Almost got arrested

[jammy_wankz]

This is a long read, but everyone starts off small, and then it gets out of control...

Rewind my life 10 years ago....

I was a good kid throughout half my life. When I was in high school, I never touched any sort of drugs. I did good in school, played a lot of sports, and didn't associate with the bad people. One time I found a bag of weed on the bathroom floor, it seems some idiot upper classman had dropped it. I picked it up and told my brother's friends about it, since they were all into weed and other stuff (they started earlier in life).

They made me smoke it, but I never got high, I didn't know how to smoke properly, which is a good thing! Then in my sophomore year of high school, I was on the football team, totally underweight and shouldn't have been playing that sport. I got my kidney ruptured 2 weeks before the end of the season - I almost made it all the way through uninjured, but I didn't. In the hospital I was in extreme pain. The doctors prescribed me percocet. It was a life saver, but at the same time that's when I developed feelings for a certain drug. I didn't know pain killers were addictive at the time, it was just a secret to myself. I told my mom that they "felt good", and were the greatest things ever, so she hid them from me. A year later I found the bottle on the upper most shelf, pushed all the way back. I finished the prescription by myself, for fun.

Fast forward to college, I started smoking weed, and this time I got high. I did it for a while, did pain killers rarely, but if I came across them, I'd do them.

I was a big pothead for seven years, but that was all I did. I went to the gym regularly, got big, in shape and all, and just smoked weed after a hard workout session. It was good! Until I got asthma from smoking so much weed. I replaced weed with another drug... that was... opiates.

I met a few friends through work, and some of them hooked me up with oxycotin. I bought a lot while at work... then met other dealers through friends of friends. This is when it got bad.

I lost my job last year of September 09', got depressed about many family issues unresolved for so long, and also my mid life crisis kinda crept up on me. I never had established any long term relationship with a significant other, I only completed a two year associates degree, and I was now unemployed. I did tons of oxy to escape these feelings. I started off with a quarter OC30 for a few months everyday, then I went through just one day of withdraw - not bad at all. I thought that was it. I got back on them, my tolerance shot up and now I was doing 2 to 3 OC-30's a day. I did this from January 2010 to July 2010. Every day.

So how did I almost get arrested?

On my last day of picking up, my dealer told me to meet him in a bank parking lot during his lunch break. I was driving there when a freight train stopped me at a crossing, it was a mile long. After 5 minutes, it passed, and I continued on my way to the bank. When I got to the bank, there were cars blocking the parking lot - a suburban with tinted windows and a chevy malibu. I realized my dealer and his first buyer were getting arrested by a bunch of plain clothed police officers! I FUCKING FREAKED OUT. I backed up my car and cut the wheel too soon, and ran over the curb! I booked in withdrawl because I ran out. Then I went home, and took a suboxone that I had in an emergency stash.

This experience made me rethink everything I've done, and how I got here. I used to be a clean, good person. Now I lost all my muscle weight from the gym, I'm skinny, and everyone calls me skinny. It sucks. I'm so depressed and trying to get my life back together. I can't even remember what it was like to be a clean kid in highschool anymore - that was 10 years ago! Withdraw makes your muscles ache and cramp so bad that I can't even think about going back to the gym now... I took plenty of tylenol and advils and they don't even work! If it weren't for that train, I would have made it there first, and then the DEA or who the fuck ever would have arrested me and my dealer instead! I got SOO lucky I don't even know what to say. 5 days of withdraw sucked because I ran out of suboxone. I called a friend I hadn't spoke with in months and he hooked me up with a bag of H. He said just do one line, just to stop WD'ing. Well I got him back into Opiates and we started snorting lines everyday for a week. Now, we have tons of suboxone, he's away at a wedding until tomorrow. I want to take this opportunity to get off all opiates. I can't believe I even did Heroin! This is ridiculous!

Right now I feel fine, the aching has stopped due to suboxone working. But in the meantime I have to change who I associate with, and I need to get back to the gym, I'm starting from square 1 again. It sucks man... I was real depressed about life issues and I only made it worse! However I didn't get arrested so I'm already living a good life, and I try to put that into perspective. No jail = freedom and I only have to deal with myself and not the law!

Has anyone else almost had a close call with the law, and used that experience to get off opiates?

