ALTERNATIVE THEORIES V: The Build-a-bear Workshop

[23536]

Has anyone watched Rubicon? The series is so good! It really shows how a handful of wealthy men could control the world. It shows this plausibly. Unfortunately it was cancelled. Drama like this is not fit for American audiences. It's too meticulous, too gradual.

 

[capstone]

^ Assuming that we are already in the clutches of a secret cabal of ultra-rich industrialists who have controlled every facet of our day-to-day existence for hundreds (thousands? millions? billions????) of years, what good is "speaking up" going to do for the next generation? Escher chooses to live his life not worrying about the possibility of such an organization, you live your life in constant vigilance - at the end of the day, you both contribute the same amount of effective resistance.

Who said they control everything? They're not gods, yet... History has been a constant struggle between who has the most power, The Rich or the Individual. When The Rich have the most, they often kill as many of the Individuals as they can. They are securing their Power. When the Individual has more, what results is economic prosperity, and therefore a very good standard of living. Right now, who can honestly say that Individuals have more power than government and corporations? Honestly. As they are ever securing more Power, we, as a society and a civilization, lose our's. How is this in anyone's interests, unless your last name is Rockefeller? But at special times in history, when events coincide just right, enough people speaking up, enough to break the dam, results in something great. This is definitely a time when Something Great is possible. Why do you think there's 7 billion souls on this planet? Its where the party is. So why sit back and let tyranny run free, only making our transformation as a species more prolonged and painful, when we can very simply "pass this life test," if you will, again as a species, and get on with our evolution unencumbered by royalty, and finally be free to do whatever awesomeness we were created at the subatomic conscious level to do in the universe?

Its more than simply vigilance. Standing guard without protecting the castle does nothing. I, as I encourage others to do, badger local city halls as often as I can, about biweekly. I have gotten hexafluorosilicic acid removed from the water supplies of 2 towns, am working on only 1 other atm, because 6 workdays doesn't leave too much room to fuck with corrupt assholes. Personally, I have formed a currently 3,463 member group in my city dedicated to peaceful revolution. And those people to their credit have done so much. Why sit around when you can actively, in this 3rd dimensional hologram we call reality, personally metaphorically shit on tyranny directly in their luciferian chicken-necked power tripping coward faces, teach others to do so, watch everyone become leaders until there are no more followers anymore, and laugh my fucking ass off as we create the consensus hologram we'd like our earth suit to inhabit, and all generations to come?

I live for the future, not deluded by the now. War criminals like Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissenger aren't the only ones who can think in 150 year agendas.

There is no evidence to suggest that the flouride in our water (at the levels they are) causes any harm..

There is reason to study the matter further but that is as far as it goes.. well.. apart from the ethical *medication without knowledge* side of things..

Yes, there is:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491930/

That's just one. There is very much reason to not only study the matter further, but as well declassify everything the government has on the topic, subpoena corporate research, and ban the fertilizer and aluminum production byproduct toxic waste from what we drink and bathe in.

capstone, has there been any developments in the reptile thing?

Yes. Turns out they need to be skinned alive in surgical procedure, filmed while doing so, and upload the video showing the world, without a doubt, what the Rothschilds are. And, if they're just some completely insane psychopathic asshole humans, then we would just have one less banker luciferian in the world, who screamed very long, and very loud, right until the end of his dudfuck shitbag excuse of Life. I'm sure it would just pain the center of everyone's souls. That's what you call a Catch-69: everyone gets fucked.

Bunk! You'll never get Anderson Cooper out on the beach again!

Don't worry. I'm stocking up for the luau. Bet these fuckers would think twice about doing some corrupt shit if we started eating them...

Has anyone watched Rubicon? The series is so good! It really shows how a handful of wealthy men could control the world. It shows this plausibly. Unfortunately it was cancelled. Drama like this is not fit for American audiences. It's too meticulous, too gradual.

Am checking it out.

And ya'll have a Happy New world Order. You don't have to go home, but L2R's got free beer.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Have fun being a janitor for the Koch bros. or working a deep fryer in some McGlobal Conspiracy.

Despite the alleged presence of a world-controlling conspiracy, I manage to do quite nice for myself.

but organic pesticides linger around much less and there is less bioaccumulation.

You may want to google what organic pesticides are. For example, copper is organic, and is used, and tends to accumulate in the soil. That is far from the worst "organic" pesticide out there - a few of them have been banned due to various health reasons.

GMO's have not been studied well enough and many times are not the uper crops they are claimed to be.

Back in the 1960s, some researchers decided to breed a better potato. Nothing that we'd consider "GMO" was involved - they just crossbred varieties to develop a new strain. It was even introduced commercially, until it was pulled from the market due to high levels of a poisonous chemical the potato naturally produced (oopsie). This isn't a one-time occurrence. Many plants we eat produce some level of poisonous substance. The varieties we tend to cultivate have less of it (so we don't kill ourselves). But in the interest of breeding better crops (or even through conventional seed-saving), it's very possible to develop a variety that shouldn't be consumed by a human being. (Such crops end up being inadvertently bred due to chemicals that tend to harm humans are also chemicals that harm other creatures, hence such varieties often show superior resistance to insects and other pests.)

