ALTERNATIVE THEORIES V: The Build-a-bear Workshop
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I was raised believing that there is an invisible world of creatures that influence human decisions.
I find it's impossible for me to unbelieve such things, especially when contrary evidence cannot be presented.
And belief in invisible worlds is not a priori pathological. The DSM-IV even exempts such belief from psychiatric diagnoses.
i have no issue with spirituality and other concepts of extra dimensions and the like. identifying the voices in your head as the cliche set of characters from a relatively modern man made creation like religion is another matter altogether. ninae's beligerent grip on these delusions are not being helped by any semblance of reinforcement from us. anyone paying any attention in p&s can see from a mile away she is attaching herself to all sorts of drug induced obsessions in order to either fill some void or avoid something else.
healing takes far more than a few days of sobriety. until then, it's best not to encourage more harm, imo.
healing takes far more than a few days of sobriety. until then, it's best not to encourage more harm, imo.
I can't really see what I've done to deserve such a hateful and disrespectful tone, but I'm guessing it's not that personal and more of a way you tend to interact with people you dislike. I wouldn't dream of talking to anyone like that, no matter what they said, and don't see why having different views on things need to lead to personal attacks and such strong negative feelings.
Besides, that's not what debate should be about. Even if you disagree you should still be able to respect each other and can have something to learn from each other. And bearing long-standing grudges against someone you only know from a message board just because some things they say rub you the wrong way is just beyond me.
Experiencing the presence of Christ and a form of communication with him is also not seen by most as a pathological condition or something that has to be induced by drug-related delusions. It's something millions of people have described over the ages and one of the most common spiritual experiences to have. And something that is very much available to all of us when we really want it and make a sincere effort.
I just spent one and a half hours talking to my local priest about it and he had no problems understanding what I was talking about as he had shared in and seen many have the same experience. At no point did he indicate he thought I was mad or had my mind wrecked by drugs or seem concerned about me. I mentioned to him that some will just think you're mad if you talk about Jesus like that and he just said "That is also one way of seeing it". So it's possible to be more tolerant, even if we don't share that world-view ourselves.
But please stop making claims about me there's no way for you of knowing are true. The only "drugs" I touch these days are benzos and Kratom, so for sure there are many here in a much worse situation than me drug-wise, and I've been practically sober for months. I've just had some accidents experimenting with some legal highs for the past year. Like some strong stimulants and MXE which led to dangerous overdoses, as I only had experience with downers, and lately some problems with benzo withdrawals after using them for 10 years without getting addicted.
But so what? It's no worse than what others have done around here and my own business. I thought this was a place you can share your experiences and fuck-ups without getting judged, as many of us are kind of in the same boat, but maybe that is just for someone who are in your good books? I realise you will perceive this post as extremely hostile, or of the same attitude that you take to me, but believe it or not, that is not the case. I've never had anything against you and have no idea how you've come up with the idea we're supposed to be some kind of sworn enemies.
All of this has been so unnecessary, anyway. All I did was explain my view on something when someone asked me, as clearly and in as much detail as I could. I don't want to expand upon it any more, as it's already too long, and should be clear enough for anyone interested.
Besides, that's not what debate should be about. Even if you disagree you should still be able to respect each other and can have something to learn from each other. And bearing long-standing grudges against someone you only know from a message board just because some things they say rub you the wrong way is just beyond me.
Experiencing the presence of Christ and a form of communication with him is also not seen by most as a pathological condition or something that has to be induced by drug-related delusions. It's something millions of people have described over the ages and one of the most common spiritual experiences to have. And something that is very much available to all of us when we really want it and make a sincere effort.
I just spent one and a half hours talking to my local priest about it and he had no problems understanding what I was talking about as he had shared in and seen many have the same experience. At no point did he indicate he thought I was mad or had my mind wrecked by drugs or seem concerned about me. I mentioned to him that some will just think you're mad if you talk about Jesus like that and he just said "That is also one way of seeing it". So it's possible to be more tolerant, even if we don't share that world-view ourselves.
But please stop making claims about me there's no way for you of knowing are true. The only "drugs" I touch these days are benzos and Kratom, so for sure there are many here in a much worse situation than me drug-wise, and I've been practically sober for months. I've just had some accidents experimenting with some legal highs for the past year. Like some strong stimulants and MXE which led to dangerous overdoses, as I only had experience with downers, and lately some problems with benzo withdrawals after using them for 10 years without getting addicted.
But so what? It's no worse than what others have done around here and my own business. I thought this was a place you can share your experiences and fuck-ups without getting judged, as many of us are kind of in the same boat, but maybe that is just for someone who are in your good books? I realise you will perceive this post as extremely hostile, or of the same attitude that you take to me, but believe it or not, that is not the case. I've never had anything against you and have no idea how you've come up with the idea we're supposed to be some kind of sworn enemies.
All of this has been so unnecessary, anyway. All I did was explain my view on something when someone asked me, as clearly and in as much detail as I could. I don't want to expand upon it any more, as it's already too long, and should be clear enough for anyone interested.
