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ALTERNATIVE THEORIES V: The Build-a-bear Workshop

Naw we know capstone is crazy but my post was aimed at Guido ;)

Galileo was called a crazy heretic in his day. New, better ideas are always readily disregarded because they typically counter the social norms and conditioning. The world isn't flat, and we all know that's not a crazy statement. (Unless you're looking at a flat map of the world, then the world being flat is therefore a partially true statement.) Nor is most(lol) of what I say. Speculation can be a good thing when exploring new thoughts and ideas. More people on here should try it more often. ;) I'm constantly surprised by how on a drug site, nonetheless, creative thinking that opens people minds are ridiculed with no facts to back them up. Ya'll laugh now, but when this all comes down, even I won't be laughing, because its going to get very bad for all of us globally. Policies that look good on the surface cannot be so when they're endorsed by corporately owned politicians, and this is not a hard idea to grasp.

I'll be back on lata, got a few posts I've written up that have yet to be put on my favorite forums, like this one.

Have a creatively peaceful reality, everyone! :)
 
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Its a bunch of educated architechts and engineers debunking the official story with facts about what is and isnt possible in physics and such...

Fact 1- jet fuel burning doesnt melt steel
Fact 2 - no steel frame building ever before collapsed from fire... That day 3 did... One wasnt even hit by a plane of jet fuel
Fact 3 - melted steel in the basement/rubble
Fact 4 - multible first responders report many explosions
Fact 5 - building 7 falls over 100 feet at freefall speed

Theres a few of the most obvious ones... Any of those you dont like?



OK, sure. What about this points to a missile? I must be missing the part where you diverge from facts and start making conjecture..
 
Galileo was called a crazy heretic in his day. New, better ideas are always readily disregarded because they typically counter the social norms and conditioning. The world isn't flat, and we all know that's not a crazy statement. (Unless you're looking at a flat map of the world, then the world being flat is therefore a partially true statement.)
Um, Galileo didn't prove that the world was round, he demonstrated the motion by which the planets revolve around the sun.

And the idea that anyone actually though the world was flat in Europe is complete bunkum anyway, it was popularised by a fictional account of Columbus written by Washington Irving in the 19th C.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

And Galileo most definitely did NOT deal with "speculation", he adhered to the scientific methodology of scrupulous observation and strict application of mathematics.

Comparing oneself to Galileo is a sure fire sign of complete batshittery of the highest order.
 
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OK, sure. What about this points to a missile? I must be missing the part where you diverge from facts and start making conjecture..

Fact 1 - fbi confiscated all surveillance cameras that could have proved or disproved what hit the pentagon.
Fact 2 - the pentagon is covered with video cameras that should be able to prove or disprove what hit it and all they ever released is one video that shows a lil blur and an explosion.
Fact 3 - the damage area on the pentagon was a fair bit narrower than the jet that supposedly hit it.
 
Fact 1 - fbi confiscated all surveillance cameras that could have proved or disproved what hit the pentagon.

Fact: all surveillance footage has since been released. You'd *expect* an agency investigating a crime to take any footage of said crime to use as evidence. That's not a sign of a conspiracy

Fact 2 - the pentagon is covered with video cameras that should be able to prove or disprove what hit it and all they ever released is one video that shows a lil blur and an explosion.

That's not a fact, that's conjecture. A subtle but important difference. Not only that, it is conjecture that conflicts with your first "fact"

Fact 3 - the damage area on the pentagon was a fair bit narrower than the jet that supposedly hit it.

Not a fact. The hole was significantly larger than the 9/11 "truth" people conjectured on the basis of partial photographs. The main (there were several) hole was in fact nearly 100 feet across, more than consistent with what you'd expect from a 757.

http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/smallhole.html
 
Where? When? I wanna see a video of a plane hitting the pentagon!

They released this one after a lawsuit... Which doesnt show a plane just a big explosion...

OK, just because the videos don't show what you want them to show doesn't mean they haven't been released. 85 video tapes were seized and 85 video tapes have since been released. Only one of them captured the actual impact.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/FBI_hides_84_Pentagon_videos

Maybe you don't get how CCTV works but it doesn't run continuously like a TV camera, they capture time interval frames, and a commercial airliner moves very, very fast. The one video of the impact is EXACTLY what you'd expect to see when something moving very, very fast is recorded by a camera snapping a few frames a second.