To make me worry about GMOs, you'd have to show how, in practice, GMO foods present a higher risk than non-GMO foods.

 

[23536]

To make me worry about GMOs, you'd have to show how, in practice, GMO foods present a higher risk than non-GMO foods.

Didn't congress just pass a law banning this type of research? Or was that gun research?

 

[MyFinalRest]

Despite the alleged presence of a world-controlling conspiracy, I manage to do quite nice for myself.

dawg, you was unemployed for more than half of last year...

You may want to google what organic pesticides are. For example, copper is organic, and is used, and tends to accumulate in the soil. That is far from the worst "organic" pesticide out there - a few of them have been banned due to various health reasons.

But on a whole, there are some great options out there for organics. Copper's not a good one for sure, but you are cherry picking out the good ones. Do you work for Monsanto?

To make me worry about GMOs, you'd have to show how, in practice, GMO foods present a higher risk than non-GMO foods.

That's what a study is for...to find out. Until then, I'm fine with traditional methods that were fairly successful for most of human history. GMO's can also cause genetic contamination to non-GMO species by adding strange genetics to the future lineages of plants that were accidently pollinated. Wouldn't want to find out something bad about GMO's after widespread contamination.

 

[superelephant]

To make me worry about GMOs, you'd have to show how, in practice, GMO foods present a higher risk than non-GMO foods.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22101424

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22331240

^ the focus of this one is on inhalation, but buccal cells are probably exposed if it happens to accumulate in the crops as it's managed to in groundwater.

And everything I eat is pesticide free.

edit: unless I'm eating out or for some other reason disregarding health for convenience.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

dawg, you was unemployed for more than half of last year...

Nah, only for the summer, since I quit my last job. And it was more like funemployment, y'know what I mean?

Found a new job within 6 weeks of starting a job search.

But on a whole, there are some great options out there for organics. Copper's not a good one for sure, but you are cherry picking out the good ones. Do you work for Monsanto?

Nope.

That's what a study is for...to find out. Until then, I'm fine with traditional methods that were fairly successful for most of human history.

Depends on how you define "traditional" and "successful".

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22101424

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22331240

^ the focus of this one is on inhalation, but buccal cells are probably exposed if it happens to accumulate in the crops as it's managed to in groundwater.

That's a herbicide, not a GMO food.

I don't disagree with the idea that some herbicides and pesticides are harmful.

But if you want to have fun looking up the side effects of herbicides and pesticides, try the "organic" ones as well. Rotenone is an organic pesticide. Feeding large quantities of it to rats will induce brain damage. It ended up getting banned for a number of years, but it's back now.

 

[rickolasnice]

What do people think of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-HqHSkYG-Y

If it's true.. good on him (i think)

 

[rickolasnice]

Pesticides (or maybe monsanto) are killing honey bees.. threatening the low end of the food chain dramatically.. This could ultimately fuck up crop production leaving millions starving..

Thoughts?

Why do the rich ruling elite have huge seed banks of un-modified crops?

Any truth behind the GMO crops causing a lot of people to turn infertile in 3 generations?

(Don't have a problem with the last one if it's true. The world is overpopulated and genocide, imo, is not an option. Mass infertility is. I'm all for it.. What's the alternative? Watch the population grow out of control so the planet can no longer support the human race? People fighting over scraps of food? Forests being completely destroyed? The global temperature rising to a dangerous level? Pollution levels rising, killing off people early.. It make sense to stop people procreating. The world can not survive at the rate of increase in global population)

There should be a lot tighter global controls over the damage people are doing to the forests and oceans.. As it is the view is so short sighted the planet will be completely fucked in no time.

Rapists and paedophiles should be medically tested on before being killed.. Some murders too (depending on the murder situation)..

Oh yeah and kill the ruling elite. Eliminate the banking system. Interest should not exist.

Fuck capitalism.

 

[MyFinalRest]

Nah, only for the summer, since I quit my last job. And it was more like funemployment, y'know what I mean?

Found a new job within 6 weeks of starting a job search.

Yeah..Yeah...I know. Fuck everybody didn't have a huge savings account so they could earn FUNemployment and fuck everybody who didn't find this great full-time salary job with benefits within 6 weeks of our job search. It must be because we didn't try hard enough or didn't say the right things on our resumes - that's the Grand American Suckadick thing to say. With 22% real unemplyment and an additional 30% underemployment, we're all GURANTEED WINNERS if we just think positive and try right?

Being unemployed has it's perks, but it often means living like Henry David Thoreau in his fucking bean shack.

Depends on how you define "traditional" and "successful".

I could argue that advances in machinery allow an excess quanitity of food to be grown and advanced irrigation can mitigate drought consitions. GMO's were not some sort of Agricultural Revolution.

 

[23536]

Pesticides (or maybe monsanto) are killing honey bees.. threatening the low end of the food chain dramatically.. This could ultimately fuck up crop production leaving millions starving..

Thoughts?

I actually think this issue deserves its own thread.