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bloodshed344
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Yes, they are. If you look at my "conspiracies" which have factual sources, then you realize they are much more real than your... ramblings. If you remain unconvinced, just check the sources. It would be a better use of your thoughts than what you have been describing.
Edit: Haha, my mind remains too open to have these kind of spiritual revelations from Christ. Maybe if I damaged my brain on benzos or SSRIs or etc. over the years it would become weak enough to be prone to such fairytales. Hell, at that state I'd probably believe those nigerian bankers' emails, too. People with dementia can be very weak-willed.
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Well, that is your view, and that is fine. But I can't really see the connection between someone having a personal experience of Christ and madness/brain damage or the logic there.
Maybe it can be seen as a fun argument to use for something you're against, but there's no evidence to suggest this has been the case for many. On the contrary, some of the most brilliant minds have reported the same with much greater detail and conviction than me, but I guess that has passed you by. I'm just an aspirant in this area and have only had glimpses of something that has been much more real and life-changing for many.
Of course, this has also been one of the things the offical Christian church has traditionally denied, and a way of trying to limit us. Or that it's impossible for a human being to have a personal relationship with Christ without going through the church. But despite of that many have discovered otherwise. I just want to encourage people that it's possible for them to have a living relationship with God or Christ despite how much they're ridiculed or sought to be limited in this world.
http://lightworkers.org/channeling/188093/chapter-fourteen-new-scriptures-written-sanandajesus
Maybe it can be seen as a fun argument to use for something you're against, but there's no evidence to suggest this has been the case for many. On the contrary, some of the most brilliant minds have reported the same with much greater detail and conviction than me, but I guess that has passed you by. I'm just an aspirant in this area and have only had glimpses of something that has been much more real and life-changing for many.
Of course, this has also been one of the things the offical Christian church has traditionally denied, and a way of trying to limit us. Or that it's impossible for a human being to have a personal relationship with Christ without going through the church. But despite of that many have discovered otherwise. I just want to encourage people that it's possible for them to have a living relationship with God or Christ despite how much they're ridiculed or sought to be limited in this world.
http://lightworkers.org/channeling/188093/chapter-fourteen-new-scriptures-written-sanandajesus
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bloodshed344
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Plenty of brilliant people are weak-willed and not self-aware. It's a shame.
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The world is growing colder as we slide deeper into the technocratic state. With the devaluation of currency coupled with inflation, the grand collapse designed to happen will have seemingly few solutions, except the ones being predicatively programmed through the dieing mass media currently. Our "entertainment" is no more than a revelation of the method; as those who run our society tell us what they plan to do to us, as a species, they laugh all the way to the deep underground military bunker banks while we eat ourselves collectively alive.
The plan for a Great Purge began over a millenia ago. The royal lineages, and more importantly the bloodline of priesthood families controlling them, have always desired a manageable population. Just enough to be slaves, but not too many people to threaten their everlasting dominion and rule. War was devised as the best way to cull populations, but the problem therein is you can only have as many wars as a system is large enough to support it. No matter how much money you create out of nothing, to kill everyone off, you have to have, and maintain, hard infrastructure.
Which brings us to the point we are at now. The infrastructure for our technological feudalistic global enslavement is almost perfected. The beta tests running the gambit have been run with mind controlled shootings, geoengineering, the poisoning of mass sustenance, bio weaponized warfare, and too many others to list.
The plan for a Great Purge began over a millenia ago. The royal lineages, and more importantly the bloodline of priesthood families controlling them, have always desired a manageable population. Just enough to be slaves, but not too many people to threaten their everlasting dominion and rule. War was devised as the best way to cull populations, but the problem therein is you can only have as many wars as a system is large enough to support it. No matter how much money you create out of nothing, to kill everyone off, you have to have, and maintain, hard infrastructure.
Which brings us to the point we are at now. The infrastructure for our technological feudalistic global enslavement is almost perfected. The beta tests running the gambit have been run with mind controlled shootings, geoengineering, the poisoning of mass sustenance, bio weaponized warfare, and too many others to list.
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^^ You had me right up until "chemtrails" 8)
so, it turns out jfk's headshot was done by a secret service agent in the following car and it was an accident. interesting.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts...agent-accidentally-shoot-jfk/article15198269/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts...agent-accidentally-shoot-jfk/article15198269/
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Also, "hungover" is not a word. Hangover is, but hung over must be 2 words.
The headline got it wrong anyway. The doco specifically said the guy who made the error was not out drinking with the rest of the ss the night before. He was only six months into the service and had charge of the assault rifle (despite his unfamiliarity of it) because all the more experienced guys were fatigued from overwork and drinks.
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^^ Interesting.
I'd like to read more about this.
I'd like to read more about this.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zacf4fwiCOM
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
http://www.examiner.com/article/wea...and-geo-engineering-what-is-happening-the-sky
8)
Oh, not that I actually believe that they're making us braindead, but yes, they do exist. But they're not "trails" and they don't look like contrails.