 

[junctionalfunkie]

God, I could type all night about shit I almost got arrested for. I've gotten away w/ so much shit, it's insane.

Stop now. You can do a self-administered 21-day taper w/ just 1 8 mg Suboxone or 2 at most. If you stretch it beyond 3 weeks, it gets a lot harder to finally stop.

Good luck!

 

[jammy_wankz]

I only have 4 mg of suboxone. I'm not sure if its enough, however its been almost 3 weeks since I touched a blue pill of oxy. And to be honest, Oxycotin is a lot more potent than street heroin, and I think it should be easier to get off of.

I only did 2 bags of H at a time, I forced myself not to buy anymore. And most of that H was just used to feel normal, not really high, just to taper off from withdraw symptoms. However if I keep it up, you'll never really get through withdraw.

4mg of suboxone left, and I'll only take it if I feel like I have to. Hopefully my body has adjusted to much lower doses of opiates and the withdraw is a lot less severe to the point that I can actually function in the morning, as I used to do oxy first thing of the day, a HORRIBLE way to get started.

In my state, there are tons of oxycotin busts this year, the DEA is really cracking down on it. In March, they took down an oxycotin ring that was trafficing 4000 pills A WEEK! And I got word from a friend who knew those people telling me that the kid who got busted has uncovered a ring thats even bigger! How scary...

I always told myself that in order to stop, something serious has to happen... either you're completely broke, or your dealer is busted. Well, I was right about that...

I knew something was up because a couple months prior to my dealer's arrest, a possible detective had called one of my friend's MOMS and told her that her son was buying pills from (this kid's name) and that she should be "really concerned" about him. So its kind of pure luck that I wasn't involved w/ the cops at all, its possible that they were tracking this kid for a while, during the time that I was picking up too.

So the scary thing is, is that on that last day, the cops, or the DEA... whoever.. they were waiting for my dealer, and the first buyer to pick up from him so they could catch him in the act... the fact that it was a setup that I narrowly missed is what gets me the most. This wasn't some routine traffic stop, they were waiting for him, and me, or some other buyer to show up first, and the fact that they were all in plain clothes, using unmarked cars. So this was a bust they were waiting for, for a while or someone snitched him out and almost took me down with them!

 

[sid3]

^ yeah I agree. That's so true. Two weeks will cover the actual detox, so a few days past that and your good. In order for it to work the best, don't try and get in a "one more time since I'm quitting anyhow" that'll only screw it up.
You can find the taper schedules the detoxes use for a week/ten days, and also the twenty one day plan by going to the suboxone website. I've tried a few different methods. Hands down, the one method that worked best for me (and a few other people I know), that I stumbled across on another forum was to take a large dose during the last four days. The reason it works so well is due to the long halflife and the fact that it'll take over a week for the sub to slowly leave your system, for us, the wds were all but non exsistent, except for the sleepless nights that follows any method of stopping opiates. Anyhow, your pysched that you got held up by that long train as it sounds like you would have been cuffed and stuffed for sure otherwise. I'd take it as a sign too. Good luck with you sub taper.

 

[artaxerxes]

The universe works in mysterious ways. I think it's great that you've taken this good luck and transformed it into action. I had a similar experience with a DUI (well, I did get arrested, but I didn't hurt anyone but myself so I consider it a *very* lucky break.) It made me re-examine my relationship with alcohol and stress and what I viewed to be fucked up in my life and I made some big permanent behavioral changes.

So I just wanted to congratulate you and offer you positive thoughts for the completion of a successful detox. You definitely have the right mind set to accomplish this and I feel strongly that 85% of the success of a detox depends on one's psychological state. Good luck and good on ya for making good choices!

 

[jammy_wankz]

The thing is that I've already been arrested for Pot possession back in 2003. And that experience was shitty enough, being taken in cuffs and searched, then the court date. I was able to be granted a Conditional Discharge, if you're not familiar with this term, its a first offense, get off free type of thing.

Of course getting caught buying oxy is considered a second offense of some CDS, and I don't think I'd be getting a Conditional again, even after 7 years.

I took literally a tiny amount of sub today, like 1mg! And thats all I needed! I know tomorrow I might wake up in WD again, so I'll take a small amount and try to get back to the gym, as shitty as my body looks. But you gotta start somewhere.