Honey Bees Are Dying Putting America At Risk Of A Food Disaster

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/06/honey-bees-dying-food-disaster_n_3225599.html?ir=Business

 

[superelephant]

That's a herbicide, not a GMO food.

I don't disagree with the idea that some herbicides and pesticides are harmful.

But if you want to have fun looking up the side effects of herbicides and pesticides, try the "organic" ones as well. Rotenone is an organic pesticide. Feeding large quantities of it to rats will induce brain damage. It ended up getting banned for a number of years, but it's back now.

I thought I'd be able to re find this page that discusses how the majority of GMO's submitted are for resistance to glyphosate. oh well...

 

[MyFinalRest]

No, it's not natural to make this sort of hand gesture unless you are a human tuning fork for Satan.

And no, don't hand me that bullshit that it means "I love you" cause nobody uses that gesture to say I love you. I highly doubt you'll be throwin' up the horns at yo mamma this mothers' day to let her know just how much you love her.

 

[MyFinalRest]

I thought I'd be able to re find this page that discusses how the majority of GMO's submitted are for resistance to glyphosate. oh well...

You mean the RoundUpReady® varieties? They are genetically modified to be resistant to Glyphosate herbicide so entire fields can be soaked down and only the "weeds" die. Beats having to hire a fucking illegal to pick 'em out for $4 an hour! But I doubt the cost savings are substantial.

Just plug RoundUpReady® into your favorite search engine and you will find many of these GMO products for sale.

Some crops have been genetically engineered to be resistant to it (i.e. Roundup Ready, also created by Monsanto Company). Such crops allow farmers to use glyphosate as a post-emergence herbicide against both broadleaf and cereal weeds, but the development of similar resistance in some weed species is emerging as a costly problem. Soy was the first Roundup Ready crop.

This kind of crop molestation is not necessary. Weeds can be picked by hand and it provides work and safer food to people. Escher's argument is imbecilic. He's blown this load on us before about the rotenone, and when rotenone is handled in a safe manner, it's not that bad. It breaks down in air exposure in about 6 days.

Rotenone was continuously applied over a period of five weeks, mixed with DMSO and PEG to enhance tissue penetration, and injected into the jugular vein.[19] The study does not directly suggest rotenone exposure is responsible for PD in humans, but is consistent with the belief that chronic exposure to environmental toxins increases the likelihood of the disease.[20

Trust me, superelephant, you are right. Lots of manmade pesticides take months or years to degrade into harmless compounds. Take DDT for example, even it's metabolites are toxic and take years to degrade! Rather would have used rotenone wouldn't you think than that shit? Rotenone is naturally found in plants such as the jicama, which when prepared properly is an edible tuber. To get the full effect of the rote...you pretty much gotta shoot it into your jugular on a regular basis.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Trust me, superelephant, you are right. Lots of manmade pesticides take months or years to degrade into harmless compounds. Take DDT for example, even it's metabolites are toxic and take years to degrade! Rather would have used rotenone wouldn't you think than that shit? Rotenone is naturally found in plants such as the jicama, which when prepared properly is an edible tuber. To get the full effect of the rote...you pretty much gotta shoot it into your jugular on a regular basis.

When properly prepared, lutefisk is an edible food.

I still don't think you want to be eating lye.

 

[Bardeaux]

No, it's not natural to make this sort of hand gesture unless you are a human tuning fork for Satan.

I have my suspicions that today's world leaders are really ozzy osbourne incognito.

I haven't seen any evidence to suggest otherwise.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

No, it's not natural to make this sort of hand gesture unless you are a human tuning fork for Satan.

And no, don't hand me that bullshit that it means "I love you" cause nobody uses that gesture to say I love you. I highly doubt you'll be throwin' up the horns at yo mamma this mothers' day to let her know just how much you love her.

The sign that Hillary is making means "I love you" in sign language. The sign Michelle is making is sort of like but not exactly like a sign used by many Italian people and other Latin people from various Mediterranean countries use to ward off bad luck or as a way to flip someone off and say that their husband/wife is unfaithful. Look up the term "Cornuto e contento" in Italian or "Cornudo y contento" in Spanish. Or perhaps I am saying too much? Either way despite what heavy metal musicians and non-Italian/non-Spanish or non-Latin people think it has nothing to do with Satan and it doesn't mean the person is a Satanist/devil/demon worshiper. Italians and other Latin people, we talk with our hands. The signs also have nothing to do with secret societies like the Masons, etc. Apparently a Texas university football team also uses this sign since their team is represented by a cow's skull with horns.

Il bue che dice cornuto all'asino

 

[MyFinalRest]

The sign that Hillary is making means "I love you" in sign language.

Does da bitch think we all deaf or something? Like those roaring crowds of dipshits know anything about sign language...

The sign Michelle is making is sort of like but not exactly like a sign used by many Italian people and other Latin people from various Mediterranean countries use to ward off bad luck or as a way to flip someone off and say that their husband/wife is unfaithful.

I always thought she looked Mediterrainian. not. She does look some sort of demon, and these asswipes are fucking demon worshipping scum.

 

[capstone]

M' thinks Hillary needs to be hung for crimes against humanity.

But that's just an opinion.

Love your corporations, sluts.