But, hey, why let logic get in the way of a good paranoid delusion?
 
The world isn't flat, and we all know that's not a crazy statement. (Unless you're looking at a flat map of the world, then the world being flat is therefore a partially true statement.)

Common myth.. The world being flat was never an accepted idea.

I'm constantly surprised by how on a drug site, nonetheless, creative thinking that opens people minds are ridiculed with no facts to back them up.

Probably because your speculative ideas have no facts to back them up ;)

But in all honesty I don't have anything against you.. I know there are a lot of dodgy goings on in the world.. That the government is not to be trusted etc etc.. But I need facts dammit! :p

Ya'll laugh now, but when this all comes down, even I won't be laughing, because its going to get very bad for all of us globally. Policies that look good on the surface cannot be so when they're endorsed by corporately owned politicians, and this is not a hard idea to grasp

I agree.

But wait.. aren't you one of the global warming deniers / man's emissions have little to do with it folks? If so.. we're gonna fall out mister!
 
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Did Mr. Rothschild have something to do with the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines MH370?

With the disappearance of those on Malaysian Airlines MH370 billionaire, Jacob Rothschild becomes the sole owner of an important semiconductor patent.

Coincidence? I think not! The mysteries surrounding Malaysian Airliner MH-370 continue to grow with each passing day and Mr. Rothschild is smack dab in the middle.

Illuminati member, Rothschild, is believed to have exploited the airliner to gain full Patent Rights of an incredible KL-03 micro-chip. The US technological company, Freescale Semiconductor, who shared its rights with Rothschild, had twenty senior members on board who had just launched a new electronic warfare gadget for military radar system's the day before the plane went missing.




The Semiconductor company develops microprocessors, sensors, and other technology including stand-alone semiconductors that perform dedicated computing functions.

But the questions that arise are why were there so many Freescale employees traveling together? What were their jobs? Their mission? And did they employees carry valuable cargo? With all the power our elite carry, why couldn't they track down the missing plane?

Furthermore it owns Freescale RF which is involved in making solutions for Aerospace and Defense including: Battlefield communications, Avionics, HF Radar -- Band L and S, Missile Guidance, Electronic Warfare, and Identification (IFF).




But here's where it gets even more interesting. The Freescale's shareholders include the Carlyle Group who's past advisors have included ex-US president George Bush Sr and former British Prime Minister John Major. Some of the companies previous clients include the construction firm owned by the family of Osama bin Laden, the Saudi Binladin Group.

The company [Freescale] did not respond to questions from Express Online, including whether any of its missing employees had been working on the defense products.

It neither provided any responses to the latest bizarre conspiracy theory being widely published on the comments sections of newspaper websites and other internet forums.

The comment reads: "It reads: "Have you pieced together the puzzle of missing flight 370 to Beijing China? If not, here are your missing pieces.

Four days after the flight MH370 disappear, semiconductor patent was approved by the U.S. patent office patent is divided in parts of 20% between five starters. One of the owners is the company itself, Freescale Semiconductor, Austin, Texas (USA), and the other four Chinese employees of the company: Peidong Wang, Zhijun Chen, Cheng and Li Ying Zhijong, all the Suzhou City. And they all passengers of Malaysia Airlines plane disappeared on March 8, according Eternity."

It adds: "Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane. As all four Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane."




Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs. "However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved."

Although a Freescale patent exists under number US8650327, none of the names listed actually appear on the passenger manifest released by the Malaysian authorities.

If the patent holder dies, the other owners share equally in dividends from the deceased. If four of the five patentees die, then the patentee left alive gets 100% of the patent. That remaining patent holder is the company Freescale Semiconductor. Who owns Freescale Semiconductor? The answer is: Jacob Rothschild. British billionaire owns the company Blackstone, which in turn owns the company Freescale Semiconductors. Several speculations on the Internet now pay attention to this circumstance. The Rothschilds are a dynasty of financiers and international bankers of German-Jewish origin . The family is from the nineteenth century one of the most influential families of bankers and financiers of Europe."

To See Patent Upclose: http://truthnewsinternational.files.w...

Is this just another coincidence? I don't think so.

Rothschild is hiding evidence to gain the rights to this semiconductor. He wants power and he wants his money! It may have taken 239 deaths to do it, but to him, that's just part of population control. In the end, he gets him money, his fame, and his power; all while the world remains silent. Makes you sick doesn't it!
 
