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Am I "Depressed" Or Is It Attributed To Many Things In My Life?

kanyeknievel

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Alright I just really want to get this all out with a bunch of opinions from people who have most likely gone through the same thing I have since I don't really know if I am "DEPRESSED" or if I am 'Despressed from stuff in my life now' or what.

I never really thought of myself as depressed or clinically depressed, I am a Psychology major and a damn good one and I do know about Depression and what it is and symptoms, but then there is a lot more to me that I don't know EXACTLY what all of it has done to me temporarily, and could be causing a possible slump right now.

My current feelings are generally like this : I feel basically fine through-out the day, though I don't feel like doing much as in going out and STAY out. I generally have to force myself to stay at my friend's house longer than a couple hours because after a few hours I get a feeling in my head that "I just want to go home." Though there isn't really anything I do at home other than watch a T.V. show, possibly play a game on the computer, look stuff up and learn, play guitar.

I have a lot of trouble falling asleep and I can't go to sleep basically ever without taking PM medication, and I NEVER can seem to stay asleep the whole way through, BUT I seem to attribute that to my bladder as I always wake up and have to pee. Though when I sleep I tend to sleep until I feel "Okay, I should get up.. I've been sleeping too long." Or "I need to get up/ I can't go to sleep anymore." Because if I don't have class or something I need to get up for, I don't really see a point in getting up to not do anything.

Right now it may seem like I am definitely depressed, but here is all of the kickers : I grew up from about 10-17 with an Alcoholic mom who scared me and my Dad would go on business trips sometimes and there were times that scared me, that bothered me I feel and definitely caused me to most likely do what I ended up doing Sophmore year of Highschool.. I got DRUNK the same night as I got HIGH , and I chose to get high.. and I was high every day basically for 3 years+ straight.

I got arrested, and around that time I did do other drugs a little. I had tripped on shrooms once, taken percocets a few times, xanax a few times. Then I got arrested, and got house arrest at 17, I tripped on LSD, had a bad trip after half-way through, then after I stopped smoking for 1 week for court, I smoked again.. the same amount I would as if I DIDN'T stop.. 3 bowls of a bong, in a minute basically. I got SO high it freaked me the fuck out, I thought I was tripping and I got laced with LSD and I freaked out so much that I put myself into freaking out mode/safety mode, and have had Depersonalzation since (I have dealt with DP since then and the past year and more it has just been there.. it sucks, but it is no where near as bad as it used to be. THough I do feel it effects me a good amount cause I still think "Why has this not gone away, what if it doesn't. I don't want to be like this my whole life.." and if I ever think of it I lose hope of that.. but I generally don't think of that.)

After that happened I couldn't smoke anymore cause I had it in my mind that if I even SMELLED weed I would get "high' and freak myself out. I slowly learned over the years that I was being ridiculous and I can smoke now, but it isn't the same with the DP so I just decided last night to stop smoking until I can straighten my mood and life out. During the time where I didn't smoke weed, and smoking was my whole persona through-out high school... it was my life, I accepted it to be me, I was happy, I was a BIG drug dealer. Had lots of friends, so many fun times, it was the peak of my happiness ... then it all came crashing down. I took E at least 50-75 times within a year, I then proceeded to get into Oxycontin, and did that A LOT... then moved onto Heroin which I did a good amount. I never shot it up, and never was a hardcore addict. And I decided to finally stop before it got out of hand and went on Suboxone over a year ago.

During the Suboxone time I still did do Opiates from time to time, I did coke binges a few times, I smoked weed and took Benzos in excess random days, sporadically. Then, through this whole time.. with how capable I am, how smart I know I am, how much of a competitive nature I have, how much of a perfectionist I am and hate losing.. I didn't go to a 4 year college like almost everyone else. I want to be there, I feel like I am not living up to my potential for that. I never learned responsibility, to work for anything, I have always been given everything. I am used to instant gratification. I notice how I was at my peak and I crashed into where I am now, and I am losing in my eyes, in life.