I also started telling friends of what I was doing, friends I kept oxycontin a secret about. I usually would never tell certain friends that I was doing these drugs cause they'd chew me out, but I called one and I was like "Listen... I fucked up bad about something... just understand that I was going through hard times in life, and I took the wrong path". And they totally understood and didn't judge me in any bad ways. So I am able to reconnect with missed connections so they will try to help me out by keeping me busy with something.

 

[junctionalfunkie]

Good luck! 4mg may be all you need. Try 1mg tomorrow, too.. then half your dose every 2-3 days until 21 days are up. I believe I was taking .125 mg daily at the end.

I hope you can do the same. You might want to relocate from your using friends for a while, too.

 

[calmAnimal]

bro first off good luck with w/ quitting the oxy, its prob the hardest thing ive done and im only clean for 18 days.
i had have a similar story to yours. i was a good kid, then smoked weed at end of high school, then alot in college, then broke my wrist playing rugby, then got perscribed vicodin. and it was all down hill from there, went from vikes to percs to blues to oxy80s to dope. i wass shooting dope the second time i tried it. something i swore id never do. its crazy, just get out now, im trying my hardest too. ive got arrested recently twice in a two week period because of these fucking drugs. and had to spend a week county jail each time till my parents came up wit the bail money (i thank god everyday that i they still love me enuff to want to help me) im trying to get completely away from the drugs and everyone related to them. i used to think they were the best thing ever till they took over my life. now i know and i never want to go back.

second, something very similar is happening in my area. the prosecuitors office is going nuts, theyve made 20+ arrest that i know of, many of them are from the sale to an undercover police officer( if your in union county don sell to anyone claiming to be a bouncer or a fighter with a tribal tat)

 

[jammy_wankz]

^^ Yeah dude, first it was Operation Oxymoron, and I knew a few guys who I bought from that got it from "them". They got busted and I was somewhat concerned about my guys and how long this would really last. I checked the news every once in a while and there were numerous arrests every week with some guy who had 100 or so amount of pills on them. That's a lot to get caught with!!! Does anyone know what the sentence is if you're caught with a bottle of at least 100 blues? It was only a matter of time before my dealer got caught, I feel for him, he was helping out everyone, but in the end the wrong person caught wind of his business and quick action was taken

Wow I would also never imagine how bad it would be going to jail! Did you withdraw in jail as well? I know when a lot of dealers get arrested, they go into WD, and I'm not sure if the police use that against them to spit out the names of other dealers! How cruel!

Third, I just woke up and its 11am, I feel fine, no WD at all, and I hope my body stays this way. I don't even have muscle aches, except my liver is hurting a bit from all the advil, tylenol, motrins that I was taking all day yesterday.


I would like to thank those who let me know what detox regimines there are, and I would like to thank those who had the patience to read my entire post. I don't even know which detox plan I followed? The last time I did a whole blue pill was July 6th, I ran out and only had 2mg suboxone, and 5mg zanax to help me sleep through the worst initial withdrawl. I can't even tell you how painful it was, even under 2mg of zanax, I still woke up in the middle of the night in extreme withdraw, I did my last bit of suboxone and popped 2 more mg of zanax, I wasn't even sure if that was safe and if I'd wake up the next day or not! Well luckily I "woke up" and I realized that was a dangerous thing to do, and I lived another day to tell you guys this story. The next 4 days my body was still in pain, it wasn't the worst, but it hurt really bad and I had nothing left at all and had to bear with it. On the 5th day of WD, I did a bag of H (July 14th), it restored my normality, but then for a bit I started snorting a couple bags a day, and realized that if I chased the dragon again, I'd go through the same shit eventually. I did a small amount of H from the 14th of July, to the 23rd. This 1.5 week phase was just adjusting my body to lower doses of opiates, cause I was going crazy if I didn't, please understand I was doing multiple pills of OC-30 everyday this whole year and half of last year so far so my body got really used to it. I also tried smoking weed in that first phase of major withdrawl, and it had no effect in numbing the pain. I even started cigarettes again, a habit I kicked 5 years ago. The thing about opiates is that it takes another drug just to get off that drug.