Its a bunch of educated architechts and engineers debunking the official story with facts about what is and isnt possible in physics and such...

Fact 1- jet fuel burning doesnt melt steel
Fact 2 - no steel frame building ever before collapsed from fire... That day 3 did... One wasnt even hit by a plane of jet fuel
Fact 3 - melted steel in the basement/rubble
Fact 4 - multible first responders report many explosions
Fact 5 - building 7 falls over 100 feet at freefall speed

Theres a few of the most obvious ones... Any of those you dont like?

Hello. I'm a former steel fabricator and iron-worker with great knowledge of chemistry and engineering.

The actual maximum burning temperature of a Jet-A fuel (standard jet fuel type in U.S.) is 980 deg. Celsius. If you refer to the Iron-Iron Carbide phase diagram, the temperature at which steel changes from cementite and pearlite (strong phases of steel) to austenite (significantly less strong) is 702.5 deg. Celsius. Also, if a steel structure is exposed to a temperature just below or at the eutectic (702.5 deg.) for a period of time, martinsite is formed (very weak). All it would take is a few I-beams to lose their structural integrity before the "chain reaction" would start.

The World Trade Center wasn't a standard steel frame building. The towers were designed and built in the mid-1960s through the early 1970s. They represented a new approach to skyscrapers in that they were to be very lightweight and involved modular construction methods in order to accelerate the schedule and to reduce the costs. To a structural engineer, a skyscraper is modeled as a large cantilever vertical column. Each tower was 64 m square, standing 411 m above street level and 21 m below grade. This produces a height-to-width ratio of 6.8. The total weight of the structure was roughly 500,000 t, but wind load, rather than the gravity load, dominated the design. The building is a huge sail that must resist a 225 km/h hurricane. It was designed to resist a wind load of 2 kPa—a total of lateral load of 5,000 t.
In order to make each tower capable of withstanding this wind load, the architects selected a lightweight “perimeter tube” design consisting of 244 exterior columns of 36 cm square steel box section on 100 cm centers (see Figure 3). This permitted windows more than one-half meter wide. Inside this outer tube there was a 27 m × 40 m core, which was designed to support the weight of the tower. It also housed the elevators, the stairwells, and the mechanical risers and utilities. Web joists 80 cm tall connected the core to the perimeter at each story. Concrete slabs were poured over these joists to form the floors. In essence, the building is an egg-crate construction that is about 95 percent air, explaining why the rubble after the collapse was only a few stories high. The egg-crate construction made a redundant structure (i.e., if one or two columns were lost, the loads would shift into adjacent columns and the building would remain standing). Prior to the World Trade Center with its lightweight perimeter tube design, most tall buildings contained huge columns on 5 m centers and contained massive amounts of masonry carrying some of the structural load. The WTC was primarily a lightweight steel structure. Every other building that had a fire didn't collapse due to the fact it wasn't hit by a jet and it had a heavy steel design.The building didn't collapse from fire, it collapsed from being hit by jet which caused a loss of the structural integrity. With the weight of the building, the fact a building moves in the air, and the warping of the steel and transition to a weaker state the building collapsed.

There was never any evidence of it being steel. Only reports. I reported big foot in the forest once. Does it mean he exists?

The first responders probably heard structural plates, clips, and other miscellaneous steel parts buckling and snapping under pressure. It typically sounds like a howitzer. Very loud scary noise.

As the North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon.[6] The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between Floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between Floors 24 and 41. Buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6 of the World Trade Center complex and ST Nicholas Church was smashed by the falling north and south towers falling.

That freefall shit was debunked.

All of those "facts" have just been debunked by -Guido-. For the record, the company I used to work for made the steel for the WTC and surrounding buildings. When the collapse happened we had to send out blueprints copies to investigators. Any ironworker or steel fabricator will tell you the same thing.

By the way those vertical cuts in the beams, those pictures were taken after workers were cutting away dangerous debris with plasma cutters so they could try to pull bodies out of the rubble.

Also there was multiple instances of DNA evidence in the form of teeth and bones found in the surrounding area that matched passengers on that plane. Radar reports show the planes path.
 
ITT: People say a missile hit the pentagon but have never seen an actual missile hit a structure

>no concept of explosive ordinance attached to a fucking rocket
>no concept of the devastation it would actually cause to the Pentagon

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