Everything I do, the process of things , even though they may be VERY BIG and VERY hard to do that I have done, such as quitting heroin, quitting drugs, quitting any drug I did on a DIME... I don't notice how big it was, I don't take it in and it is as if I just climbed a mountain, stayed at the peak of it for a second, noticed the next mountain and started going down the one I was at and onto the next one without appreciating how hard it was to get to the top of the last.

An example of this would be how I chose, myself, to get off of Suboxone 2 weeks ago. I told myself I will do it, and I did. I ordered Kratom and I haven't taken Suboxone once since 14days ago and I have been doing amazing with it. I also have been learning guitar furiously and improving immensely in the 4 months I have been playing, but I don't notice the process of everything.

Through-out all of this... all of the drugs, what they did to my brain and mood, one of my very good friends died in October 2012. I woke up to hear on the phone from my best friend, -name- died last night..... it was devastating. To hear someone so close to me had DIED, to experience DEATH already... while going through everything I have been. THEN a month later, my dog that I loved more than anyone outside of my family, more than anyone could possibly imagine, she was MY dog, a yellow lab, 11 years old. I loved her so much, she was with me through everything and always there for me and just typing makes my eyes water... she had to get her leg amputated from a cancerous tumor. She survived for 2 months, was able to swim in the pool (her favorite thing to do) before we had to close it... then one day I was in the bathroom, she had been breathing very heavily and her heart beating fast the past 2 days (the vet wouldn't be back till Wed. and it was Tues.) my parents scream my name, I run out and they are crying and she is on the floor.. not breathing and I run as fast as I can and start trying to give her CPR and look at her.. I hear one last heart beat and look in her eyes and tell her "Its okay Honey, I love you so much" and she was gone.... right in my arms, in front of my eyes. .....

I have come to terms in the best way possible with that situation, though I still can't think of it without crying. But those TWO deaths, one of them having to SEE a living thing go from life to death , it really fucked me up. It makes me think differently, or did. It made me think.. everything will die, my dad will, my best friends, my mom, and brothers. I will have to watch it all. THis right now.. what I see and do ... it just.. won't be here? And it is so hard for me to know that and just accept it and live it also.


So.... I really have no idea if I am actually DEPRESSED to the point where I would need "anti-depressants" , or if it is from everything in my past years. The years of being high, the crash of my life, the disappointment of myself, the lack of learning life skills, the many, many drugs I did in short time that my brain has not yet recovered from and I have not let it. The Depersonalization and my tension headaches. The after effects of not being on suboxone anymore, the deaths of 2 in 2 months. Basically all the drugs/alcohol effecting my thinking/mood and the events leading up to now.. I don't know whether those are fueled by depression or cause a temporary depression in which will go away as I learn and move forward... but it is very hard.


SOrry for the long post, but it all is necessary. It is impossible for me to take a "self-test" cause the questions have variables for me. I don't eat much cause Adderall makes me not eat. I can't sleep easy cause drugs made me sleep, etc.


Thank you for whoever does read this and responds.
 
My life and the events that I have gone through, good and bad.. everything in such a short time... I honestly feel it is a story that should be told and written down. Though then I think that maybe not, but really.. a biography of my life and myself I feel would be a great read , I just have trouble pin pointing what the whole message and point of the book would be and revolve around.
 
Yeah, you've definitely been through a lot of painful things. In my opinion, depression lies on a continuum, so it's not like you're either depressed or fine. At this point, a lot of the pain is still fresh, so you're not really depressed yet. Actually, you seem to be doing pretty well if you're contemplating a biography of your life.
 
Hey Kanye

I did a load of shit when I was a teenager including LSD, shrooms, pills, speed. I think that it's had a major impact on my behaviour and feelings throughout my life. In the last few years I've lost several much-loved family members and I think I've been using alcohol as a crutch. I'm now in the process of getting help and I expect this will include counselling or some kind of therapy for depression. You're after opinions on your state of mind: I'd say, basically, if you're even considering the possibility that you might be clinically depressed, then please go and speak to a professional. Your psychology major is a fantastic achievement but you can't be expected to judge yourself objectively.