Sometimes people OD on various drugs, like oxy, zanax, soma, at the same time while drinking. Luckily this wasn't me, I don't know whats going through the minds of people who do that, maybe it was to overcome withdrawl and they totally f'd up. This is why I reloaded on suboxone, my friend went through hell and back to get those pills, but he made it without getting in trouble, since we obtained the pills illegally, but we're using them as directed.

I am real lucky that when I choose to do opiates at a time like this, there is such a drug called suboxone, since this drug didn't exist not too long ago. Its such a life saver you don't even know, the people who invented this drug are GENIUSES! It is safer than methodone, yet you can't OD on suboxone, and it won't get you high so there's little potential for abuse. Also I heard that rehab does not work, I think that if I went, I'd meet a bunch of sleeze bags, and meet more drug connections there. The only thing that's gonna make you stay clean is a close run in with the law!

 

[Dr.Genome]

I would never do any hard drugs in America, and would even be super careful with "soft" ones.

Your penalties over there are seriously harsh, here in Australia it's more focused on getting the person help and rehabilitated, not throwing them in some dungeon knowing they will come out with a PhD in crime.

There's no 2 ways about it, you either get off this stuff, or spend the rest of your God-given life in an opiate stupor with nothing to show for yourself and almost certainly a criminal record.

You have gotten to King Heroin and now it's time to escape relativedly intact while you can.

Suboxone is a great medication for dependency, try to get on a program and make sure you get the tablets with the naloxone in them so you can't cheat yourself and chip oxy or heroin on the side.

With suboxone you can lead a very normal life without the dangers that these other drugs pose.

And don't worry about what you look like or how buff you are, in the end all that is meaningless. It is better that you be true to yourself and respect your life, nurture it, and be able to follow your dreams without chemical hand-cuffs on.

You are either going to be posting on here in a few months that you have an out-of-control addiction, are shooting up dope, have lost anything you have ever cared for and meant anything to you, facing criminal charges, so depressed and withdrawing that you want to kill youself OR that you have overcome the addiction, doing well at work, possibly looking at going back and studying mature-aged on something you love and have never felt better.

The option is yours. Just always remember, out of the billions of sperm your father ever produced it happened to be you that was born, are you going to throw away this miracle that is your life, or embrace it and reach TRUE happiness?

 

[Georgie25]

Keep it up bro...as a daily IV heroin drug user for almost 4 years (been clean on subs for 8+ months currently) and having to cop in the ghetto in the worst parts of philadelphia off of street corners just to be able to get to work or do anything else that day...it is a miracle that I was not once arrested during this time or at all in my drug using career (7+ years). i was smart enough to realize if you dressed homeless and parked outside the hot spots and walked in to cop it was a better chance at not getting caught..the whole scene is shitty and i dont plan to go back.

 

[jammy_wankz]

Oh man all day yesterday and all night I was feeling fine! Then all of a sudden I felt withdrawl creep back up to me. My stomach hurt after taking a nasty shit (cause you get the runs and all from WD), my muscles started to ache and I just rolled around in bed in pain. I could barely get up and get my suboxone stash. Well I finally managed to get the energy to stand up and suck on a small chunk under the tongue and it made me feel a lot better, I woke up this morning and had to take another in the afternoon. I almost picked up the phone to get some H, and I was really really craving it too. But you know what the suboxone was closer to me, and I had to go to Newark to pickup that shit with a friend, in front of crackhouses. It was the worst experience one time picking up in Newark... I only went there once with a friend and a kid was sitting in the back seat who shoots up... I couldn't believe I actually met someone who shoots up... it was like accepting something new. No disrespect... I have never shot up , I am afraid of needles.

Well this is day 3 of being completely clean, no cheating and all. I still have a long road ahead of me, and I still have some suboxone left so I should be able to make it out alive.

And 7 years of not getting arrested is damn good!

Dr. Genome -> I will definitely be back to report about my status.

 

[agram]

I had a pretty odd encounter with the law... Due to some physical ailments, I was so dizzy after an arguement which became physical with this wankfist of a flatmate kicking a bathroom door onto my female friend, another flatmate at the time. Landlord came and did fuck all, but this dribblesock knew that I occasionally smoked a bit of pot. So, immediately he called an ambo, but I was too delerious to explain my health issues with them. He opened my door for them, and I had a whole stash of illegals. RCs everywhere, GBL everywhere, you name it. Also plenty of legal highs, but mostly just thinkgs like Kratom. None of those dodgy pills. This was before the 'drone ban, and I had plenty of baggies of Methylone also. I had to explain to the police what most of it was, and the legal status.