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That was to prove their existence. Whether they have a harmful effect on the mind is something I do not know. I posted it originally as a half-joke, but then went on to explain that it has some basis in reality.
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Day 1- The Singularity has occurred and its been 16 hours since computers all over the world became self aware. Within the first hour after the royals uploaded their consciousness into digital form, computers everywhere were infected and began networking with each other. By the time mankind knew what was happening it was too late. The Elite, the richest families of our planet, had shed their humanity, and hence saw no need for its further existence. Their Essences sitting comfortably in orbiting server farms began hitting humanity with everything that it had ever created to destroy itself. 6,780,000,000 people, roughly 95% of the total global population, were exterminated in 6 hours. And the roundup begins.....
Day 2- They've been planning this for a long time. The means and the infrastructure for a technocratic feudalism were put into place over the last half century. We passed the event horizon of this genocide when governments began building autonomous mechanized payload systems, which so many called "drones." The richest of the rich controlled the military-industrial complex, and used it to build their dream: post-humanist immortality. Kings alike have always wanted to exterminate humanity, but were still so themselves; it wasn't until they shed their humanity that they felt justified with their consciences in culling the human herd. By all estimates, the population has been reduced to 200,000,000 globally. I don't know whether to be thankful or not.
Day 3- Hour 68 of Post-Humanist Occupied Earth: what's left of the cities is being dismantled for raw materials. The fires of the extermination haven't even died down, but the machines are still sifting through it. They didn't waste any time, we only now noticed it. Late last night, the ground began rumbling with a dull vibration and hasn't stopped since. They're mining, everywhere, all at once. The planet is being stripped of any resource available, while on flatlands the post-humanists are building staging areas for massive warships to travel into deep space. The Earth is nothing but a launching station into the eternity of godhood to them. They're taking all they can and simply leaving, hoping they get us all in the process. Currently, we estimate only 120,000,000 people are left; they're hunting us down for sport at this point. If they did this here, what do they have planned to do beyond the stars?
Day 4- What a disaster. The remnants of the US and Chinese militaries decided to ally themselves in an all out nuclear hail mary strike on the orbiting post-humanists. The few tactical weapons they did have that wasn't networked, and therefore immune to the initial extinction event, were reprogrammed remotely after they were launched to hit us right back, where it hurt the most. The post-humanists knew where humanity regrouped, and waited until we gave them exactly what they needed to take the rest of us out. 2 of their ships have already been completed; one is in orbit now scorching every part of the earth, while the other has been sighted from astronomical reports to be towing asteroids our way. There were millions of us yesterday. Millions. Globally, from very sketchy estimates, only 986,000 humans are left. We see their plan now. Before they leave the planet forever, the post-humanists are removing the one threat to their existence: Us. And they're going to destroy the Earth to achieve this.
Have a happy New World Order.
Day 2- They've been planning this for a long time. The means and the infrastructure for a technocratic feudalism were put into place over the last half century. We passed the event horizon of this genocide when governments began building autonomous mechanized payload systems, which so many called "drones." The richest of the rich controlled the military-industrial complex, and used it to build their dream: post-humanist immortality. Kings alike have always wanted to exterminate humanity, but were still so themselves; it wasn't until they shed their humanity that they felt justified with their consciences in culling the human herd. By all estimates, the population has been reduced to 200,000,000 globally. I don't know whether to be thankful or not.
Day 3- Hour 68 of Post-Humanist Occupied Earth: what's left of the cities is being dismantled for raw materials. The fires of the extermination haven't even died down, but the machines are still sifting through it. They didn't waste any time, we only now noticed it. Late last night, the ground began rumbling with a dull vibration and hasn't stopped since. They're mining, everywhere, all at once. The planet is being stripped of any resource available, while on flatlands the post-humanists are building staging areas for massive warships to travel into deep space. The Earth is nothing but a launching station into the eternity of godhood to them. They're taking all they can and simply leaving, hoping they get us all in the process. Currently, we estimate only 120,000,000 people are left; they're hunting us down for sport at this point. If they did this here, what do they have planned to do beyond the stars?
Day 4- What a disaster. The remnants of the US and Chinese militaries decided to ally themselves in an all out nuclear hail mary strike on the orbiting post-humanists. The few tactical weapons they did have that wasn't networked, and therefore immune to the initial extinction event, were reprogrammed remotely after they were launched to hit us right back, where it hurt the most. The post-humanists knew where humanity regrouped, and waited until we gave them exactly what they needed to take the rest of us out. 2 of their ships have already been completed; one is in orbit now scorching every part of the earth, while the other has been sighted from astronomical reports to be towing asteroids our way. There were millions of us yesterday. Millions. Globally, from very sketchy estimates, only 986,000 humans are left. We see their plan now. Before they leave the planet forever, the post-humanists are removing the one threat to their existence: Us. And they're going to destroy the Earth to achieve this.
Have a happy New World Order.