Hope this makes sense and that you find some help.

On another note: I think it would be amazing if you produced an autobiography. Then back to my basic point: getting help and talking to someone about this would almost certainly help with this!

Best wishes.
 
Man, I'm really sorry to hear about the shit you've been through. The death of your dog had me in tears... I can really sympathize with you. I seemt o suffering a very similar depression to you and it's made me think about wether it's clinical or cuased by life events. I have had a very similar upbringing to you weirdly enough, I too grew up with an alcoholic mother thought my childhood and teenage years and my dad was always away trying to make ends meet for our family and I would only see him once a year. From what I can gather you may be experiencing depersonalization from a potential pannic attack that may have been caused from cannabis. I suffer from panic attacks and the DP is very intense and lasts for quite a while sometimes.

To me atleast it sounds more like anxiety and/or panic attacks.
 
i aam currently suffering from the same mind set you are...I dont believe i am depressed because i have stuff to live for. But i do wake up really unmotivated and it makes me sad because both my parents are older sibling are both motivated. I am on suboxone and have been for 4 weeks but i am already starting my taper because i want to be healthy. I know when i had 6 months completely sober before my last relapse i was really really happy. Motivation is all i want out of my life right now. I dont wanna believe i am depressed because i dont have a reason to be. Im sorry this prob didint help you but i wanted to say when i was 6 months sober i was happy happy happy
 
Yeah, you've definitely been through a lot of painful things. In my opinion, depression lies on a continuum, so it's not like you're either depressed or fine. At this point, a lot of the pain is still fresh, so you're not really depressed yet. Actually, you seem to be doing pretty well if you're contemplating a biography of your life.

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first off i'd only consider anti-depressants if I was feeling seriously suicidal or if I was self-harming or harming others because of depression

because anti-deps numb yourself to a state of not feeling, which is good if you feel you want to off yourself, but not good because feeling is living and I believe Anti-deps create a plateau in you progressing as a person (not good)

if I was in your position I would create a balanced lifestyle of getting off everything chemical, eating healthy, exercising 1 hour a day (could help with your sleeping issues as well)

remember time heals all wounds, and how you deal with this situation will help define you as a person, so I suggest you pursue things, that you know will be beneficial long-term
 
Thank you for all the replies everybody.. I don't know what it is honestly. But Heatrock.. I definitely sympathize and am just like you with what you explained.

It is strange.. I look at my new dog Molly, she is such a good dog, but all I want is for her to be like Honey. All I want is Honey back, I don't think of this really every unless it just comes to mind.. but when it does, I think "Why am I getting emotional over Honey. I thought I fixed this, moved on."

I have figured out I need to believe in something.. to have life, the things the happen, the things have happened, make sense. I couldn't just believe in GOD and all of that, so I believed in something I DO believe... and that is Everything DOES happen for reason.

I was born and created with all of the skills, attributes, traits that I was born with for a reason. To do something in my life, and I feel it is something that is going to be big, something moving, something on a global scale or country scale, not just to be another person that you see in the mall and think nothing else of... I was born with all of the amazing things I was lucky to be born with, been through my mom being an alcoholic and some traumatic events from that, all the drug abuse, getting arrested, having Maciek and Honey die to experience them.. to prepare me and be pre-conditions for my next major event.

I believe that life is both a mixture of Free-Will and Destiny. We choose to do what we want , eat, watch on t.v., drink, where to go, what movie to see, what people to talk to.. BUT.. there are MAJOR things and events that WILL happen and are mean't to happen and we were predisposed to those past events to prepare us for the event that is suppose to happen. And judging on how exactly we chose to use our freewill , will make us stronger and more prepared or weaker for that next major event.