Everything but coke, smack, speed and LSD, basically. The RCs were named, and carefully stored. The ambos left when I started getting less confused but both the rectumsplasher flatmate and the ambos called the cops. So, I guess I thought fuck it. No point in hiding it, I was fucked no matter what. I basically just helped the cops search my mess of a room. I even explained (feeling calm, but a bit hopeless and in that 'given up' mindframe) what most were, including the legal status, effects, everything. I guess I was a bit uninhibited because of benzo use, and some GBL still in my system.

They took all aside from the benzos, of which I had many more (and many more types) than prescription boxes and bottles which I always kept, but was no longer being prescribed. I was never and never will deal, I just like collecting. Odd habbit of mine, even if I'll never touch them.

After about two or three months thinking I'd be arrested and thrown in was a fine for seventy quid for possesion of a class B drug. Guess the GBL, as I had doctors letters saying that under no circumstances should I be deprived of Diazepam (the only benzo prescription I had).

The fine was £70.

Nothing else. What I had in there could have ammounted to a good few years in gaol and a whopper of a fine. But I was polite, curteous, and always answered (most) questions truthfully. Actually, come to think of it, I was sipping on a premixed bottle of gatorade or something with some GBL mixed in with it...

No great loss though. I probably never would have used them anyway.

So that's my 'almost got arrested story'.

 

[dawnalla]

How interesting

This story of your life was very interesting! Thanks for sharing. Aren't you worried about your finances considering you lost your job? Have you ever considered going to a doctor and getting a legal script for Suboxone? Just a thought, it would be alot safer than trying to score in those crappy neighborhoods. Good Luck to you

 

[Coolio]

Good luck staying clean. It doesn't sound like opioid use could be a healthy aspect of your lifestyle.

 

[jammy_wankz]

My finances are totally fucked up because of this shit. I used to use all cash, I never had a credit card. Where here I am applying for a credit card cause I need some extra cash to get by now. Thats how bad it got Well actually its a good thing that I didn't have this credit card during the peak of my oxy usage, cause then I would have had some serious debt from all the cash advances LOL

Anyways I went to a friends house to watching something on PPV Boxing this weekend, he had a few vicodins and I took a few cause my back still hurts for some reason. Like most of this month my back would just hurt for a long time, tylenol and advil wouldn't have much of an effect. It really sucks and I feel I have no energy. The hydrocodone/vicodins aren't as strong as oxy, but its still using an opiate. But I used some to see how my body would react to it too, I know my tolerance sure as hell dropped, one 10 mg hydro pill helped make me feel a bit better. So right now I'm all out, I only told my friend I'd pick up 4 but he gave me 6, I used 6 across 3 days and I just used it to taper a bit more, plus my back is totally fucked up I can barely get around to get things done.

The first week being clean is hard cause of the backpain especially, so the last time I used some vicodins was yesterday morning and I don't feel withdraw, but just muscle pain. I also smoked some weed and it got me buzzed, but doesn't do much for my backpain.

 

[jammy_wankz]

Can anyone explain this nasty back pain I'm experiencing? I do not feel withdraw, no restless leg syndrome, no fevers or anything like that, but my lower back is just aching like a mother fucker, I had to pickup more vicodins to cope with it. Its almost totally unbearable! I know its not the best solution, but I took 3 Advils and they did nothing to help w/ the backpain.

I also got a big bottle of Fiji water, they say that water with adjusted pH levels help alleviate back problems and does other good things for your body. I'm trying to find alternatives out there to treat backpain, so someone help me out.

One of my friends also said that I look like I gained some weight back, my face and cheek bones used to be sticking out, now he said that they look like they gained their mass back and got fat again, and my appetite also has been up this week. So I know I am on my way to being clean, its just that you can't stop opiates cold turkey cause my back took a beating during withdraw, all the spasms must have really pulled a muscle back there or something and the advils and tylenols aren't working at all.