it all !
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OK... what would you do if there was a younger... say 15-16 year old brother or sister who gave you this little ultimatum.
"I know you take ecstacy. Take me to an all-ages rave, and give me an e, or I will tell mum and dad that you do them."
There are some situations where "bullshit" and "fuck off until you're 18" just don't cut it...
BigTrancer
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BT, that's where the cunning of a muthafuka comes in. I'd get them to smoke some jays before hand, given em a pill (not of E, a panadol/sudafed some shit with an E scrathced in), and slip a tiny bit of wizz in their drink and tell them they are peaking hard!
A tiny little bit of wizz wouldn't hurt em, cost you jack shit and keep them with their mouths shut for a while
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PeterPoppa & BT you've both touched on a point that relates to me. I have been in a situation where I've had to make a decision in respect to E usage. In this instance it's my 16 yr old neice. The situation was that she was being pressured into taking E by all her friends, and having the knowledge that I do, this scared me. What does one do in a situation like this - do you play tough uncle and know that she'll do it anyway - god knows what pills she'll end up with and what bunch of immature idiots she'll drop with. Or do I take her under my wing, and introduce her into a drug scene that could have lontg term effects on her. Tough call it was and so I looked back at my years as a Youth Worker and did what I thought was right.
To me the answer was empowerment - empowerment with information to have the knowledge to make a mature and rational decision. I introduced her to Bluelight and many other articles concerning MDMA. Her thirst for knowledge as shown me her respect for her body. She made the decision to wait until she felt she was ready both mentaly and spiritually. To see if the rave scene is where she wants to be. We have discussed her dropping a pill and I have emphasised that from my point of view I would prefer that she wait until she's at least 18. But in the end it's her decision, I can't be around her 24/7.
I know many would think I made the wrong decision, but having been in a situation similiar to her, I wish there was someone there for me. Someone who offered me support and guidance - someone who informed me what I was taking and what damage I was doing. In the end it boils down to harm minimisation - as much as we don't like to see young kids doing drugs, it's a reality that we must face.
I have tried to show my niece that there is so much more to the rave scene - the music the vibe, the people - and not just a drug fest as all her friends perceive it to be. Although, for many reasons, they are right in their perception.
Ignorance, denial and straight out discipline is not the answer in the majority of cases - take it from a Youth Worker
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Cherub- sorry didn’t mean to offend, the topic was just to get ppl to click on in
lots of as from the Aust section don't check the other sections – elitist snobs (hehe)
 
well we cant really winge about it cause we dont even know if he was given n e thing, i dont think someone would be so stupid, come on its not that bad if he was taken to a rave, everyone would of looked after him, well it would be better than taking him to a place like cabramatta LOL and i agree with BT maybe the lil fucker bribed him hahaha
 
Since this thread is dealing mostly with young people and raves, I might take the opportunity to investigate this issue of mine a bit further.
Haste, thanks for your comments, it helps a lot to know that someone else would have made the same decision in a similar situation. Truth is, this 15 year old is the younger sister of a close friend of mine, and fortunately nothing further has been mentioned of the matter. However, she's not going to be older for some time now, and I have no doubt that the question will be raised again in the near future. I had previously decided to provide information to her initially, and arm her with enough information (and check to make sure that she understood it) before having a good talk with her.
At the same time, I came across another dilemma. Now, supposing I gave her the information, and educated her as much as I could, given her receptiveness to both my information and concerns... if she decided that she wanted to drop,
would I be willing to make sure that she got a good pill, or
would I wash my hands of the matter having piously decided that I had 'done my duty', or
would I try SupaspeeD's method (albeit a placebo version, plus probably a generous amount of the 'acceptable vice' - alcohol) in the hope that she would decide it wasn't worth the effort?
Now hopefully, if (and when) the question does come about, she will make the most sensible decision for herself at the time. I know that with or without my aid, whatever she decides to do - she will do, so I might as well make sure that her decision is based on as much fact as I can provide her with. But will my perspective on the issue bias her decision? I guess there is the loathed "media favourite" option, of selectively presenting the facts to her, in order to try and make her choose the direction I would prefer... but again, I guess the decision will ultimately be hers.
BigTrancer
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im 16, and since I read bluelight i guess that makes me "respect my body blah blah blah..."??
ah sorry, it doesnt mean jack. I read bluelight to see what good pills are out etc, and as much as i gotta give props to you all for it, thats it.
im not here to get informed and all that jazz, but you'll all probably point it down to my immaturity or something like that, so be it.
but i agree, if I found out my little brother was doin anythin like me, including drinkin, just to say i wouldnt be pleased would be a understatement.
 
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