EVERYTHING that led to me starting playing guitar ... there is nothing more to it than destiny, things that were meant to happen and I FEEL like I was meant to play, meant to be as skilled as I am in the 4 months I've been playing, to make an impact.. to influence people on a huge scale. Music is something that contacts every single person and if I never had gone through those events, I would never have the person experience and emotions I would to create powerful lyrics, songs, etc.

And if my DAD never was influenced by who he was to get his Ibanez LP Custom (Which has been in my house since I've been born.. and never utilized) , then I wouldn't be playing. BUt he did. Then because of what happened he had that guitar, he was in a band with the bassist and guitarist from the huge cover band "The Nerds". If he did marry my mom I wouldn't have met who I did.. if I didn't meet Maciek, and my best friend Tim.. I wouldn't have started playing.

If we never started using drugs together, moved on to heroin.. he would never have started playing. He started playing to get through the heroin and get off it. If he never played, I would never have started either. If I never befriended Maciek.. I would never have had the close relationship I had with him, and when he died.. that is when I WANTED to pick the guitar up and play. If he didn't, and Tim didn't. I wouldn't have..

I could have picked ANY dog, on ANY day, EVERY. I picked Honey cause I was supposed to. She meant the world to me and she still does and it is so hard to get over that, though I have a lot. It is very hard because she was with me through EVERY MAJOR LIFE EVENT I went through, EVERY ONE. But if she hadn't died, then we would't have gotten Molly, I wouldn't have gone through things I have to do what I am doing now.

Everything and everyone in that sense is then connected.



But though I believe in this, I still have trouble each day getting up.. it is hard. And as one person above said "Yes you are very anxious and depressed" I believe it. I just don't have any idea why I am very anxious all the time, I am not nearly as anxious as I was.. but it sucks and I don't know what else I can do besides what I am to overcome it.. and the DP and anxiety is very much related to the feelings of depression.

It is hard and I don't know what I should do to start getting healthy completely. Is there any guide for .. 'Post-Drug Abuse Life Style Changes' ? Basically a guide, suggestions, tips, etc. of what to do to start getting back to how you were before , your mind healthy after drug abuse?
 
Hey man,

Your story really hit home with me. Im also going through a severely rough time, and am also suffering from depersonalization\depression\anxiety. Things have gone pretty bad lately as I did a 2 week heroin bender and am now withdrawaling. If you ever need someone to talk to, feel free to private message me.
 
I am so sorry to hear about everything that you have gone through. It certainly sounds like you have not had the easiest life.

To me it sounds like you have depression and anxiety which was triggered from the events in your life. Therapy can be of great help because it allows you to talk about what is bothering you, and it can heal the root cause of the problem. Antidepressants treat the chemical imbalances in the brain, but they don't really address what was making you depressed in the first place. And like Mysterie said, antidepressants can make you feel numb to the world around you, not to mention they are full of other side effects and hideous "discontinuation" effects also.

So, what I suggest is therapy so you can talk about what is causing the depression, and hopefully resolve the root cause of it.

<3
 
I'm no doctor, but from what i can tell you probably are just going thourgh a really tough time.

Most people on this site have been there with drugs, and it's hard quitting. I feel depressed quite often since quitting opiates.

It is of my opinion that depression is wideley overdiagnosed and overprescribed for. IMO personally, i'd rather take opiates for depression than antidepressants. If i'm getting addicted to something, might as well get me high right?

As a matter of fact i often fight off suicidal thoughts(i would never do it though anyway), but i still dispise anti-d's and won't even waste a trip to the doctor over it.
Anyway man it looks like you've been thorough some things, but ultimately it's up to you to decide if your depressed. In my experience, it all comes down to how bad you feel and why you feel that way.
Judging from your wall of text you've just got some difficult changes and shit going on in your life, and when your coming off drugs everything is tiwce as hard. I think you may just have the "occasional Blues"
 
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